Stacov Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 So finally got my new escort home fixed all the wiring and what not. To my surprise it wont start its been modified cam etc.. the crackshalf turns over but nothing else cam wont turn dizzy doesnt turn and u cant even turn it by hand it that tight. I know this engine came out of a working car. So it was going and i find it hard someone would spend a days work putting a engine in the car doing all the mods to make it fit and rewiring the whole thing with all the wanked up guages and what not u can see where hes put all new gaskets and cambelt and know it was fucked to make quick cash. heh im thinking something is seized thats worst case scenerio but also something like timing might be completely wrong or cambelt way to tight or they touched something not really sure, Ive contacted the guy i brought it off he sold it for his friend. So hes trying to find out what hes touch in it. The guy who sold it for his friend brought the engine in the first place for his mk3 cortina also told me he spend big money when he brought it. Then sold it to his friend then he was going to buy it back but i got it before him lol. so yeah anyone got any ideas what could be wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Is the cambelt actually on it? cambelt tensioner too loose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 Is the cambelt actually on it? cambelt tensioner too loose? hmm good question we were thinking tensioner way to tight or too loose could cause it u can see the belt sliping off abit but its really tight on there tho we arent to sure how to loosen the tensioner on it so we can try reset it i hope its something simple like that causing it.. but yeah keep them ideas coming because im hopeing the engine isnt fucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 ok got the cambelt off dizzy and bottom pulley moves only thing that wont move now is the camshaft hmmm might be seized? Might try the tappets setting as that may be way to tight and are holding the camshaft in the one place? sounds abit far fetched but im desperate to get it working haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamezuu Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Try turning the camshaft with a spanner on the pulley nut, spray some crc in the bearings first that may free it up. You may need to take the head off and take the camshaft out and ream the bearings out a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 ok finally got the cam moving again lots of crc a block of wood/hammer and a big socket must of been the bearing seized. Now the joy of spending hours setting the cambelt / timing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 anyone know what that metal bar thing is on the right hand side of the cam? it seems if u loosen it u can move the cam really easy if u tighten it u cant move it at all anyone able to tell me what it is? and how tight it should be? im guessing hand tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamezuu Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Its the oil spray bar, how long are the bolts? they generally seem to be about 7 to 10mm long. They are only 10mm bolts so only tweak tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 Its the oil spray bar, how long are the bolts? they generally seem to be about 7 to 10mm long. They are only 10mm bolts so only tweak tight. well thats what i thought that they were oil spray bar but then i loosen the bolts and noticed the cam became easy to turn and if u made it tight tight u couldnt move the cam at all? so being a oil spray bar is shouldnt affect the movement of the cam? should i take the bolts out and check how long they are? its a 10mm spanner maybe someone put longer bolts in for unknown reasons? :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 ALSO This is real important how do i set the timing i know the pulleys and dizzy gotta be pointing at there little marks they have. But whats the fireing order what inlets has to be open etc..? try to research on the net only found this "camshaft, crankshaft and distributor timing marks (triangular arrows) with No 1 piston at TDC on its firing stroke" is that all or what? im not really sure just trying to find out all the info i can before i try and i dont want to kill the engine. cheers guys and girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blown4 Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 cant realy help much but to maybe try a repair manual,but a little advice for next time;take a cresent with u to check the next motor turns over b4 u buy;and when removing a timing belt that u may want to refit again,mark the pulleys and belt with a twink pen so u can set it up correctly(provided the last guy did to start with) just a little advice,hope u have some luck with ur new motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 yeah we forgot to mark it after we ripped off the cambelt we were like shit!!!! forgot to mark it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 28, 2005 Author Share Posted March 28, 2005 cambelt back on with timing set, it has bigger screws in the oil feed spray bar then it should. This was the reason why the cam wouldnt move and notice its got a broken screws in the middle been snaped off so the spray bar hasnt be working 100%!!! Got my mate whos a mechanic to do the timing and hes fixing the rest of it too. So i got lucky he wanting to help!!! will keep yas updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 Finally got her started and boy does she rev she loves it! cant wait intill i get her fully on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esky boi Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Sweet as boss, good on ya for getting it sorted . So does it pull hard? ...worth converting an esky to a 2.0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 30, 2005 Author Share Posted March 30, 2005 dunno yet only started it in the shed because i still gotta connect shit loads of crap up :/ but the main goal was to get the engine going!! but the way she revs / sounds she going to pull harder then a school kid lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted March 30, 2005 Author Share Posted March 30, 2005 engine specs that i know of cosworth cam dunno if it is but i say at least a fast road cam as u gotta idle it pretty high just for it to idle, flat top pistons, double valve springs, larger oil garleries, thats what i know off my head i didnt build the engine so cant be 100% what else is in their / been done but the guy spent 3-4 grand building it so i would say most things been done. things i added recon dizy,new leads/spark plugs, 40mm twin throat webber "off a v6 capri" and custom 2 and half" extractors ill make a new post when its a sunny day so i cant take lots of pics and put them up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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