Roman

That 400hp cossie engine is a load of shite. It's alledged flywheel hp, so god knows what sort of power loss ratio they've put in. It looks like a grunty piece of kit though, no disrespect to it, I'm sure it's insane. just not 400hp insane. That's a fucken tall order from a 1.9 litre engine.

BTW my 2 litre engines (3SGEs) come with a 2.25" exhaust from factory, and I've got a TOMS exhaust manifold which is 2.5". 2" is definitely too small if you're looking to get some good top end power out of it.

the head on the engine in my Carina has had a porting job done when it was in Japan. when I took it to Lynn rogers, he said he was quite impressed with it, looked like a really good job was done by who ever did it. Big motherfucken open ports FTW

Even the Italians got it wrong big time though, since we are talking of gullwing style doors. The fact that if you crash in a Diablo or Contach and roll on the roof, you cannot open the doors is another literally, fatal design flaw.

I dont see this as being a big deal...

diablos etc have such a low centre of gravity, that if you did actually manage to put yourself in a position to roll one, you'd probably be going at such a speed that rolling the car would be the least of your worries.

Also, you're obliged to commit seppuku if you write one off, so it's no big deal if you die in the crash.

Edit: woops sorry I forgot I was posting on oldschool, what I meant to say was:

Boe this doesnt mean shit...

diablos etc are sacked out, they're bangin. if you rolled the cunt you would be fucked anyway, your speed would be off the chain.

what cunt would crash one though you'd want to kill your fucken self boe.

Just to be clear, I'm not criticising anyone that's got one, I was just curious as to why. As it's not something that I'm really into. I think I see where you're coming from though.

This is one thing that I dont understand.

Why are 'japanese automobile association' badges considered collectable/cool/etc? It doesnt seem like something that 'cool' japanese cars would have on them, if you're going for a japanese look/style.

I mean... isnt 'JAF' the AA for Japanese people?

Since when have things like the AA been cool?

It's like having someone in papa new ginea buying an AA badge, to make his NZ new KE70 look NZDM style or something..... No one here in their right mind would have a big AA sticker on their car.

I dont know if anyone else ever watches american hotrod?

But man, I cant help but LOL at the cars they build. I mean they're fucken awesome and all, but come on, non independant front suspension?!

And other things like that, which make me think that stuffing a big V8 into em isnt going to make them a whole lot more fun.

So is this all from the old guy with heaps of cars, from snoozin's thread?

I'd love to do a mish down and have a look around.

It turns out that when I lowered my car back down off the jack last time, the sump was actually sitting on the trolley jack. I thought it wasnt quite as low as it should be with those springs! lol. when I pulled the jack out, it sat at a much better looking height.

Hooray, now that's two out of two cars that I own, which are impossible to get a bloody jack under!

It also looks like my sump is going to sit slightly lower than my crossmember, which is 10 different kinds of gay. I might have to make a sump gaurd to protect it.

The only writing on the cam belt cover is '3SGE' and 'YAMAHA' down in the bottom corner, so yeah I'd say that it's still the case.

Aaaah no shit! Cheers that's awesome! I'll have a dig through.

Good stuff. That engine looks like it was meant for a SW20! Deffinately a good idea putting the tezza rocker cover (cover?) on it.

Nice extractors. Will those fit in RWD application or does the mount get in the way? Perhaps I might just heat wrap mine instead of trying to bling them up out of stainless.

Nah those are some TOMS extractors, they're currently on my SW20. They definitely wont fit on the Carina. Not to worry though, an altezza exhaust fits almost perfectly.

Basically I swapped over all of the goodies from that engine onto my other beams one, which is in the MR2. and then the one that I'm making RWD is a hodge podge of parts from various cars.

how much does one of those beams motors go for?

I bought my first one for $1500 when it was blown, but it included the stronger gen 5 SW20 gearbox with cusco LSD in it, TOMS extractors, HKS intake pipe, MR2 wiring loom, etc etc. Spent way too much rebuilding it though, lol.

I got my second beams engine (the one that's in the MR2 at the mo) for $1200, which was one from an ST202 celica. A mate was putting it into a tube framed KP starlet drag car, and was going to turbo it. I convinced him that it was a waste of time, and so he got a 3SGTE and sold me his old engine.

Good deals can be had if you've got your eyes and ears open, and are in the right time at the right place! I got offered another beams motor, an altezza one with 60,000kms for $1200, but I had to turn it down because I've already got too many damned motors! lol.

can you chuck up a pic of the whole car please

This is the car in its current state, lol.

It's definitely not as bad as it looks. Half of where the paint has been grinded off isnt because of rust, so much as because I suspected that there might be rust underneath. eg. some shitty bog work that had been done, where it had been dinged in the rear corner. Turns out it was fine though.

Here's what it looked like when I got it: (please note the massive ride height, ghey racing stripes, etc )

It will look sort of like this once it's done, and rid of the ghastly stripes etc.

(except with the twin square headlights, different wheels, etc)

Holly mother fucking BEAMS. Awesome man. Stoked to see this sorta stuff going on. I love Carinas and they seem to be getting pretty rare/all rusting to shit

lol! cheers. Yeah its hard to find good Carinas! I had to go to new plymouth to find mine! But it had been rust proofed all inside the gaurds etc, so is in really good condition. My spare parts car that I got was rusty as shite. Well I knew it was when I got it, but I was shocked at the difference between the two! Made me feel lucky to get one that was in such good condition to start with. (still a little rust to contend with though)

Its fucken funny though, because you NEVER see old carinas on the road in auckland, only newer FWD ones. I've only seen an old carina on the road ONCE! So it's LOL when I tell people I'm doing up a carina, they look at me funny and wonder WTF I'm thinking. I keep telling them though, have some faith! I'm not crazy.

damn thats probably the latest model engine on here! beams is 3sge isnt it?

It's actually a 'redtop' beams 3SGE engine, which came from a 1998 SW20 MR2. I bought it blown, and got it rebuilt at Lynn Rogers Automotive.

Fairly standard though, .5mm oversized pistons, port & polished head, balanced bottom end, and a few other things. It probably wont make any more power than a standard one, but it's a good solid base for further modifications, and should be a bit of fun hopefully.

I was originally intending to put it in my MR2, but then I got another beams engine which had 30,000kms on it, so I put that in the MR2 instead.

I've had this engine sitting on an engine stand in the garage for the last two years or so, and every now and then I'd scratch my head and wonder what to do with it. So I thought it would be fun to get an old RWD toyota to put it in! The Carina was the perfect candidate, because A: I like the look of them and B: They're so fucking easy to fit everything into!

Thankfully the 'FWD' beams engines can use altezza parts, so I bought an altezza sump, intake manifold and exhaust, and I was away laughing.

I swapped out the red engine cover for a grey Caldina one, because I dont think that the red suits being in an older car, and especially when it doesnt have the red intake manifold to go with it.

Here's a picture of what the engine looked like before I pulled off all of the bling red bits, and converted it to RWD:

Followed this on toyspeed (probably the only car I check that site for these days) looks mint gotta love the ease at which this projects gone forward its mint. Always wanted to beams something old and rwd ever since I saw one in a tezza engine bay

Aaah cheers, yep its been awesome so far! Everything's gone way too easily. Yeah I like the idea of keeping everything looking time period, but having more modern technology in terms of the engine etc. It should hopefully be a bit of fun when it's done. It's gotta be better than the 3AU and 4 speed anyway.

Cheers guys.

Personally I would have rather had a KP starlet, but the carina was the next best thing. I chose the Carina because its STUPIDLY easy to put all of this shit into, and a big mission into the starlet.

Everything has pretty much just dropped in place so far!

old motor:

new motor.

old wheels:

new wheels:

Old front struts/brakes: AA60 10" non vented

new front struts/brakes: AA63 Celica 10" vented, AE85 steering arms, revolver RCAs, king springs (for now ) random shortened shocks (for now) I'll most likely fit the SW20 twin pots up front at some stage, if I can be bothered. There's heaps of space under my wheels for grunty brakes, anyway.

Old gearbox: T40 4 speed

new gearbox: Altezza 6 speed

old radiator: leaky POS

new radiator: Altezza rad+twin electric fans+overflow bottle all in one.

Old rear diff: single spinner T series, 3.9 ratio

new rear diff: F series, with cusco 4.3 ratio LSD

Old status of car: Really good and reliable RWD toyota

new status of car: Rusty hunk of metal that isnt capable of moving under its own power.

Yeah I'd like to see it going this decade/century, but I make no promises and I'm not holding my breath.

non turbo SW20 MR2.

14.7 down the quarter.

125kw at the wheels.

Full track at taupo with chicane: 2m03.28

Full track A1gp style: 1m57.32

Times for my oldschool car:

It takes me about 15 seconds to push it out of the garage or back in, when necessary.

lol! codpiece.

I'm hoping to put some of these parts to use, some time this decade hopefully.

Just out of curiosity.

How much disposable income do you have, to put towards your car each week?

Current mods: Pulled the car apart so that it doesnt go anymore.

Future plans: make the car go again.

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