Guest WESTCORT Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Was changing my regular 1300 dash to a dash with a tacho and odometer and i thought it wouldswap straight over but it doesnt it seems. it fits in fine but the wiring must be different becuase the fuel/temp guages dont go and i dont have any back lights, infact the only things that do go are the 5 little light up things for indicating battery oil and high beam. just wondering if anyone had similar problems and how they overcame it. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunk-rattlin Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 dude, escorta can hook you up. and the wires you have to get out of the clips are a bitch until you master them. use a pin and flick them up. pm escorta, he has primo wiring steps.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Yea you have to take out each wire from the loom and then re-order them. You will also need a new wire for the small loom to go to the -ve of the coil. I'll find out the order of the wires then I'll post them up here later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest escort_boy Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 maybe escorta u can make it a work shop article ?? do all the steps needed then post it in the workshop article section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 is it really worth all that trouble? the only difference is the tacho isn't it? why not just get a small one and mount it inconspiculously..... or you could always get a 10" monster tacho with a 4" shift light and hang it off your sun visor..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Ok here goes... The big 9 wire loom, hold it facing you (as if you were about to plug it in), and the colours go left to right: Black/White, Blue/Black, Brown, Blue/Green, Black/Yellow, Blue, Blue/White, Red/White, Black/Green The smaller 5 wire loom, hold it vertically facing you (again as if you were about to plug it in), and the colours are top to bottom: Grey/Yellow Black/Yellow (Here you will need to make a new wire that goes to the negative of the coil) Brown (No wire in the bottom space) Theres a trick to taking the wires out of the loom, slide a pin along the wire into the back of the loom, and theres a small tab that you need to push down, then just pull the wire out. Remember to bend the small tab back up before sliding the wire into the new location in the loom. Thats about it, worked for me and trunk so should work for you too. I dont think we really need a workshop article for this do we??? Its just basic stuff, and now its on the forum anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Ok here goes...The big 9 wire loom, hold it facing you (as if you were about to plug it in), and the colours go left to right: Black/White, Blue/Black, Brown, Blue/Green, Black/Yellow, Blue, Blue/White, Red/White, Black/Green The smaller 5 wire loom, hold it vertically facing you (again as if you were about to plug it in), and the colours are top to bottom: Grey/Yellow Black/Yellow (Here you will need to make a new wire that goes to the negative of the coil) Brown (No wire in the bottom space) Theres a trick to taking the wires out of the loom, slide a pin along the wire into the back of the loom, and theres a small tab that you need to push down, then just pull the wire out. Remember to bend the small tab back up before sliding the wire into the new location in the loom. Thats about it, worked for me and trunk so should work for you too. I dont think we really need a workshop article for this do we??? Its just basic stuff, and now its on the forum anyway ok i got the 9 wire sport loom it seems everything is connected but the rev counter doesnt work, could u tell me what the wires are like power earth etc.. ? its hard because the guy i got the car off redid the whole loom so its kinda hard to know where everything is / going to the right place and where abouts does the rev counter connect to negitive on the coil and where else? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WESTCORT Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 the tacho only needs a wire from the neg side of the coil directly to it. is your loom al lone colour or different to the wires in the guide above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 not sure ill get the colours tomorrow and post them up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 ok got my wire list same as yours here goes 5 wire loom from up to down Grey/yellow black/yellow Green *this is going to neg coil but doesnt work* might have to rewire that one Brown 9 wire loom goes from left to right Black/white Blue/black Brown Blue/green Black/yellow Blue Blue/white Red/white Black/green as u can see its the same i thinnk the green wire is the one might have a break in it and wont work when on neg coil ill have to redo it and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 hmm tryed a wire directly from where the green wire is connected straight to neg on coil and still no go got me stumped it should work!!! argh!!! might have to get a aftermarket tacho dont wanta tho and how u hook up these guage clusters fuel oil water battery ?? u need some sort of power going to these then the fuel wire to get the reading?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WESTCORT Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 did you swap the wires around and put them in the correct order as stated in the guide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Yea I'm not too sure aye I switched all my wires to that order and hey worked, I talked Trunk through it and it worked for him too. When in doubt, unplug all the wires and start from scratch Are you sure you have the "left to right" order correct? with the plug orientated as if you are about to plug it in? I've got all the original wire ordering written down if you need them just ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 hmm not sure aye might have to pull them all out and do what the guide says and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 i double check, i even triple checked and they are in the order as escort power wrote but still no go!!!! everything looks to be connected properly. so yeah i have no idea why its not working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WESTCORT Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 so whats not working? just the tacho? double check to make sure its connected to the neg side rather than positive? how have you wired up the coil wire? i didnt have a spare connector so i had to solder it to where it shud have been if i had another connector for the 5 wire plug.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 everything else on the dash works but the rev counter fuel/temp and yes its on neg side of the coil and its connected to the coil. By one of those coil plugs dont know there name but the wire going from the rev counter to coil has abit where u plug the coil neg plug into then another end that goes onto the coil. if u can understand that not too clear maybe i should take a pic but reason fuel/temp isnt working as they are not connected as i was going to connect them to the cluster guages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WESTCORT Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 well i cant think of anything else it could be.. how did you connect the coil wire to the tacho? through the 5 wire plug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacov Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 well i cant think of anything else it could be.. how did you connect the coil wire to the tacho? through the 5 wire plug? yup! unless the tacho itself is broken ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Rip the instrument cluster apart, get the tacho, and hard wire it in with fresh new wires, see if it works. Going from the original to the stock you have to add in an extra wire, and did you say the guy before you did this? I'd chuck a fresh new wire in there just to be sure its correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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