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sounds the go aye will look something like this except being the early version 2tg

heh now now guys thanks for the offer, what kinda prices you lookin at selling the sc12 setup for? mongol: the smallport 4age has totally different head port size and 4 runner intake rather than the bluetop ~ red/blacktop TVIS 8 runner intake like my original post said.. ive decided either a carbd 2tg or carbd 4ag for the wagon since its my current daily driver. theres heaps of really good options available with turbo'd 4agze etc and i have a very good knowledge of the 4age differences thanks, but this car is only really a bum around hack to cruise to events, haul parts from da wrecker and drive to work in. no point in some crazy arsed turbo fandangled ball tearing head snapping whiz bang fart popping techo 4pot in there. i have a 4age'd (n/a efi) ke25 which runs consistant 15.7sec 1/4, std engine with pod and exhaust, single spinner etc. a friend tup in his std 2tg powered ke20 with lsd does low 16's. so the 4ag has a half second advantage. power/weight gains aside (coz im not really interested in that)... im more interested in the thoughts of others whether a 2tg transplant would be cooler than the 4ag? it's still going to go well enough for cruising round in. the 3.3 ratio diff's not going to help any races. the 2tg will be an easier conversion but the 4ag has more power so im neutral on which one. i'll have to make a carby intake manif for the 4ag anyways. im not going to turbo it since i have two other boosted projects. cars are fun too many hurts the pocket and yes like callum said, turbo 2tgeu is a bolt up and i have all the parts available. 4ag requires oil feeds, custom exhaust manif's and all that. interestingly im about to pull the 3tgte out of the ke70 (which i'd just replaced a couple weeks ago) to put a 2tgeu in for a wof. the neato part is i gonna see if it'll run on the 3tgte wiring and ecu with the 2tgeu injectors to make up for the reduced stroke of the 2tgeu. and for the hell of it since i'd have to change the exhaust to fit the 2tgeu n/a manifold, thinkin to whack a spare 3tgt manifold on it with a turbo and see if i can get away running with the wastegate disconnected and no compressor side plumbed up for wof. probly unlikely but worth a shot, but with the all the heat sheilds on it the turbo's pretty well hidden. then bodge up a front mount i/c for some low boost fun heh. well till i can be bothered chucking the 3tgte back in. oh and my last 3tgte was blowing up oil filters.. can only think theres an oil gallery blockage somewhere keep the ideas coming! cheers

mmkay.. not asking whats better so all things aside reguarding the conversion, power outputs and parts availability etc as i have both available and know the pro's and con's. the question is, what would be more appealing in an old rolla? the oldschool power of 2tg or the newer 16v 4ag? (if 'appealing' is the correct word) in a ke26 wagon to be precise to those not into toyotas... 2tg is a 1600 8v twincam with factory 40mm solex/mikuni's that were fitted to jdm te27 levins/trueno's back in 72-73, and other GT spec toys like the ta22 celica and ta12 carina. 4ag is a 1600 16v twincam efi out of an ae86, the last of the rwd corolla's, but would convert to running sideys like the 2tg, or some quad throttles on efi which'll take more work to get running obviously whats ya thinks?

k sweet as ive just picked up a 15/16 alloy master cylinder from an st206 celica which bolts up to the te71 booster so that should hopefully harden the pedal after i fitted 10" disks all round.. im eyeing up some gx81 11" struts at da mo so that master should be the shiz hmm that was random

i know someone doing up a 160j SSS in aucks. doing sr20de swap etc. can put u in touch if you interested?

hey callum i have a hillman remote booster i bought a while back and didnt use if you go that route how bout a brake upgrade and run boosterless?

from factory specs a 5k have more torque.. not power. which is better for acceleration in normal rpm range. so yeah a 5k would be a nice upgrade. i believe 3k-b has the most factory power. no 3k-b are not the only big port! alot of ke20 3k have a single carb bigport head. my factory 3k-b ('75 ke25) is a smallport twin carb... many variations aye. also swapping heads round willy nilly can bugger things up. there're many differences in the chamber design and piston dish. sometimes ya can end up with 13:1 compression or something stupidly low. later jdm 4k like after '83 have a twin squish head and dished pistons.. early ones have flat pistons and more cc in the head chamber... different pushrod heights.. yada ya. unless you know what ur doing.. then better off skimming the std head or getting a thinner gasket etc to up compression and maybe do some mild porting to get er flowing. imo first thing after a tune up (plugs, fluids, filters, cap, rotor, points, timing, blah, is replace the peeshooter exhaust with 1.3/4 - 2". put a foam or oiled filter on it and some cold air ducting from the front wouldnt hurt. electric fan. cams and heavier valve springs make some good gains after exhaust and intake done. and yeah raise compression. can upgrade carb to something slightly bigger. could lighten flywheel for some better acceleration.... the usual shit. speed cost money, how fast you wanna go?

ya need to upload the pic onto the web somewhere then in your profile put it in your avatar link ke2# rolla's have 4x110 studs unless its already been changed. there are some hotties with this stud pattern but it more common to find 4x114.3. rwd starlet 4x114 hubs are a bolt in swap but need keep original ke2 disk. ke3/ke7 hubs have larger inner bearing so need to have that bearing instead of original. inner seal may not fit on some. need to unbolt and smack the disk off to be able to pull studs out on the rolla's weird bout the hotties tho.. i had no probs fitting the 13x7 size?

how bout put a 4af into it... the narrow angle twin cam carby. mounts and box and all that will bolt up pretty easily and no efi to hassle ya... and the extra 100cc's and 16v should do well. one of my flatmates had 4af ae92 wagon and beat the other flatmates 100kw redtop 4age ae92 gt-apex yes we cracked up too coz the gt-apex flatmate thinks the world of it ha ha

hey man... there are differences in where the corners, headlight surrounds and grill etc attach. the front ends on 20's, 25's and 26's are all same thing depending on the year. i havent gone through every one of em and checked but generally 70-72 are similar (indicator corners) and 73-75 similar (separate indicator in guard). though usually you can make things fit. i could probly check for you the grill/headlight combination you want to try out as my ke25 and ke26 front ends are half disassembled currently