Unclejake Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 This is going to be a little hard to explain without photos - but a friend is trying to put a rear LSD out of a 90's Subaru into his 1972 Datsun 1600. We have the diff heads side by side and they are almost identical - should be easy. The Datsun half shafts are held into the Datsun diff head by a single bolt that fixes to a steel retaining disc (with a female thread for the aformentioned bolt) just inside the spider gears. The Subaru unit does not have these retaining discs so the half shafts would just fall out (the Datsun shafts are telescopic). We pulled apart the Subaru unit last night and fitted the Datsun retaining disc to one side of it real easy but to fit the Datsun retaining disc to the other side of the Subaru diff required getting the female splines out of the actual LSD nugget (the sealed cylindrical bit). I had 11 beers and could not work it out so I got taken home. How the heck do I get the spplines out of the LSD nugget (if that is what it is called) without rooting it? Ta muchly boes............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I haven't had a sube diff out for a while but don't they just have a ring around them the same as the other end that the inner cv goes onto? I've got one in pieces stashed away in the shed somewhere so shout out if you don't get it figured out. If you find some spare concave washers that the spider gears go against let me know cos I need some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Prob wont help you but most people just use custom cvs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 I have done a bit of interweb reading and it looks like we are attempting this conversion with the wrong Subaru LSD We have a viscous LSD and it looks like we need a clutch pack LSD and a slight modification to the half shafts. Should be easy! Cubastreet - I didn't notice the conical washers when I pressed out the planetary gear layshaft last night but I will have another look and they are yours if I can find them dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I have done a bit of interweb reading and it looks like we are attempting this conversion with the wrong Subaru LSDWe have a viscous LSD and it looks like we need a clutch pack LSD and a slight modification to the half shafts. Should be easy! Good info to know. One of those small things alot of the websites prob forget to mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Cubastreet - I didn't notice the conical washers when I pressed out the planetary gear layshaft last night but I will have another look and they are yours if I can find them dude. Bloody hell - what am I saying!? The diff head does not belong to me so I better not be giving bits away until I ask the owner (he should be good with it though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WESTCORT Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 chuck an article up in the tech section once you get it all sussed mate. depending on the width and cost of parts this could be a potential coversion for the eski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Datsun is independant rear. Wont work in escort without alot of fabrication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WESTCORT Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 gutted. assumed it to be a solid axle. there goes that plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Hilux is probably your best bet - but they are a bit wide I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 ^^^ correct. There were so many differant hilux diff widths and shit tho. If you get a skinny one and run FWD offset rims I do believe you may be within the gaurds. This is what im trying to do anyways. There was one out of the VERY VERY early hiluxs that is exactly the right width. It is however as rare as rocking horse shit. Link to hilux into escort info... http://www.oldschool.co.nz/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=9445 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 I used to have a Toyota Liteace truck. Tiny wee thing but it was a 4WD and used Surf/Hilux diff nuggets but had 14inch five stud wheels (same PCD as Falcon). The Litace came out in a van of course and there are zillions of them at Pick-A-Part so perhaps run a tape over one Westcort (this could all be in the link provided but I have not clicked it yet - I was just finking oot lawd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I dont think the liteace uses the same nugget. The hiace in theory does but I have a housing that was out of a hiace that my LSD nugget doesnt fit into. There are also multiple splines etc. If you can find an early 1970-1974 and SOME 1975 models Hilux then snatch it up. The diff is exactly the right width.... !!!!!!! and as far as I know fits the LSD nugget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Perhaps my Litace was different because it was a factory 4X4 flatbed. I only say they use the same nugget as the diff nugget in the rear of my one had "Surf" written on it in white pen - like the previous owner has replaced it with one from a wreckers. It could be that I am 92% full of shit - or possibly even more than 92%. Peace boes. Got to finish up some work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Haha funny shit. I could be full of shit too. Never played with the liteaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Was in the shed today so had a look. The stub axles just pull out, but they have a split ring around the end so they'll need a good thump. The washers I need are the ones behind the little planetary gears when you take them off. Don't think your mate would appreciate u giving them to me as the diff's no good without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 I think we are talking about different Subaru diff heads. The Viscous one we were working on loast Wednesday night did not have stub axles but it was the female spline we needed to remove. The clutch pack Subaru LSDs seem to have stub axles so that is the correct place for us to start with the datsun conversion (we have one now) There were no washers in the planetary gears (that I saw) in the V-LSD as I pulled it apart last week. Perhaps the washers are only fitted to the Clutch LSD? I will be down at the shed again on Wednesday night for light refreshments so will have a better look for you - The chances of my mate using the V-LSD are slim so if the washers show up you are probably going to get them............... not up to me of course but the owner is a good white trash bogan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 The one I've got's a vlsd with stub axles. I can't use it though as the washers are broken. Everything else seems fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclejake Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 Understood - perhaps there are three different variants? I will be in touch late Thursday if we can help out. Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draizuh Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 for those who dont know subaru and nissan use the same diffs. R180, R200. Used in skyrines, silvias, all sorts of crap, hence the using of them in a datsun If you need more help the boys on datsun.co.nz have done this a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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