Popular Post kws Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 Many years ago, about 14 years or so, I bought a car off a friend so I could learn to drive and get myself to work. It cost me $400 with reg and wof, and was awesome. That car was a 1976 Morris Marina 1.8 SUPER. It was green ("Spanish Olive"), and it was damn near immaculate at the time. The only issue was that it drank about as much oil as it did petrol and the second gear synchro was slow. I thrashed that for a while, but eventually the Japanese bug bit and I sold it when I picked up a dirt cheap N/A BFMR Familia. I sold it to a young kid who wanted it to learn in like I did, but it was soon sold again and as far as I know its been sitting in a barn since. Rego on hold, but probably a pile of dust. Being the complete sicko that I am, despite owning many cars, and bringing a few other classic Brits back from the dead, I've always pined for another Marina. Hell, my Wife tried to buy my old Marina back a few years ago, but that fell on its face for various reasons. I figured if I can't get the old green machine back, the next best thing would be to keep an eye out for the ultimate version, the coupe. Coupes are rare. Well, Marinas, in general, are rare thanks to the (misguided) unpopularity of them, but coupes are just something you never see. Before I went and looked at a wrecked Twin Carb (TC) coupe in a field over Xmas, I hadn't seen one in person. The coupe in the field I ended up passing on because of its location (middle of nowhere; expensive to get a truck to pick it up), and the fact someone had pinched the plates and tags from it (probably to rebirth another Marina that had a dead rego) and it couldn't legally be put on the road again. If it's still available I might end up buying it for parts, we'll see. Anyway, back to the story at hand. The other day I had a PM from a fellow Old School forum member that knew I was looking for a coupe, letting me know there was one just listed on Facebook Marketplace. Sure enough, there it was. That's the one and only photo on the listing (and it's not a TC), but that didn't matter to me. I got in touch with the seller and within an hour of being listed, we had agreed to a sale and it was mine. The next day seller sent me more photos showing the current condition. The worst bit (that the seller knows of), the rust in the sill And the AUS spec OHC 1750cc E-Series single carb power house. As the story goes, the sellers dad has had the car for years, and the father and son started to restore the car to former glory. Unfortunately, the father passed away and the car has been in limbo since. The seller was happy to hear that I intend on returning the car to the road and undertaking a restoration of sorts. It may not go back to completely original, but I'm not going to chop it up and hot rod it. I have no doubt the car will be a hell of a lot of work and a lot of money. The first job is to even get it here, as it's currently across the Cook Strait in Blenheim and I'm in Wellington. Not far as the crow flies, but a large body of water that can only be crossed by plane or boat blocks it. A truck is arranged to pick it up at the end of next week, and then I'll get to see what the heck I've got myself into. This particular car is a little interesting just in the fact that's its an NZ Built, Aus spec car, meaning it gets the E-Series Over Head Cam engine, instead of the A or B series pushrod engines the UK cars have, but also has various bits of local content such as brakes, suspension and interior. Decoding the VIN it appears to be a Deluxe spec, with the 4 speed manual. The plan is to sell the TVR to make space and money, get the Marina going and stopping, and then cut out the rust. New sill panels are available off Trademe, so will replace the whole sill, and cut out any other rust I find. Once its solid, going and stopping, then its just a case of taking it for a WOF inspection to see where I'm at. What happens after that depends if I can get hold of the TC in the field. Oh, did I mention the rego is on hold? Well, it is, and its been off the road for almost 25 years. This will be the oldest save of any I've had before. The cool thing is that the rego is super optimistic... Yeah, its a "Sports Car", just like the TVR. I dont think anyone has called a Marina that before. I've started collecting things that might be important, such as an original BLMC workshop manual, in original Marina branded binder Ideally, I'd love to get this on the road, tidy up the interior, repaint the exterior (original paint, which I think is Bold As Brass yellow, or a different colour...?) and then rebuild and fit the twin carb engine from the field car to it. I need to have the car in my hot little hands first and see what it needs and what it's missing. I could be over my head in rust issues yet, who knows. We'll see soon enough. Discuss here 41 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted February 15, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2021 Well, in a shock turn of events this arrived today. Didn't even know it had been picked up until Brent messaged me saying he was a couple hours away from delivery. Wasn't expecting it until the end of the week. Once again Brent from Classic Towing is a legend. Laid the bed of the truck flat down my steep driveway and winched the car straight into the garage. Its going to be a TON of work, but it seems like a decent solid base to start with. Found the re-rego documents from 1995 in the car, and its been owned by the family since at least then. "Movers of fine automobiles" - Damn right 35 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted February 16, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2021 Here I was, Monday night, sitting watching a movie with my Wife when suddenly I get a text message... "I'll deliver the Morris off tonight about 9:30". A few days ahead of schedule, awesome! I wasn't expecting the car to be picked up until late this week, but with the potential for chaos due to the latest Covid19 level change and risk of the Ferry being booked out or cancelled, my job was pushed forward and here we are. Sure enough, a couple of hours of completely cool, calm and collected waiting... I hear a truck pull up and calmly walk outside to greet Brent. Of course it was pouring down with rain and pitch black, but that didn't matter. It was Marina time. "Movers Of Fine Automobiles" - Yup, not wrong there! One of the many good things about Brent is that he is very experienced and has the right gear. When I asked if he might be able to winch the car straight into the garage he barely flinched; of course he could. He backed the truck up to the drive And then just laid the whole deck down my steep driveway, meaning the car only had to be winched off the deck and then down about two meters of the drive before it was in the garage. So easy. Better than pushing it with flat tyres and no brakes. And then I got a first look at what I had. Brent scared me a little when he asked if there was no engine in it! Of course there was! it's just, small. Meet Alex, the 73 Morris Marina Coupe. We had a good chat about cars, and he had a look over the TVR we pushed off the truck 18 months ago, which attended its second British Car Day just the day before. After bidding Brent farewell, I had a poke around. The interior was full of bits that had been removed from the car, and the seats aren't bolted down. Unfortunately between the leaking windscreen seal and the window partly down, the interior was a bit wet and stinks of old wet stuff. The boot was tied down (as requested) as the boot lock is missing Overall it doesn't seem that bad. There is rust, and its a shame there is so much shitty primer over the existing paint, but it looks fixable. Of course, having the two Brits in the garage I had to take a photo. I'm aiming for the most "interesting" two-car garage in the neighbourhood. I think I win. I was going to leave it until the next day but curiosity got the better of me. What was in the boot? Goodies. That's what. More parts that had been removed from the car, the spare wheel, and a bunch of old spares like a carb, inlet/exhaust manifold, starter, and alternator. I then tucked the cars away for the night and dreamt of bashing Marinas around the back roads, like the good old days. The next day I got stuck into pulling the parts out and seeing what was in it, and what I'm missing. I also needed to get the parts in the footwell out of the water that was sitting in there. The good news is that most of the big stuff is there. All the wheel trims appear in good shape, and the air box, RH outer door handle and window winder can be reused. There were also a couple of strange items in there too, like this Lucas Electronic Ignition box of magic. I'd love to know more about it but nothing comes up on google. It has three wires on one side, and a toggle switch and led on the other. There was also this "HOT SPOT engine water heater" that plugs into mains. Obviously, its to preheat the coolant, but I haven't come across one of these in NZ before. It's generally not cold enough here for them, but they are common in the likes of Europe. I did find a curious pair of paving slabs under the driver's seat though. They aren't high enough to touch the seat, so they aren't "support", but now I'm concerned about what's under them. My wife thinks its a big spider. The boot has a whole bunch of treasure in it. Icecream containers of... stuff. Some of it has come off this car, like the badges, which all seem to be present and correct (too many if anything), but also a whole lot of random screws, bits of metal, plastic etc. I'm sure some of it will make sense. The big box in the boot was made of wood and had been carefully built to fit around the wheel arch. It's full of all the heavy stuff. Most of it is quite rusty, so probably useless, but I might be able to refurb some bits if needed. One thing I didn't expect to find was the two exterior mirrors. The reflective coating on one has failed, but the other doesn't seem too bad. Both need a good clean, but it would be awesome to refurbish and retain these mirrors. I'd love to know more about these mirrors if anyone has come across them before. The only marking is this on the back; DR. Having cleaned some of the muck out, and knowing that I wasn't going to be eaten by spiders, I jumped aboard, onto the wobbly unbolted seat, and plonked myself behind the wheel for the first time. The driving position is... interesting. As mentioned in the HubNut review of a MK1 Marina, the steering wheel isn't flat. It's centered in front of the driver, but the LH side is closer to the driver than the RH side. It's subtle, but noticeable. Â Â Just part of its charm. The clutch is seized solid, and the brake pedal goes to the floor, so there is some work to do there. The throttle is actuating the carb, but the pedal seems to sit low and has little travel. Once I was done with sitting and making brum brum noises I assessed what else was going on with the dash. The gear knob is in good condition, and the gearbox although a bit vague goes into all gears OK. No doubt there will be a bush I can replace. The cluster is partly disconnected and the center dash speaker is currently hiding behind it. The old gutter mount antenna is sitting on the dash. Like most, the dash plastics have aged and cracked. Other than the missing corners on the ash tray it's quite minor though. No factory fit radio here. The driver's door card is awol, so I'll need to source, or make, a new one. The passenger's side is a custom fibreboard job. The linkages have been bent from people trying to open the door, since the exterior handle has been removed. The RH door has quite a bit of play in the top hinge, so I'll need to weld in a tube to address that wear. Both little vent windows open and latch though, which is awesome. Can't wait to drive with these open. The top hinge on the RH side has a bit of play in it but seems secure. It'll probably vibrate in the wind or something. They need a damn good clean, but the gauges look good. 91,137 original KM. Note it is a KM speedo too, being NZ New and Aus spec. Unfortunately the longer I poked around, the worse it got. The front floors have had some creative patching with plates and rivets, and there are some holes showing in the driver's side, so both floors will have chunks cut out and new metal welded in. In the big scheme of things, thats easy to do. The harder to fix rust will be this little section in the B-Pillar on the LH side, which will require the window to be removed There is also rust under the bottom of the rear window, so that will need to be removed too (and the front windscreen needs a new seal, so I'll probably remove all the glass) The boot has its fair share of rust too, thanks to various leaks and traps. The bottom of both rear quarters are showing bubbling, as is the rear valance panel. Those will be a pain to fix, but the lip for the boot seal is probably the worst, I don't think there will be a lip once I remove the seal. The obvious rust is really the LH sill. Its the whole way along, so definitely a whole sill panel, but shouldn't be too bad to do, hopefully. I haven't had a poke around under the car yet, but from what I could see kneeling on the ground, it looks vaguely ok. Its got to be done, so wherever the rust is, it will be fixed. At the end of the day though, for a 48 year old car that's been off the road for almost half that, it's doing pretty well. Much better than it would be had it lived in the UK, no doubt. The last thing I did before packing up for the day and letting the car dry out, was to trial fit some of the badges and check I had them all. It appears I do, even if a couple of the holes have been filled. There should be another MARINA badge on the Lh side of the boot lid, but currently there is a just a large dent filled with cracking off bog, so I'll need to bash that back out first. Looking at the primer all over the car, I suspect it's painted straight over the yellow. Its also had another respray at some point, because there is a ton of yellow overspray, and things like brake lines in the engine bay have been painted. I'll want to clean all that paint off the various bits it shouldn't be on. Since the paint is a mess I suspect it will be going to bare metal at some point, or very close to it. I'm still in two minds if I paint it myself, or outsource it to someone with more skill than me (but also more cost). I'll see how I go once all the good metal has been glued in. This will be a slow project, initially. All my money is tied up in the TVR and Corolla, so the only progress here will be things that don't cost money. I do want to get the engine started soon, just to see what condition that's in, but I need to source an oil filter first. Oh, and if you're wondering about the name earlier, yes, the Marina is called Alex. We've been working on names for it since I bought it, but nothing really stuck. Alex comes from Alexandra, which according to the paperwork I found in the car, was the town the previous owner had the car re-registered in back in 1995. Unfortunately, the paperwork doesn't mention why the car was re-registered, but what I can tell is that it has done 1400km since it was re-registered back in 1995, and hasn't had a warrant inspection since. I've reached out to the seller to see if he knows the back story of why his dad re-registered it, and then it never got used again. Once again, a HUGE Thank You to Brent at Classic Towing. He never fails to impress. If you need a car moved anywhere in NZ, give him a bell. 16 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted February 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2021 Today has been the first real day of work on the Marina. I got some important prep work out of the way, and had a good look around under the car. The first task on the list for today was to remove what was left of the interior and give it a vacuum out. I had to wait for the muck to dry first, and now that it was nice and dry I donned my gloves and mask and went to work. The boot got completely stripped. The carpet was old house carpet and was rotting. Thankfully the metal under it is in good shape. Cleaning the boot also showed where the rust is. The worst rust in the rear guard is where this little strip (to support the spare wheel?) is attached. It's basically rusted along that seam. The other side is solid. With all the seats removed the whole interior got a good vacuum. So much grot. Cleaning the floors shows the repair panels that have been riveted in and then sealed around. There are about four patches on the passengers side alone, including one against the inner sill, which will need some work where it joins to the floor. It's all pretty straight forward stuff to fix from what I can see. I'll need to work out how to press some strengthening ribs into the new panels, but I have a press and a welder, so I'll make something. The RH side was no better, so that got a good clean too. I did find a lot of screws under the driver's seat, but no surprises under the paving slabs. The rear wasn't missed. There was quite a bit of old mouse poo here too. With most of my chances of catching Hantavirus sorted I got the car up on axle stands, which is where it will live for a while. This gave me my first real look at the underside. The good news is that its extensively undersealed, which seems to have saved it from too much underside rust. The bad news is that its cobweb city. Oh, and the rust that does exist. Like the LH half of the rear valance. The RH side is almost perfect The big Borg Warner diff. Need to source a LH bump stop, and probably shocks. The exhaust has seen better days. Will patch it to get through the WOF and then look at the condition of the rest of the system and whether to just replace from the muffler back, or replace the whole thing. One annoying thing is the driveshaft center bearing has collapsed, so I'll need to drop the shaft and replace that. Will also assess the Ujs and see if they need doing too. Removing the driveshaft will give me the chance to replace the clearly leaking rear seal on the gearbox too It's OK, the tyres are only flat on the bottom. Cob webs. Everywhere. I took a broom to them, and they resisted my attacks. Moving forward, we see the ancient Ryco Z83B filter. I ordered a replacement and picked up it this morning. There is a high probability this filter is from the 90s. I think the moisture on the bellhousing is gearbox oil leaking forward from sitting. Its that, or the rear main is leaking, but since the car hasnt been driven anywhere it would be hard for the oil from the rear main to spread like that instead of just leaking straight down. It's amusing how HUGE the bellhousing is, and how small the gearbox is. Around the front and I'm greeted by this thing. I worked out from the owners manual that its a "Hinged Kerb Guard". Well, it was seized solid in the sticky outty position. It made a lot more sense once I freed it up and folded it back where it should be. I suspect it got caught at one point, maybe moving the car off a trailer or something, and overextended forward. What it does, is protect the sump, which hangs way down under the car. This is a tall engine. This is directly behind the guard. Yes, that hose in the front is the fuel hose from the pump... Once freed up and folded back it looks like this. It has pins on either side that stop it from going further back. I'm not sure why they bothered to "hinge" it. The "hinge" is just that it can rotate on the two bolts that attach it. If it was to make servicing easier, it would've been just as easy to make it fixed in place and removable. I'll just tighten the bolts in the furthest back position. Next, I drained the engine oil and removed the old filter. The old oil stank and was the darkest black oil I have never seen. It was like draining treacle. While waiting for it to slowly drain, I removed all the old spark plugs. The 4th plug was damaged at some point and the top was stuck in the (also damaged) ignition lead. Luckily the OE Champion plugs cross over with NGK BP6ES, which oh hey, I happened to have on the shelf. I gapped them down the specified 0.6mm gap, but before fitting I used my awesome Castrol oil can to put a little oil into the cylinders to help the dry cylinder walls out a bit. And now the new plugs went in The oil was still draining, so I fit the replacement filter in the meantime. Because the engine hasn't run for about 10 years, I prefilled the filter before spinning it on. I don't normally, but this made sense to me. Next was to replace the old fuel hoses from the carb back to the tank. The hose that had been put on the car from the pump to filter was... odd. I don't even know if it was fuel hose. Looked like a small garden hose, and was "food quality". I replaced all the hose with 1/4" ID Gates and Codan hoses (depending on what was on hand at the time). All R6 rated, so not rated for EFI or Ethanol, but not an issue for me as its carb and I won't be running E10 in it. When I did the Mini fuel system I got a filter at the time but didn't have the space to fit it. I've had that filter on the shelf since, so its good to finally put it to use. As per the above photo, I took the top off the fuel bowl to see what was in there. There was a little bit of old perished fuel in the bottom but otherwise looked OK. This was cleaned out with a rag and brake cleaner. I removed the dashpot and piston to clean. The inside of the carb was filthy, so that got a good clean. The old oil was drained and new 20W60 poured in on refitting. I may play with this dashpot oil if it's too thick, which I think it might be. It's not all nicely polished, but its clean inside, and that's what matters. I'll look into a rebuild kit later and redo the whole carb. Now it was finally time to pour in 3 litres of Penrite's finest HPR30 mineral 20W60. This stuff is gold for old cars. Total capacity is 3.4L including filter. With the level checked, and between the marks, I moved onto the cooling system. I knew there was water in the expansion tank but appeared to be nothing in the radiator. I sucked out the old rusty water from the tank and cut the old hose off. I fit some of my spare rubbish J30 R9 hose from the radiator to overflow (all that hose is good for since its no good for 40+ PSI EFI). I removed the bottle and gave it a damn good cleaning with the garden hose. Lots of chunks came out, but the lower outlet was completely blocked. It took me shoving a screwdriver through the outlet to clear it. Now that I had free flow between the radiator and expansion tank, all that was left to do was fill the system and see where it all comes out again. One of my recent tool purchases came in handy for this. I've been wanting a coolant funnel for ages, but they're usually so expensive, but I scored this off Trademe for cheap, near new. It increases the head height of the coolant, making it easier to bleed, and has a tap to stop me making a mess when the funnel is still half full but the system is full. Almost immediately there was a leak as soon as the level reached the top radiator hose. This isn't an original hose; someone has cut and shut it with a steel pipe in the middle. It should be one big S-shaped hose. I turned the pipe over which revealed why it was leaking. Mmm, crusty. It was damp down one end. I decided to try the other recent tool purchase, a radiator pressure testing kit. Its second hand and a bit rugged, but it still works. This highlighted quite clearly where the pipe had rusted through The rest of the system handled 15psi happily, once I applied duct tape to the pipe. Even the radiator, despite having a bunch of missing fins and generally looking haggard, held pressure fine. I need to work out a way to pressure test the heater core too, since it's been bypassed and removed, but that may just involve hooking it back up to the car cooling system and pressurising it all again. With all that work done, there was nothing left to do but see if the engine actually turns over. I refitted the damaged/old leads just in case it wanted to fire. I have replacements on the way though. I borrowed the battery from the TVR Turned the key and got dash lights! The indicators also kinda worked, although they are flashing super spastically, probably due to the missing/blown bulbs in the rear and not being used for 25 years. No horn or headlights though. Next, I turned the key further, and sure enough, the engine reluctantly turned over. It was kinda like an old man (me) getting out of bed in the morning. Very slow and kinda "eh, do I have to?". Adding a jump pack made it turn a little faster but it quickly ran out of juice and even then "faster" was still slow. I need to get the car its own battery, but I'm also wondering about the engine grounds now as that is apparently a common reason for shitty slow cranking. I'll try again and see if we can get it fired up this weekend. To celebrate its uh, not starting, I gave the car its face back. The center painted section still needs to be repainted and fitted, but otherwise, the difference with just the grille surround is quite large. Makes the car look proper. It'll come off again to see why the headlights don't work and to fix some minor rust in the panel, but it can hang there for now. Damn, I've just noticed the bumper is on the piss too. Guess thats something else to fix. 21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted February 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2021 What more is there to say? It's not even the weekend yet and already the achievement is unlocked. I popped down to the garage this morning not so much to work on the car, but to test the theory that adding a ground to the starter might help. It didn't, but having the battery in the car again also allowed me to check clearance for the battery and order the Marina its own one. NS60SMF, the same as the TVR but with the terminals swapped. After cranking a few times the poor jump pack just couldn't keep up, so I resorted to hooking the Corolla up with jump leads and giving it a boost. This did help it crank a bit faster, but it didn't matter, it still wouldn't kick into life. I had the genius idea of checking the points in the distributor using a method I saw on Youtube at one point. Turn the ignition to ON, and then use a screwdriver to open and close the points. If they spark, it's good. If they don't, no good. Mine didn't spark. A small file was used to clean both sides of the points and sure enough, now I had a big healthy spark between the points. That might do it. The very first time I cranked it after cleaning the points, this happened. It coughed. It didn't start, but it coughed. You can tell because the start disengaged (as it does when these old engines cough or start). It was close. Some more Start Ya Bastard down its throat, and magic happened. It started. Off the road for 25 years, last started about 10 years ago. After a few more coughs and splutters, it finally started and ran. Not very well, but it idled. The throttle is zip-tied half open and the choke was wide open. I think it was running off fresh fuel as there is fuel in the float bowl now, so the fuel pump is working (despite the fuel filter looking empty). I drained the tank yesterday of its 8L or so of super old varnish smelling dinosaur juice and topped up with some fresh new 98 octane. It blew a whole bunch of junk out of the exhaust when it started. Big chunks of rust. I'm happy with that. It needs new leads, and probably a whole carb rebuild, but I know it runs and the oil pressure light even went out. It's a win. 24 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted February 19, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2021 After picking up the new battery, I couldn't help myself. It still cranks the engine fairly slowly, but after starting it a couple of times with Start Ya Bastard, it started to run on its own fuel. Not only that, but after a cough and splutter, it now runs as smooth as a modern engine. It's amazing. It even starts easily and runs with no choke. The oil pressure and charge lights are off, indicating good oil pressure and the alternator is even charging. I'm well chuffed. So much more work to be done, but knowing the engine seems to be in good shape is a huge boost to morale. 22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted February 20, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2021 One thing I love about buying old and neglected cars is getting all the electrics working again. The Marina is no different. Much like the Mini and the TVR there were a few things that weren't working. None of the lights work, the wiper motor is disconnected, the washer motor doesn't work and the horn is silent. Basically, anything that is electric, didn't work. Before jumping into the wiring I had to fix one thing thats been bugging me. The boot latch and lock. When the car arrived the boot was tied down with string because the boot lock had been removed and was missing. As it turned out, the boot lock was there, in bits, scattered throughout the boot. I found all the bits and using the workshop manual figured out how it all went together and damn, even the existing key works. I did a couple of test fits to make sure the lock was complete and would work, hoping I wouldn't permanently lock the boot closed. The actual latch assembly was completely seized and would not latch. Soaking it for a bit in CRC seems to have done the trick and it latches and unlatches nicely now. Digging through the icecream containers of stuff that came with the car turned up two of the three bolts that secure the latch, so I refitted it. And BAM, the boot lid shuts, and even opens again with the key. Flash. You only get that kinda luxury with the Deluxe. The lock action is simplicity in its self. The key barrel turns the plastic cam and the cam acts directly on the release tab on the latch, pushing it across and popping the lid. The cam is sprung to return the key to center when released. There is no internal release, so as the car came with a spare key for the locks, I've taken that off the keyring and located it somewhere safe, just in case. Now, back to the task at hand. Wiring. My first port of call was to look at the headlights and see if we had power going to them. I removed the grille surround and sealed beam headlight. Well yes, there was power there, but something wasn't right. There should be about 12.8V there.... Little bit of a voltage drop. Moving back inside, whilst checking the indicator/dip switch, I noticed this purple while hanging down, connected to nothing. It turns out this is for the horn. Well that will explain why it doesn't work. This is the same issue Tess had with her washer jets. The wire just flexes every time the stalk is moved and eventually snaps. After removing the steering wheel, disconnecting the wiring and removing the switch assembly I carefully disassembled it. Once you remove the metal plate, this is all the gubbins inside it. Be careful though, there are a couple of ping-fuckkits in here. The three arrows indicate the three items of interest. These are little plastic mushrooms resting on top of springs. Under the one on the right is a small metal bar. Don't loose these. Once you know where everything came from, gut it. This is where the wire should join to; that little scrappy bit of bare wire above the purple/black wire. To fix this you strip the broken wire back, knock the indicator stalk out of the white block, and refit the block back onto the spline of the stalk with the wire jammed in between the block and stalk. It's dumb. Some creativity (and abuse of cheap tools) was employed to knock the stalk out without damaging the block. DO NOT STRESS THE CIRCULAR EARS. I used a very fine punch to knock the stalk through Jam the wire in, line it up (the correct way around) and hammer the block carefully back into place. It all sounds too easy, doesn't it? Well yes, I just touched one of the ears after knocking it into place and the ear fell off, rendering the whole stalk useless. Not to worry, a broken stalk assembly from a Princess came with the car. The high beam wouldn't latch, so I couldn't use the whole assembly, but I could strip it and harvest it for parts to make one good from the two. It turns out despite being the same part number the two stalks are slightly different. They probably work the same, but the difference was enough for me to use the original Marina as the base for the repair. One of the changes though was to the exact issue the original stalk failed for; the wire now loops from the other side of the block and is supported when in place. BL obviously knew it was a problem. This is why this stalk wouldn't latch. The center part on this is where the latching is done, it was broken off this stalk. This is the Marina one for comparison After some more bashing with hammers I finally had a good stalk, now all I needed to do was to join the wires again I soldered the wires back together and fed it all through the base again. The base got a good clean and the contacts cleaned up with a fibreglass brush. To aid reassembly I rigged a box to support the assembly and keep it steady whilst I put the bits into the base Lots of dielectric grease was used during assembly, both to lubricate the movement and to keep everything in place. Don't forget to polish the bar that bridges the indicator terminals. I spun this up in a drill and used the fibreglass brush to polish it. Once reassembled, making sure everything stays in place, the high/low beam contacts got a clean and grease. These were really oxidised. Now I suddenly had front park lights, and a horn! What a solid toot it makes too. No headlights, tail lights or dash lights through. I noticed when the headlight switch was moved from park to the main beam the park lights would turn off. Something wasn't happy. I pulled the headlight switch out and disassembled it. This was very dirty. Lots of corrosion, old grease and even some serious pitting on the sliding plate. The contacts and sliding plate were thoroughly cleaned and polished with the fibreglass brush. You can see the pitting at the top of the sliding plate. I refitted the plate upside down with that wear at the bottom, meaning the contact points are on nice fresh solid metal now. Reconnecting the switch and now the headlights work. One of the sealed beam bulbs has a blown low beam so a temporary H4 was used to test. High beam worked too The action on the refurbished switches is lovely. A nice firm click. A+ would refurbish again. The taillights were a bit more of a pain. First I wanted to remove the trailer plug that had been screwed into the rear panel (ugh), so had to strip back a whole bunch of old insulation tape, which revealed to me that old mate Twist-N-Tape had been here. So many twisted wires and so much old sticky tape. Glad to see the plug gone though. It was an eyesore. I'll weld the holes up and refit the MORRIS badge in the center where it belongs. With that mess tidied up and a ground reconnected we had tail lights. Once I cleaned up the bulb holder, which was very rusty, I even had a number plate light. It amuses me that it's just a single, unprotected little bare bulb. Seems to do an OK job though. Unfortunately no real improvement on the indicators though. They still flash sporadically and the rear ones are very dim. I find it strange there are dual filament bulb holders fitted for the indicators in the rear though; standard fitment or a bodge? I think the flasher relay might be poked, so will replace that and see how we go from there. The interior light didn't miss out on the fun, I replaced the non-functioning bulb with a warm white LED. The light is literally crumbling away from age, but it still works when set to ON, but not on the DOOR setting. I'll look into that if I can find a good replacement light. In the meantime, the warm white LED looks nice and should reduce load. I reconditioned the dash light switch too. This was full of old crusty grease and corrosion. The sliding plate cleaned up well And then there was light. I even gave the dials a quick clean to make them pop. Both levels of dimness work. The high beam indicator works, but I may have to change to an LED bulb so I can actually see it. They look pretty good in the dark. I love the simplicity of a 70s British dashboard. None of the light pollution current cars have. Takes me back to driving the original Marina. The wipers and washer still don't work. I'm not sure if the wiper motor is good or not as even connecting it does nothing, so I'll try feeding some power into it and see if it comes to life or not. The washer motor is completely dead and feeding power into it does nothing. I suspect it probably rusted internally. The last job for the day was to fit the new ignition leads that arrived. These leads were bought as a kit that also suits Allegros, Maxis, MGBs, Minis and Land Rovers among other things. Almost anything British and 4 pot it seems. It fit perfectly. Crusty old leads Nice new leads Red is sporty. Makes the engine faster. Speaking of, I had to check that the leads were doing their job, so started and ran the car up for a bit. I connected the throttle cable again, so now I have control over revs from inside the car, but sadly the cable is stuffed and binds so will need a new one. The first cold start of the day wasn't bad either. Start on full choke, a few turns and it kicks into life. Easy. I ran the car long enough to see the temp gauge start to climb. This indicates that the gauge and sender are both working, which is good. I also noticed looking at the photos that the fuel level changes between ignition on and off, so it seems like the fuel sender might be working too. I'll need more fuel to test that. The engine keeps on running happily. I'm really pleased with it. After the initial issues trying to start up, it seems to be freeing up and starts easier now. Progress is going to slow for a bit now. I've come to a point where either lots of time, money or both will be needed, so will wait until the TVR is moved on before I get stuck in proper. 18 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted February 22, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 Oh no, I just doomed myself. I've been looking at the primer on all the panels and thinking "hmm, it look really thin and appears to just be over the original paint". Well, I touched a scrap of wet and dry 800 grit to one bit and the primer basically wiped off So for the next 5 mins I continued on with said little scrap of 800 grit.... Theres certainly some mint Bold As Brass under there. There are also some small stone chips, and some thin filler. I think the PO used filler to plug the stone chips and then just rattle-canned primer over the lot. There is a white layer in there too, not sure what that is. Its Paint - Filler - White - Primer. Now I'm kinda committed to sanding the lot off 15 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted March 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2021 Just for my own records, Clutch master is poked, but is a Triumph Spitfire part. Slave needs a new seal but otherwise looks OK, is a Girlock item. Aussies were smart and used a circlip to retain the slave, so once the circlip is removed the whole lot comes out toward the front of the car. Ive been slowly sanding the primer off the paint. The paint is average under the primer (its been sanded back before primer) but should clean up OK until I can afford to paint the car. Found a big slab of bog in the front RH guard though. Rusty under it so need to pull it all off and see why it was there. 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted March 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2021 Progress on the Marina has been slow, but things are still happening in the background when funds and motivation allow. One such thing to happen was the purchase of a three-dial cluster during a recent trip to Horopito Motors (Smash Palace). They had a few clusters there in various states of physical distress, so I picked the best one they had. Unfortunately, it's from a Super so has a clock and not a tacho as I want, but since the housing is the same between them, all I need to do to fit a tacho is find the tacho unit and swap it out. The main thing is that all the mounting points are intact, and there are no cracks in the housing. I couldn't help a quick test fit to see how it looks. Much more upmarket than the two dial cluster. Now, being so dark in the rooms of Horopito, I didn't notice some damage to the cluster which needs fixing. The flexible PCB on the back has been torn and damaged the copper trace in the bottom corner And someone had previously repaired another damaged section of copper trace by wrapping it around some bare strands of wire It's not the end of the world though. I do have a good soldering station and I'm not bad at soldering. You just need to be damn careful not to melt the PCB and cause more damage. Interestingly, here is what I mean about being able to swap the tacho in. On the left in this photo is the clock module. it's attached to the other two dials by two screws, meaning it can be removed separately. I needed to strip the whole thing down as I wanted to remove the PCB to fix it, and also swap in my two dial cluster in place of this one as the speedo is for a 6 cylinder car and has a different ratio (not to mention the mileage is wrong, and the scale goes up to a crazy 200kph and doesn't have the MPH sub-scale). This allows me to keep my mileage correct. The first job is to remove the voltage stabiliser, along with its spade terminals. The stabiliser gently pries off the board, and the terminals are held in with a screw each and you can press them out from the front of the housing with your fingers Remove all the bulb holders, and the other various screws (including the four big brass ones) and start removing the little white push pins. I found it easiest to gently slide a flat blade screwdriver under the PCB (between the PCB and white housing) and under the head of the pin and then wiggle it. Take care not to poke or tear the PCB. Something like a butter knife might work well for this. With all the pins removed the PCB should just lift off the housing. Next, I removed the four screws holding the housing to the fascia and then five screws remove the fascia from the main frame of the surround Everything got a thorough clean as it was all filthy. The fascia woodgrain appears to be some sort of very thin veneer, maybe even a sticker. It had torn slightly in one corner and it's clearly faded. Still very useable though. To clean the fascia I removed all the silver rings. These are held on with a twist lock. Just take care when pushing the tabs through the holes not to catch the veneer and tear it. Now it was time to move onto the main dials. You can see the two main dials are just the standard unit from the two dial cluster and cannot be separated. Two screws remove the clock It was so filthy I couldn't leave it. I tried cleaning just the outside of the glass but found the inside was dirty too, so removed the glass. It is held on with three spring tabs. You can either remove the tabs as they are a press-fit onto the white housing, or just pull back the two on the left with one hand and then lift the glass out with the other. Take care not to touch the black surface inside the gauge as they will fingerprint badly. Don't damage the paper seal behind the glass either. The adjuster for the time has a tiny little slot screw at the end of it, and when you undo that the knob will come free (note for reassembly, the knob is keyed with a flat on one side) After a thorough clean I was about to store the donor dials away when I decided to swap the paper gaskets between those and my good dials as they had better seals and the warped seals could be seen when the dials were installed in the fascia. This spiralled into swapping a few other things. After removing the dirty glass from the donor unit I noticed something. The donor says ALT and OIL on the warning lights, something mine doesn't have! I love unmarked warning lights as much as the next person, but I was feeling fancy, so had to find out if I could swap the lenses over. As it turns out, it's easy to do. The lenses are attached to that black ring, which is only held on with the spring clips. Swapped, with cleaned glass and donor seal Obviously I couldn't leave the speedo looking like that, so I removed and cleaned the glass and swapped a better gasket onto it Now I could attach the clock to my refurbished two dial cluster I cleaned and refitted the rings. They're slightly tarnished but still useable. Now I had to fix the PCB. The best fix I could do was to bypass the damaged traces with a wire, soldered to the nearest big copper pad. First I cleaned the area I was going to solder on the PCB with a fibreglass brush to get any tarnishing or coating off the copper, and then tinned the PCB and end of the wire (yes, I stripped the wire way too far back. It'll be OK. The others are shorter). And then soldered the wire to the tinned copper pad. I tried to have the wire as close to the edge and as flat as possible so that it wouldn't interfere with the screw that goes through the PCB. That wire is quite long and I wanted to make sure it'd clear the housing. Since its installed back on the housing now I'll secure the wire with tape. You can just see the other repair below it. I snipped the previous "repair" and soldered directly to the pad and to the top of the plug contact. I reassembled it, and tested. It was all going so well until I tried to install an LED into the high beam indicator (as it's SUPER dim with a bulb in it) and when removing the LED to turn it around and change the polarity to see if it would work, the metal housing of the LED shorted on the back of the PCB and blew one of the traces to bits. Cue much swearing, and soldering a new link in to bridge the burnt-out trace. I had to insulate under this one as its really close to the other traces and I didn't want them to short out against the new wire. Another test shows that thankfully I didn't cock it up completely, and everything works again. Phew. Well, by "everything" I mean everything but the clock, since that is dead as a doornail. I tried feeding 12V straight into it and it will tick once, the second hand will move, and then it's dead until I remove and replace power, where it will tick once, again. Very disappointed. So now I'm left with a couple of options. Find a tacho module to swap in. Disassemble and break the clock more fix the clock. Or Find an aftermarket tacho that matches the size and style and 3D print a bracket to hold it in place. Not sure what I'll do yet, but I do have a lead on a stock tacho, so we'll see. Before giving up for the day I thought I would try some 303 Aerospace Protectant on the super dry vinyl dash. It came up surprisingly well. It's still very dry and has a lot of overspray on it, but its black, not grey now. It just drank the 303 up, so will keep applying more and see if it softens it over time. A bit different from how it looked before. I've got a wee box of bits waiting to go into the car, but I'm still waiting on a few more parts to arrive from the UK. I need the BMW to sell before I can really get cracking. It's listed for sale now, so hopefully someone falls in love with it soon. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted March 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2021 Typically, being sat for 25 odd years, none of the hydraulics work. The clutch pedal is solid, and the brake pedal goes to the floor, and both do nothing to their respective components. I removed and stripped the clutch master and slave a while back, just to see what was going on. The slave was definitely seized, as using a long prybar on the clutch fork to compress the slave resulted in a sudden BANG and it started to move freely. I still needed to remove it to inspect though, as it was obviously getting hung up on something. The Aussies are a bit smarter than the Brits with the slave cylinder. The UK cars you need to remove the clutch line, remove the clutch pin, and then try to slide the cylinder towards the rear of the car, and get it out from between its housing and the clutch fork. Sometimes this is easy, other times it requires a special tool to push the clutch fork back to create space. The Aus cars have a circlip to secure the slave, so once that and the clutch line is removed, the slave slides towards the front of the car, where there is ample space to remove it. In fact, one of the UK manuals I have claims the slave can ONLY be removed if the gearbox is removed from the car! UK cars And Aus cars With the slave removed and on the bench, I removed the pushrod pin and boot. You can see the rusty sludge that the piston has moved. After I cleaned the sludge out of the holes in the circlip and removed it, the guts of the cylinder came out with some prodding. Everything actually looked reasonably good, with minimal signs of rust in the bore. There was some at the very front, which a quick touch up with fine sandpaper fixed no issue. I'll be reusing this slave, but have a new seal kit for it. I could have gotten away with reusing the existing seal, it looked fine, but don't want to do the job twice for the sake of a few quid. That kit arrived the other day, so will rebuild that soon. The master on the other hand is a write off. I removed it from the car, removed the pushrod, and thats as far as I can go No amount of "gently tapping" will force that piston out. I ended up putting about 70PSI behind it, and only got this far I can only presume the piston and/or the bore is rusty and just binding. It turns out this is a Spitfire master cylinder, so have ordered a complete replacement and will fit that when it arrives. Moving along, I started work on the brakes. This work was proceeded by buying some basic parts and finding some in the boot. I purchased all new hoses for the front and rear. The fronts are from a Series 3 Land Rover (2x BR0764) and the rear is from a Triumph Spitfire (1x GBH166). I found a new old stock master cylinder rebuild kit in the boot, purchased new in Tokoroa in 2001. I had previously tried to bleed the system but got zero fluid from any of the bleed nipples, even when trying to draw the fluid through under vacuum. There was fluid in the reservoir when I got the car, but it was a bit low, so I thought I would top it off before trying to draw it through. Pouring in dot4 resulted in the weirdest "mixing" I've seen. The fluid kinda floated around and when it slowly mixed it kinda sparkled and didn't look right. I sucked the fluid out, and sure enough, I'm 90% sure the master cylinder was filled with engine oil. It smelt like clean engine oil. Even sucking it all out left some sludge in the bottom of the reservoir. This was a bit easier to strip down. A few hard bashes on the vice and the piston popped out, covering my hand in whatever sludge was in the bore, chunks and all. I was trying to think of why you would fill the reservoir with oil and the only reason I could come up with was to stop the bore rusting. Well, it didn't. With the piston removed, there was some minor rust on the sides of the bore, but bad rust and pitting at the very end, where the seal on the end needs to block the reservoir. I cleaned it up as much as I could. The rust on the sides of the bore wiped off with some fine sandpaper. The piston had some light corrosion on it, but looked OK otherwise. This is the end seal, you can see all the crud built up around it The seals weren't too bad, but having the new kit already I swapped them all over and reassembled. A quick test on the bench showed that it seemed to be working as it should, so I reinstalled it into the car. Now it was time to work on the hoses and calipers. I started on the front. The hoses came off reasonably easily. With the hose disconnected from the hard line I attached my vacuum bleeder to suck through fluid and flush the line. I like using the green fluid as it's really obvious when the new fluid is coming through. Out of curiosity, once I removed the hose I connected the vac pump up to one end, left the other end open and tried to pull air through it. Nothing. Blocked solid, and even with the most suction that pump can draw, not a single drop of air could get through. I was warned about these style hoses, the old style with that textured outer layer, when I redid the hoses on the TVR. The rear hose on the TVR was of this style, and apparently they are known for internally degrading and blocking up over time. The other side was the same, completely blocked. The new Land Rover pattern hoses look nice enough I temporarily reconnected the old hose to the hard line, just to block the end of it in the mean time so I can draw a vacuum from the reservoir. The other side had some questionable looking fluid in the lines, but flushed OK. With the hoses off I began removing the calipers. I'm glad I previously vacuumed most of the cobwebs off. Ugh. These were well stuck on, but some hammering and levering saw them jump off the rotor. I'm hoping the rotors will clean up OK, will need to check their thickness. Everything looked and felt like it had been on there far too long. Even removing the pad retaining pins was a pain, but lots of hammering and lots of CRC got them out. The previous owner got their monies worth from the pads. One of the piston boots was missing its retaining clip, and was just floating around. I had to get creative to try and force the pistons out. One is moving freely, but one is jammed solid. Even 128psi couldnt shift it. I'll need to try and shock it with my actual air compressor, not slowly build pressure with the tyre inflator. The other caliper isn't much better, neither piston felt like moving on that one. The one piston I did get out was a disappointment though, the chrome coating is flaking off in places and there is scoring and corrosion on it, so all the pistons will need to be replaced. I already have a seal kit, but will wait on new pistons now. Might even paint the calipers in the meantime to make them flashy (even if you can see them with the wheels on). The last job for the day was to remove the rear hose. There is only one, as the fluid goes to the RH side wheel cylinder and then crosses over to the LH side one. Another old textured hose. New hose partly connected. I'm pleased at hose easily these old hoses came off. A ratcheting spanner certainly helps for the lock nut though. And new hose installed. Another quick test with the vac pump, and sure enough, another completely blocked hose Pays to check your hoses and replace them if they are the old style. With the new hose in place, the only other thing to do was flush the lines with new fluid. There was quite a bit of fluid in the cylinders and lines. Didn't look too bad, and no rust, so hopefully that means the rear wheel cylinders are still OK. I can get the kits to rebuild them locally, so will see if they work first and go from there. And keep pulling it through until it goes green Unfortunately I tried pumping the pedal with the system all buttoned up, and the master cylinder is blowing fluid back into the reservoir, indicating the end seal isn't sealing. I have reached out to a couple of companies that should be able to sleeve the cylinder and will see what they say. In the mean time, off to make a list of more parts I need to buy. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted March 29, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 Pistons are out. The fluid that was behind them was disgusting. There was also a buildup in the lowest point of the caliper which I had to chip out during cleaning. This pitting is what I was up against. It was grabbing the seal for dear life. Used a combo of air from my compressor, whilst beating the heck out of the piston with a punch in the direction of removal to get them out. The calipers cleaned up alright after a dip in the parts washer. Now sitting in a bath of Evaporust to clean any rust out. Waiting on the new pistons to arrive and then I'll rebuild the calipers. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted April 6, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2021 I refurbished the rear drum brake setup today. I almost left it as is, but I'm glad I didn't as it definitely needed stripping down. I removed the drums a while back and had a quick visual inspection, and whilst one side looked like it had been under the ocean, there was no brake fluid or axle grease where it shouldn't be. I started on the LH side, which didn't look like it had been under the sea, but instead had been full of bugs and spiders. The whole drum was packed with cobwebs and took a lot of cleaning and vacuuming to not be grossed out. The shoes look really good, almost new I'd say, and everything was very dry. Someone had been in here before though as this big, annoying to install, spring should be behind the shoes, not in front of them. Removing the shoes is a case of removing the little retaining spring pins, removing the big spring and then the pair of shoes can be withdrawn from the backing plate. With the shoes out the cylinder can be removed by undoing the pipe(s), removing the boot, sliding the U shaped clip downwards and the spring clip upwards. The cylinder should be free to remove. This one looked OK. The boot was torn, and the piston had some crud built up on it, but the bore was clean. The piston seal looked so good I probably could have reused it, but since I ordered a replacement seal kit anyway, I replaced it. The seal kit for this car is from a Spitfire and has 3/4" (19.05mm) bore. With the build up carefully scraped off and polished with some fine sandpaper, the new piston seal goes on. Now, before installing the piston in the cylinder again, install the boot first. This is a real prick of a job as it needs to stretch over the top, and it's a very tight fit. And carefully install back into the cylinder. I chose to lube the cylinder walls and piston/seal with brake fluid for assembly. Reinstall the clip and you're done. There isn't a heck of a lot to a wheel cylinder on these. I cleaned up and greased the self-adjuster. This just rests in the bottom of the cylinder but must turn freely. Now clean the backing plate up, especially at the points where the cylinder and shoes contact it (the six raised bumps on the top and bottom, as well as the anchor where the end of the shoes rest and behind the wheel cylinder). I used a wire brush and brake clean. Once clean, use thin smears of copper or brake grease on those contact points. Once the cylinder and hand brake lever is installed, reinstall the shoes. I found this easiest with the double spring in one end (shoe end), rest the top shoe on the hub, whilst inserting the lower shoe into the self-adjuster and then the shoe anchor. Now the top shoe can be installed. Take care not to lose the little metal H piece that sits above the handbrake lever where it goes through the shoe. Don't forget to install the retaining pins and the big spring. As mentioned, this should be behind the shoes, and I found levering it in place with a long flat blade screwdriver easiest. It takes a few tries. Done. Rebuilt cylinder So cocky, on went the drum Now to move onto the other side. This one was very crusty. Obviously water had gotten into the drum somehow, and couldn't get out until it dried over time. This drum had plugs in the adjuster holes, whilst the other side didn't. Explains why the bugs liked that side, and the water got stuck in this side. The cylinder on this side was looking particularly average. Removing the shoes shows how crusty it was The adjuster was completely seized. No chance of self-adjustment here. Just as an aside, the self-adjustment works by means of pulling on the hand brake. Pulling the hand brake pulls up on the top shoe, creating the friction to stop the car, but the movement of that lever also moves the metal tang in the photo below from left to right. As it heads on over to the right it catches the teeth of the adjuster, which winds the threaded inner section that the lower shoe rests on up and down. The whole cylinder is free to move up and down in its mount, which evens out the braking between the two shoes. Simple. Removing the cylinder on this side was a little more of a pain as it has the inlet and the link pipe, instead of just the inlet and a bleeder like the other side. Both freed off with some careful force, and out came the cylinder. The adjuster came off the end after a couple of careful taps with a hammer. It was packed with furry corrosion behind it. As was the space under the boot on the top. This concerned me a bit as it didn't bode well for the condition of the bore. The piston is completely compressed and didn't move by hand It did move with some gentle persuasion with a long screwdriver though I had to get a bit more angry to get it out further. A long spanner was used as the lever for this And out it popped The bore looks worse than it is. The cylinder is aluminium, so it's not really rust, just a build up of gunk stuck to the bore. I suspect the piston is stainless as other than more gunk on it, it was immaculate. The seal on the other hand was rubbish as there is a big tear/cut in it. Mmm, more crusty fur I tidied the bore up with some careful scraping, and then some very fine sandpaper. There is some staining on the walls, but there are no marks you can feel. The walls are very smooth. The rest of the cylinder got scraped and wire brushed before a good clean out and the new seal kit fitted. Before refitting, the back plate was de-crusted with a wire brush and then brake clean. The cylinder was refitted. The locking method for these is a bit of a pain, but simple enough. The spring clip goes down from the top first, with the dimples pointing outwards (away from the cylinder). The locking U shaped clip then slides up over top of the spring clip, and locks into the dimples. I used a flat blade screwdriver to press down on the top of the spring clip, and pliers to tap up on the U clip. And the wheel cylinder is in. The shoes got a quick scuff with some rough sandpaper to clean the surface up a bit, and then they were fitted. They look fine but had some rust marks where they had been in contact with the drum. And the completed assembly The friction surface on the drum was quite rusty too, so that got a wire brush before fitting. It's good enough that any other rust should be scraped off once the car is on the road and the brakes operate. Drum fitted Unfortunately I can't test them as the master cylinder is off being re-sleeved, and the front brakes also need to go back on, but hopefully it won't be long. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted April 8, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2021 So, I've been digging with the stripping wheel on the grinder. I poked this scab a while back... And yesterday I went full bore at it. The previous owner was definitely a sculptor. There are places where the bog is 1-2CM thick. Its messy AF, so will leave the rest of the stripping until I can get the car outside and make the rest of the dust natures problem The strange thing is, the bog doesn't need to be this thick. I got a profile gauge today and using the good LH side as a sample, I compared it to the stripped RH side. Its not perfect, but its a lot closer to useable than I expected. There is no way it needed that much bog. Once I have the rest of the bog off I'm going to etch prime the panel (takes the shine away, which is making it hard to see the shape) and then try my hand at shaping it with a hammer and dolly. Not sure how much better I can make the swage line, as its almost gone in places, but we'll see. Worst case, I keep an eye out for a replacement panel cut. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted April 19, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2021 Finally, it's been a long time in the making, but for the first time in many years the Marina has brakes. In the previous post, I refurbed and reassembled the rear brakes, but in the meantime I had also been working on the rest of the system. Unfortunately, things like this take time and money, both of which are a sticking point for me at the moment (mainly time, I'm waiting over a month for parts from the UK). Even further back I started to strip the front calipers, which after some creative work with my compressor, I managed to do. First, I reinstalled the old pads, with a pry bar between them and used that to restrict the movement of the pistons, whilst pressurising the caliper and tapping the caliper body with a hammer. Eventually the pistons moved a little, but what made the biggest movement was using a punch and hammer to drive the piston out of the bore. Obviously, this is super destructive, so don't do this to pistons you want to keep (but pistons you want to keep shouldn't be stuck like these) Out came one piston, along with a lot of sludge This allowed me to slip the old piston back in after greasing it up, and using it to block the bore, and drive just the other piston out. I tried clamps, but there wasn't enough space with what I had, so ended up using a hose clamp to keep the piston from moving. It worked a treat, and I ended up getting all four pistons out of the calipers in this way. Now, before I go further, heed my warnings. Playing with hydraulics, compressed air, and brake fluid, is a dangerous game. Make sure you wear all your PPE. If it's not the crushing force of a piston flying out, it could be pressured brake fluid spraying into your face. I should know, at one point when forcing 100+psi into the caliper I ended up with a fine mist of brake fluid spraying into my face. Thankfully I had safety glasses on, which stopped me from taking an eyeful of brake fluid and being blind, but it still wasn't pleasant. I have now upgraded to a full face shield for work like this. As well as spraying my face, I didn't realise the fluid had travelled a meter or so behind me and ended up on the front of the Honda. Unfortunately, this sat on the paint and headlight overnight. The paint seems to have survived with only some minor marking, but the headlight has stained badly and will need replacing. So yes, take care of yourself and your surroundings. ALWAYS wear the correct PPE. Also remember that plain old water neutralises brake fluid, so that should be the go-to for cleaning it off. Hydraulics are dangerous, if you aren't confident in what you are doing, seek professional support for the job. Anyway, moving on, this is why the pistons were stuck. Deep corrosion. After scrubbing the calipers in the parts washer, they spent a couple of days in the Evaporust bath to remove the rust. They aren't perfect, and I probably should have painted them, but at the end of the day they are clean, internally rust-free and won't be seen behind the wheels. I purchased a seal kit to suit the Girling Type 14 calipers as used on the Spitfire, PN GRK5005, which worked a treat. These Girlock calipers are almost an exact copy of the Girlings. In went the piston seals, with lots of rubber grease. Make sure these sit flat, and arent twisted or pinched. Next it's piston time. The pistons I used are once again from a Girling Type 14, PN 516212. These are slightly different where the dust boot sits. The Girlock pistons don't have a retaining groove, just a lip. The Girlings have a recessed groove. I figure since the seals I'm using are for the Girling, the Girlings pistons will be just fine (and to note, the old Girlock seals are visually the same). The overall dimensions of the piston are the same. Girling on the left, Girlock on the right. The Girling piston had a much bigger lead in chamfer, which helps during assembly. Pressing the pistons in was easy enough by hand. Lots of rubber grease, place it square and press it in with fingertips. Once it seats a bit, I used a long spanner over the face of the piston to push down evenly with both hands (one hand on each side of the caliper). It should go in with minimal force. The dust boot is a prick. The inner lip sits in the piston recess, the outer lip just rests on the lip around the piston bore. A retaining ring holds it in place by friction. Getting this ring in place, without it pulling the boot off, took a few tries. I found the easiest way to do it was to line the ends of the ring up so they are touching (spreading the ring open), and working from the back (opposite the open end of the ring) work it around the boot, holding it in place whilst you stretch the open ends of the ring into place. It's hard to describe, and do, but will make sense after a few tries. Two calipers with new seals, pistons and boots. I cleaned up the bleed nipples, making sure they were clear (they weren't), and refit the hard pipes. That's the calipers done. Next in the firing line was the front rotors. I measured them a while ago and they came out as more or less new thickness, and have no lips. I feel like they were replaced not long before the car was laid up. Because of this, I don't want to replace them, that would be a damn waste. I was going to just send it, and use the pads to scrape the rust off them when it drives, but thought better of that when I had a good look. Crusty. The best thing in this case was to remove the hub and rotor, and send the rotors off to be skimmed. Before removing the hubs, I measured the runout in them. There should be 0.0245 - 0.1270mm play. This is to allow the bearings to expand when they warm up in use. Too tight and they will bind and fail. Too loose and they will wobble about and fail. Well, the Lh side had this much play 0.185mm play. Quite a bit above the maximum allowable. I'm getting an awful lot of use out of my dial indicator with these old cars! The RH side had zero play, not a thing. So both sides were set wrong. Glad I looked. The LH side split pin was.... split. It's missing a whole leg, and was only sitting in place. It also pays to loosen the rotor bolts whilst the hub is on the car, just in case you need to stop it spinning. The rattle gun did this with no effort. With the hub nut removed, the whole lot comes off pretty easily. The stub axle looks in good shape if a bit dirty. One hub with rotor. As a matter of course I bought a wheel bearing kit, as the old grease looked horrible, and there were signs of wear on the outer bearing races. The outer bearing was an LM11949 and the inner was L44649. The back of the rotor looks worse than the front Unlike the TVR, the rotors on the Marina came off easily with only minimal tapping with a hammer. I drove the old outer races out with a hammer and punch and gave the hub a good clean in the parts washer. The rotors were sent away to be machined and came back looking good. They could've skimmed a little more off, but I'm sure the pads will scrub them clean in no time. Before the rotor goes back on, the new bearings were pressed into the hub. The new bearings. The new race was pressed in with the old race, and a deep socket The rotor was loosely attached. Note the markings on the hub reminding me the rotor bolts aren't torqued. This can only be done on the car, using a long pry bar to lock the hub from spinning. The bearings were packed and fitted, along with a new seal. Before fitting the hub, I quickly swapped the old blocked front hoses for the new ones. These are Land Rover hoses, PN BR0764 And on goes the hub. Set to the correct runout With the caps and calipers fitted Both hubs had the rotor bolts torqued down, so the markings were removed The last few pieces of the puzzle were the master cylinder (which I sent off to be resleeved and rekitted), a new brake pipe from the master cylinder (since I damaged the old one removing it. A friend helped make a new one), and new pad fitting kit (in transit from the UK). The brake master and clutch slave I sent away to be resleeved came back looking lovely. Nice new stainless bores, as well as a good cleanup. Won't have to worry about these rusting up again. Of course, I couldn't just fit the nice clean cylinder to the rubbish looking firewall plate, so that got a wire brush and a coat of paint. It's hard to believe it's the same master cylinder, and the same cap. I cleaned and used Araldite to fix the crack in the cap. The pedals got new clevis pins, since the old ones had seen their share of work! And finally, the brake light switch was tested Which revealed that it didn't work. The switch is easy enough to strip, these tabs on the side need to be pressed to remove the bottom of the unit and pull the guts out How this switch works confused me for a bit. When you remove the top from the bottom, it actually moves where the internal contact is, and if you don't spot it during disassembly it can be confusing. It got to the point I purchased a cheap replacement so I could work out how it's assembled. This is whats inside the switch, and how it came apart As it turns out, as seen on this replacement switch, the U shaped contact goes under the two legs. It's a Normally Closed switch, so it makes a circuit when the switch is released. When the brake pedal is pressed it's releasing the switch, which makes the circuit, otherwise normally it's pressed in, which moves the U shaped contact away from the two legs. The spring sits under the U shaped contact which pushes it up. The replacement switch was a bit cheap, so instead I cleaned up the contacts of the old one and reassembled it. It takes some fiddling to keep the contact under the two legs whilst you slip the base in to the top housing, but it can be done. A test shows that when pressed, the circuit is broken And released, it makes the circuit The original Lucas Australia switch lives to fight another day. The pad fitting kit finally arrived today, so I fitted the NOS pads, new shims and new pins. It's a bit of a pain with new pads and new thickness rotors, its all very tight, but it's there. I then drew fluid through with a vacuum bleeder, until all three bleed nipples had clean fluid coming through. Then it was back to the old one-man bleeder to finish the job. The brake pedal is now firm, with good travel. The rear adjusters have adjusted up (can hear the shoes slightly dragging the drum), and the hand brake is working. Everything needs a good bedding in, but for now, everything is doing what it should, and there seems to be no leaks. I don't know when it last had brakes, but it may not have been in this millennium. Now all I'm waiting on is a clutch master cylinder, which is en route from the UK, and a drive shaft that will be on its way to me tomorrow from down south. Once they arrive, we should be good for a trip up the driveway. Excite. 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted June 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 It feels like it's been a huge uphill battle getting a working tacho in this car, but I think I have finally mastered it. Over the past few months, I have somehow ended up with a few different clusters, including two with the elusive tachometer module, and the one with the non-functioning clock I previously made a post about. The first three dial with tacho I bought from Trademe. It was the correct Aus cluster, with the lower 5500RPM redline, and a couple of other small differences as I would later find out. Eager to get the tacho in and working I started to dig around the wiring diagrams to work out what I needed to do. I had heard rumours that the wiring was already in the dash, behind the cluster, and sure enough, after some poking around, I noticed a white wire tucked away with a joiner in the middle of it. This tracked with what I was expecting to find based on the wiring diagrams. It was a big loop in the harness. I fished it out from behind the duct and unplugged it. A couple of quick checks and I was sure it was the coil trigger for the tacho. On the cars without tachos, this is just looped in the dash but needs to be connected or it cuts power to the coil. I guess it made it cheaper and easier, to just use the one harness. The back of the tacho unit has corresponding bullet terminals So I plugged it into the dash, and bam, nothing happened. Well, the alt/oil lights worked as they should, but the tacho was dead. I was a bit miffed Nothing more to do then but to get to disassembly and find out what's wrong. The tacho unit is held into its housing by a couple of screws through the back, and the fascia/glass in the front. This is what the module looks like removed. Having already googled "why does my Smiths RVI tacho not work" I could already see something was wrong. Those four holes in the foreground, under that red wire? Yeah, according to google there should be a transistor there, and it's crucial to the operation of the unit. The solder pads had clearly been messed with too. It looked like someone had desoldered the component with a blowtorch. I hit the seller up and asked if he knew why it's been molested, and he just pleaded ignorance and fobbed me off with a "oh well, it's an old part". I suspect the capacitor or transistor had failed at some point (which is common) and someone tried to fix it. Failing to have the right parts on hand or something, they just chucked it back together and set it aside. As fate would have it, a fellow classic car sufferer on a forum I'm on knew I'm suffering the Marina affliction and mentioned that he had come across some Marina bits as part of a garage clearout, and would I be interested in a cluster he found? Heck yeah I would! The legend donated this to the cause, so a huge Thank You. So, this was the second tacho cluster I have. It came in a tidy surround, but it was brown, not black. No issue, They are easy to swap, and I only really needed the guts. Differences to observe. The silver rings around the dials, instead of the black the Aus cars have, the 6000RPM redline on the tacho face (ignore the askew tacho, I had already started to disassemble it), and the different markings on the fuel and temp scales (0 instead of E, and adding the N to temp). One final difference I didn't notice initially, is the warning lights are different, with some either doing different functions, or in the case of the indicator telltale lamps, not there at all. The UK cars seem to use one single green light to show the indicator is on, whilst the Aus cars use the two spaces above the center dial as left and right signals. *removes anorak* Right, so this cluster. Excitedly I plugged it into the car, and we had some success. The tacho moved! But it barely exceeded 1000rpm when revving the engine. I think this one may have been suffering from the known issues Smiths RVI tachos suffer from (bad capacitors), but instead of messing around with the old inductive RVI style guts, I spent a hefty whack of cash on the Spiyda RVI-RVC conversion board. The original RVI tacho is current sensing, so it intercepts the power feed to the ignition coil, and by some wizardry senses the pulses and creates a signal for the tacho to output. The issue with this is apparently the tacho only works with points, and in the future I want the option of upgrading to electronic ignition without having to replace the tacho again, so it had to go. The Spiyda board removes all the existing guts from the tacho, and replaces it with a new board that reads the signal from the negative terminal on the coil (like 90% of tachometers). Heck, it can even be fed a signal from an ECU. It's pretty swish stuff. I stripped the second tacho out of the housing, and you can see the missing component of tacho one here; the silver can is a special transistor. I started with the guts of the first tacho since that one was dead in the water anyway. Spiyda has extensive instructions on its site, here, so follow those, but this is how I went about it. The first step is to remove the needle. You don't need to mark where the needle sits, just make sure the mechanism is against its stop when you refit the needle. To remove it I used an old business card with a notch cut in it, and a sturdy fork. The business card is to reduce the risk of damage to the face. A swift lever upwards popped the needle off. Two little screws secure the face. The kit comes with a tiny screwdriver to remove these. Now cut the power feed wire, and the two thin wires to the mechanism and remove the two screws holding the circuit to the frame. It should pull off the front. The new board then gets screwed in place Now solder the wires in their respective places (in my case the black and red wires had to be swapped). and you're ready for testing and calibrating. Now, I did make a mistake in the above photo. It turns out that the video I was following, made by Spiyda, was out of date, so you no longer calibrate the unit by putting the red clip onto the tacho feed (which I made from the old RVI tacho feed, by cutting a section off and soldering it to the board). Instead, you need to clip the red clip to the solder pad on the far right, closest to the big chip (on the other side of the board), or solder pad number 4. With 12v connected to the spade terminal on the back, the red clip on the solder pad and the black clip on the metal frame, it's time to calibrate. Now, this was a real ballache for me. In the end, I don't know why it suddenly started to work properly, or what I did differently, but it was chaos. The instruction and files to download for calibration are on the Spiyda site, here. Basically, you play a square wave audio file at a certain frequency through the cable at full volume. That frequency should correspond with a certain RPM reading on the tacho. Since I was using a low revving 4 cylinder engine, I used the 100 and 200hz files as this should read 3000rpm and 6000rpm on the tacho. I had various levels of success depending on what device I was using. My Macbook, no good. My phone, initially average. My windows based Dell tablet, good but with some issues. I could get it to read 3000rpm, but doubling the frequency would either make the needle drop or only increase by a small amount. There was also a big jump in the needle at the start and it kinda crept down. This Gif shows the issue I was having. This is the 100-200 sweep, where it starts at 100hz and then shifts to 200hz. You can see the 100hz once the needle settles down, but then when it changes to 200hz the needle drops to just under 2500RPM. I had been in contact with Spiyda support for a while, since even before calibration issues I had issues getting the unit to respond in the first place, and they had been very helpful in getting to where I was, with prompt replies, but then the support suddenly went cold and I heard nothing further from them. It even got to the point of stripping down the second tacho and seeing if the issues were limited to the first one; they weren't. I persisted with various things, and eventually I had great success using my phone. I don't know what changed, or why it worked now but didn't earlier, but suddenly I had 3000RPM at 100hz and 6000RPM at 200hz. It needed a small tweak of the calibration pot on the back, but it was rock solid. With much excitement, I rushed to the garage and reassembled it into its housing. And with a temporary wire run outside the car from the coil negative to the cluster, I fired the engine up. Nothing. *Sigh* And then I remembered there were options for the input. There was a high voltage and low voltage signal option. In hindsight, if I had paid attention initially I wouldn't have wired the input to the high voltage "sports coil" option, and should've used the "normal coil" option. Oops. It was easy to fix once I removed the guts from the cluster and moved the white wire one pad to the right. I reassembled the cluster and plugged it in. Success! I've run the car a couple of times since, and the tacho seems to be fairly accurate. It doesn't need to be 100% accurate, just within the ballpark is good enough, and better than Leyland would've done. It responds quickly and is very stable. I still need to run the tacho wire inside the car, but that's easy enough to do. I should probably fit the surround back on the gauges too since they are more or less done now. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted June 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 It's been a while since I had done any work on the Marina. The Tacho kinda progressed in the background, but most of the focus had been on getting the Carib going. But with the Carib on the road, I turned my attention to the Marina again. One of the things that had to be done before I could attempt to move the car under its own power was to rebuild the driveshaft/propshaft. I knew from when I first went under the car that the center hanger bearing was completely shot, and had collapsed, so at the very least that needed to be replaced. Ages ago (about two months ago) I slid under the car and removed the driveshaft. Hanger bearing was looking a bit sad I'm glad I took it out and checked, it turns out the bolt that secures the two halves together was... missing. There was also play in at least one of the universal joints, and it wasn't the one secured by clips. Two of the three UJs are secured by a process called Staking, where they physically deform the metal around the edge of the cap to hold it in place. This is a real pain because it needs some skill and usually a bigger press than I have to replace them. You can see better detail in this example image A normal universal joint is secured by a big circlip in a groove, which is far easier to work with. This prompted me to reach out to a fellow Marina owner and purchase a spare driveshaft off him, which although had a failed center bearing too, used Circlip style UJs and had the securing bolt for the two halves. I finally got around to attacking the replacement driveshaft the other day. I wanted to refurbish the whole thing since it was old and I didn't want to have to pull it out later to replace the UJs. There is a great video by Chris Fix on how to replace UJs. He makes it look easy, but I hated this job. First I cleaned it up a bit, marked the alignment and removed the clips with a pair of circlip pliers This end was pretty straightforward. Big socket (24mm impact) underneath, and a smaller one that fits into the recess (14mm impact, 16mm normal) on top and using a big hammer, smash the 14mm socket down, pushing the UJ cap out the bottom. It came apart more or less with no trouble. Push the joint down, pull the cap out. push the joint back up, pull the cap out. Done. To fit the new joint, I found it best to lubricate the recess you are pressing the caps into with clean ATF, and then press them both in together using a bench vice. This helps to press them in square. I didn't do this for the first couple, I used the method of hammering the new caps into place. I did unfortunately find out why they recommend sealed joints without grease fittings... There is not enough room in the joint for the long grease fitting, and you would risk breaking the fitting off when the joint moves. These joints were very cheap on clearance though, so I persisted anyway and dealt with that later. One end of the driveshaft done. The new joint is smooth and feels great. A few pumps of the grease gun and it was ready for action. Kinda. The next joint was well jammed in place, to the point it blew the end out of the cap before dislodging it You can tell from the state of it when it did come out that had some issues. Being a sealed unit, you can't grease it, so once the grease hardened it was all bad. Fitting the replacement wasn't much better. This was when I was still using hammers to fit the caps and I came really stuck on this second UJ. I can only presume the caps weren't going in quite square, which meant they were binding. After a few tries I moved to the press, which only did one thing, it blew the new cap to bits. But it also scored the cross piece So no, I'm not perfect, I do sometimes make stupid mistakes too. I took a little break from that UJ here as I needed another new one to continue and moved to the hanger bearing. I tore the rest of the outer part off and used a hammer and pry bar to carefully drive the old bearing off. After a little bit it popped off With the bearing off it was easier to handle, so had a go at replacing this UJ. This was the only one that is greasable, and as I later found out this is because there is a small recess in the flange to allow space for the grease nipple. You can just make the recess out here. This was another one that I was having a battle with, but instead of trying to use more force to press it out, I just grabbed the grinder and used a cutoff wheel to make quick work of it. Take that! The new caps pressed in fine, using my newly honed method of starting with the flange, and pressing the caps in with my vice until they are flush, and then tapping them in the rest of the way with a socket and hammer until the clips fit in the recess. A couple of taps on the flange frees the joint up. Another rookie failure here, I didn't notice there was a recess for the grease nipple at the time, so fitted the joint in the wrong orientation. Argh. Without another new joint to replace the damaged one, the only thing I could do was fit the new center bearing. This was as easy as popping it into place, with the longer side facing the splines and then tapping it down until it bottoms out. I used a big socket and an old bearing race as a spacer. I had a new joint arrive a couple of days later, so in that went. I initially tried fitting it to the existing flange, but it didn't feel right, so went with my gut feeling and pulled the flange off my original driveshaft, and used that instead (thankfully it was the one joint that wasn't staked). It's not ideal, but I feel like the flange may be damaged on the other one which is why I was having so much trouble. The joints pressed in with no issue. Ignore the placeholder bolt, that was just testing it was a 6mm grease fitting thread. The other two joints were 1/4" UNF thread. Speaking of, to sort my issue of all the grease nipple being too long and fouling the joints, I went out and bought some short grease nipples. These clear with ample space, but were an utter bastard to fit. They have a bigger hex than the longer ones, and there is no room to actually get anything on the hex when you screw it into the joint. I ended up tightening them up one flat at a time with the spanner sticking straight up in line with the fitting. In hindsight, I would get the sealed joints, but if I couldn't, I would get some grub screws with the correct threads and use them to plug the holes after greasing. Either way, the joints are all greased, and the holes plugged. With all the joints replaced and the new center bearing in place all I had to do now was refit the two halves of the shaft. The spline is keyed with a double width tooth, so it can only fit in one orientation. Take note before sliding the spline completely down that it's easier to start fitting the bolt in the center when the shaft is slightly apart as there is limited space with the joint in place. I did the bolt up as tight as possible, and then bent the locking tab over. Now all I need to do is fit it back to the car, but that can happen another day since I can't be bothered rolling around on the ground right now. Once that's in, since the clutch is bled and working, all that's left is new tyres, which are currently in a stack next to the car waiting for me to strip the old tyres off and paint the wheels. Getting real close to moving under its own power for the first time in about 25 years. 23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted June 30, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 One part I neglected to address in my previous post about the driveshaft was the sliding yoke. It was seized, and no amount of pretending it wasn't was freeing it up. The sliding yoke sits at either end of the diff half of the drive shaft. Sometimes it's on the diff end of the shaft, or in my case, it's in the middle near the center bearing, depending on where BL felt like assembling it. Either way, it's a crucial part of the driveshaft. As the rear axle travels up and down in normal driving, the rear section of the driveshaft has to raise and lower with it. The problem is that the axle travels in an arc, which means the distance from the axle to the center hanger bearing increases and decreases slightly as it moves through its travel. To account for this change in distance, the driveshaft needs to be able to change length. This is done with the sliding yoke. Inside the yoke is a series of strong splines, which mate with another set of splines attached to the end of the driveshaft. This allows the shaft to transfer power through it via the splines, but also slide in and out to account for the movement. A cap, spring and seal stop the spline from coming all the way out. My yoke didn't slide at all. It was completely compressed at its shortest length and would not budge. I tried many things to free it up, including filling it with penetrating oil and hitting it with various hammers. Nothing. I even tried hanging it and seeing if gravity would free it up (it didn't). I tried a few other things with no luck, but the one thing I was lacking was tension on the spline. Hitting it to shock it was fine, but if there was no tension pulling the two halves apart then I was only going to get so far. So I had a brainwave (it hurt). Two ratchet straps and a very sturdy workbench later, I had this contraption I ratchet strapped each end of the shaft to a leg of the bench and put tension on the shaft. With one hand I grabbed the yoke and leaned back, putting even more tension on the shaft. With my other hand, I hit the flat of the driveshaft with a hammer. Sure enough, after a few hits, I saw movement and then with a POP it fully extended. I unscrewed the cap at this point, which reveals the cork seal and washer. The cork seal is known for being pretty chewed up and is unobtainable new now. Thankfully mine was in mint condition. And for the first time I could see the splines. The old grease was black and disgusting, and the splines had obvious signs of surface corrosion. One thing to make sure of is that both halves are clearly marked so it is reassembled in the same location. I scribed lines into the yoke and driveshaft and then marked it with a white paint pen. The spline isn't keyed, so can fit many different ways. The main thing to take care of is that the UJs are in phase, which means they both have to be in line with each other. With the spline removed it was time to get cleaning. All the old grease was cleaned off with brake cleaner and a toothbrush. Which revealed why it was seized together. All the teeth had surface rust to some degree. This was binding with the internal splines in the yoke. A good wiring brushing quickly got rid of most of it, showing the splines to be in good shape otherwise. The splines were then slathered in grease ready for reassembly. The internal splines in the yoke also got a good clean Once I was satisfied with the condition of the splines I packed the yoke with grease and slid the driveshaft back in. And wound the cap back down over the seal. A quick wipe to remove the grease ejected out the breather, and we're done. The joint slides freely so should do the job nicely. With that done, the driveshaft had been completely overhauled now and is finally 100% ready to go back in the car. 24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kws Posted July 17, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 With the driveshaft all fresh and clean, all I needed to do was crawl under the car and refit it. While under there though, I thought it prudent to replace the last remaining fluids. Refitting the driveshaft was easy enough. I reused the old bolts but invested in some new locknuts to secure them. It turned out that the new center bearing has different sized captive nuts, so the old bolts wouldn't work. I got fed up with having to guess and buy bolts one by one, as all my stocks of spare bolts are of course Metric, and the Marina is Imperial, so ended up buying a kit of various sized Imperial nuts, bolts and washers from Trademe. With the driveshaft completely refitted I moved on to changing the driveline fluids. Both the gearbox and diff call for a GL5 EP90, which as it turns out, is a bit harder to find locally. I chose to go with a Castrol Axle EPX 80W90 instead, which is a GL5 spec EP oil. The gearbox was easy to drain and fill. The fill plug, which you should remove first, is on the RH side. Just a normal imperial square, as is the drain plug on the bottom. The old fluid, which has been in there for at least 25 years, wasn't as bad as it could be. It had a few years to settle at the bottom and was thick with a dark grey hue, that later changed to a dark brown. No chunks though, so that's a win. I pumped some fresh fluid through to help shift anything sitting on the bottom, and refit the drain plug. Just a smidgen over 1L was pumped into the box, and when it started to dribble out I refit the fill plug. A quick clean and that part of the job was done. Next was the rear diff. This was a bit of a pain as there is no drain plug, only a large fill plug. I tried a large syringe but it was taking way too long, so not wanting to be defeated, I grabbed the handheld vacuum bleeder. And I'll be, it worked a treat. Still slow because the waste fluid bottle is only about 100mls, but it flowed easily after a few pumps of the handle. After getting as much as I could out, which was about 10 bottles of gross, almost black, stinky fluid that had likely been in there since it was built almost 50 years ago, I filled it with about 1L of fresh new fluid. Once again, refit the fill plug, clean it off and done. Now that I had the driveshaft in, I could do something that hadn't happened in a VERY long time.... see if the driveline works. The first step was to install the pedal rubbers Mmm fresh. I did that now, because it's way easier to do without the seat installed, which was next on the list. What does having a seat installed mean? Sitting making vroom vroom noises of course! Then I fired the engine up, put it into gear, and eased the clutch out. It works! For the first time in 10-25 years, the hubs spun under their own power. Ignore the angry tractor idle, I really need to warm it up and give it a decent run, but I can't do that until we are out of the garage. So, when is that I hear you ask. Well, the wheels need to go off and be blasted and powder coated, and then the new tyres can be fitted. Once that's done, on the car they go, and the car can FINALLY come down off the stands it's been on since I got it. For now, I'll just be here reading my original Leyland Australia parts catalogue from 1975 Which is pretty handy really, since it shows me how things like the heater/vent ducting go together since currently it's all in a box and I had no idea. It's completely different to the Uk cars, and the heater box is actually the same as the Aus built Mini Clubman of the time. Soon. Â Â 20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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