Chrome_GT Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 1) if you have a Type 9 box, what oil do you use? I've been using duragear75/90. I am considering trying Auto trans fluid. Basically the gearchange has never been too great. Any thoughts? 2)Gearchange issues: While out last weekend, My gearchange became extremely difficult. Basically couldn't get into 1st, second just, others ok cos only while at speed. I did hear an unusual bang once when i clutched at the lights that night. I checked again today. If the motor isn't runnin I can get into gear. As soon as i start it up it just wont go in. Maybe clutch cable?-I thought maybe the bang was one of the strands snapping, this would make the inner cable longer and may put cable out of adjustment - but surely the pedal should fall back towards firewall slightly. If it did then it isn't noticeable. Clutch itself - not sure, hope not. Gearbox - it was a pretty quick transition from ok box to crap box. So i hope it isn't this. Anyone had similar problems. any suggestions? I'm going to check out cable now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 1) if you have a Type 9 box, what oil do you use?I've been using duragear75/90. I am considering trying Auto trans fluid. Basically the gearchange has never been too great. Any thoughts? 2)Gearchange issues: While out last weekend, My gearchange became extremely difficult. Basically couldn't get into 1st, second just, others ok cos only while at speed. I did hear an unusual bang once when i clutched at the lights that night. I checked again today. If the motor isn't runnin I can get into gear. As soon as i start it up it just wont go in. Maybe clutch cable?-I thought maybe the bang was one of the strands snapping, this would make the inner cable longer and may put cable out of adjustment - but surely the pedal should fall back towards firewall slightly. If it did then it isn't noticeable. Clutch itself - not sure, hope not. Gearbox - it was a pretty quick transition from ok box to crap box. So i hope it isn't this. Anyone had similar problems. any suggestions? I'm going to check out cable now. Don't run atf it in. will be far too thin, and isn't that greater lubricant. Try running slightly thinner oil, or perhaps a 15w40 diesel oil (small isuzus (rodeos, isuzu N series trucks etc) run engine oil. dunno why. but yuh, will be thinner. Then again, there's perhaps an inherent problem causing shift problems etc. does it get easier to shift when the box warms up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome_GT Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Shift easier when warmed up? well no noticeable change usually. But when i took it out this morning for a test run, it went into first earlier in the run. But once i got home, it wouldn't go in at all with engine running. So at the moment - worse when warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I had exactly the same problem in my escort, changed clutch and chucked a spare box with fresh oil in n it was sweet, id say ur clutch might not be aligned, when i took mine out the splined grooves in the centre of the clutch were ground down in one spot. Got the coin to change clutch plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Shift easier when warmed up?well no noticeable change usually. But when i took it out this morning for a test run, it went into first earlier in the run. But once i got home, it wouldn't go in at all with engine running. So at the moment - worse when warm. check adjustment of clutch have problems getting into reverse too? and box warmed up = some boxes are bitches to shift when they're cold. after a wee bit of driving they get easier, as the oil warms up/bearings etc etc.... yes, gearboxes do warm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 That what it was with mine, clutch was so used the adjustment was wound up as much as it could go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome_GT Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Thanks for your quick feedback. Just pulled the cable out. One of the six strands that make up the inner clutch cable had snapped. This would have made the inner cable stretch out meaning the clutch wasn't fuly disengaging. I could have corrected this by adjusting it out but it would fully snap pretty soon. It snapped because the housing in the firewall isn't quite alligned with the top of the pedal. Can't really do much about it but at least this cable lasted over 3 years. Next time I have the brake booster off 'might get some work done on the allignment. I can see a bit of rubbing going on at the inside end of the white plastic housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 As Cam was saying with some gearboxes being snappy and hard to get into gears when cold. The Type 9s are exactly that. I was thinking maybe there could be a type of oil that reduces that? Perhaps heats up faster or is there anyway of stopping/preventing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 slightly thinner oil should help, but yuh. too thin and it'll probably grauch/take forever to get into reverse after a long drive etc. my van's a cunt when it's cold, pug's not the easiest either (pug's runnig thicker opil than it ideally should) but I just put up with it, be gentle etc/double clutch or something, only tkaes 10min driving and they're slick as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burntrubber Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I would say its the pressure plate I have had it before. They dont release properly sometimes mine got so bad in my old sport I snapped the gear leaver. I changed just the preasure plate with a spare I had and was mint. A few years ago I put 80-90 in my Gemini and it was stiff. It was a new box so I chucked my old one back in and put the same oil in it was stiff again Someone suggested wrong oil so I read the manual and oh oops sae 40 is what its surposed to have. Anyway it was nowhere near as stiff as when my clutch was hadit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 whatever you do don't run different oils in a type9.. especially additives. It destroys the syncromesh seals etc. I had a big chat to a gearbox engineering outfit that said the common mistake with ford 5 speeds was running additives like gearup etc in them. However, I did hear of someone who claimed that they ran atf fluid in their box and it shifted really nice. I probably wouldn't gamble it. but hey! give it a go and tell us what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaMpylobacter Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 ATF is far too thin, fuck that I'd try an engine oil far before atf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome_GT Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 Yeah I've read alot about people using ATF with type 9's, especially in racing situations. But on another forum I use, everybody seems to say they've heard of it and been recommended it-but no ones actually done it. Here's a link to the other forum for you Capriers http://www.network54.com/Forum/67242/search In the meantime I've been using using Valvoline Duragear 75/90 GL5. It seems to be ok. Capri clutch cables aren't avail so I've bought a cortina mk4 one, QCC1010. It has the same ends etc but the inner cable is slightly longer. To make it work all i need to do is get the inner cable shortened approx 35 mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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