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  1. I fitted (well, actually it was Dad) an aerotech rear spoiled to one once, and I remember us commenting on how it was going to invite rust. If I were to do it again I'd just glue it on, no drilling of holes. I'm going to fit a stock 3 piece spoiler to my car, and that's the route I'll go for sure.

    Loving the progress :-).

  2. So good to get a bit of seasons holidays progress eh! Your video confused the hell out of me until I noticed the 'TURBO' on the cam cover was mirrored, lol.

    I'd give your main grounds a really good check and clean up. The stock starion battery ground cable goes from the battery negative down to a point on the body below the battery tray, and then onto a bolthole on the side of the block. Take all these off and scuff them up so you're getting really good metal to metal contact on them. Bit of resistence in there goes a long way to slowing a starter down, as well as getting really hot an making zee smoke.

    My experience with starters is pretty binary, they either work and crank like they should, or they dont work at all. When they crank slow I usually find the problem is somewhere else.

  3. I saw your security footage of it getting reversed into, fuck that hurt to watch, right in the feels, man.

    I'd go bronze on the wheels, but paint the lips nicely as well. Fully bronze wheel on a black car = winning. However, silver with polished lips would match the targa band quite nicely...

    I like the targa band, but I like weird shit :-).

  4. What is it you do to earn a crust?

    The rust repairs on your car are a work of art.

    I got an angry email from HR last friday. I'm a 'leave offender'.... As in I had too much stacked up. I'm now off till the beginning of Feb. Not all of it is holiday though, have some side hustle work booked in for Feb which will be nice.

  5. 27 minutes ago, Firebrand said:

    Looking good, the passivated hardware comes up so nice.  Maybe it's time I updated my build thread also since there's a bit of a trend going on around here at the moment.

     

    18 minutes ago, bigfoot said:

    Good to see more Starions/Mitsis appearing on here, almost tempted to put some of my lancers up

    DOOOO IIIIITT.

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  6. 32 minutes ago, kws said:

    Loving all the Starions around here recently. Such cool cars.

    Also keen to know how you get on with home plating, as its something i've been interested in for a while but there arent nice kits here like you get overseas.

    I bought one of the Caswell kits in from overseas for some stuff at work, and it's fricken expensive by the time you get it here! Plus, they cant actually supply the passivation solutions because they're DG's. I'm on contact with an industrial supplier up north, and they've given me a heap of material to read, just need to sit down and go through it all to figure out what we need :-).

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  7. Yeah, fuel tanks and parts for these are getting a bit unobtanium these days, they're prone to rusting out from sitting for so long. Get a flashlight and shine it down the openings in your tank and see what it's like. If it looks really rusty in there it might be worth a few calls to radiator repair shops to see if they can clean it out and re-coat the inside? It used to be radiator repair shops that did that anyway. There are some products you can buy to do it yourself as well, I've not given it a go, but it doesn't look super complicated.

    If you've got access to compressed air, I'd disconnect the fuel line going into the fuel filter in the engine bay, as well as the fuel return hose from the injection mixer and give them a little squirt to blow out any crap that could be in there.

    I've been working on an aftermarket solution for fuel level senders, as I keep seeing people needing them. I need to do a bit more work on it and some testing, but if you get desperate I've got an MB183926 sender (same as what you have) sitting here I'd sell.

    Although things look pretty rough from it sitting so long, it doesn't look like it's been played with too much in the past. Most of the original brackets, hoses, canisters and what not are still there, so that's a plus! Finding that stuff to put it back, or diagnosing problems when its missing is a complete ballache.

    You've been inspiring me to get some work done on my one, have been having heaps of fun, so cheers! :-).

  8. Ahhh, yeah, that just looks old and rusty, not mixed with oil which would be a bad thing. Your mate is right that its likely the water pump impeller rusting away :-).

    I got an email from HR last friday telling me I had too much leave and was against company policy.... So I'm now off till the first of feb. Have been doing some work on my Starion for once, which has been really, really enjoyable :-).

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  9. 91 is fine to get it up and running and cruise it around a little, but it'll knock for sure if you start to give it the jandal. They're a surprisingly easy motor to make knock, and it kills the factory ring lands on the pistons really easily as they're very thin. I'd go with 98 :-).

    When you say your coolant was chocolate, do you mean that it was just brown (rusty water) or it was more like a milkshake?

    Put up the some pics of the dizzy you got :-).

    The basic process to getting and engine to fire is to check it has air (compression), fuel (in a reasonable quantity), and spark (at the right time). An engine will show signs of life with a surprisingly wide tolerance on these three things. Most fuel injected stuff has diagnostic procedures which can be super helpful to figure out what is going wrong, but not your generation of Starion unfortunately. This is just a stepping stone to getting the engine started, as you'll probably be able to get it to fire relatively easily, but that will expose further issues to sort. It's all fun though :-).

    For a Starion in particular, this is what I'd do: (once you've got a dizzy in place, are you familiar with how to fit the dizzy and make sure it's timed correctly?)

    Fuel:

    • Remove the cross over pipe that connects the turbo to the intake manifold.
    • Get someone to crank the engine and see if you can see any fuel spraying out of the injectors. You can do this because Starions are throttlebody injected, having two injectors placed above the throttle plate, not an individual injector per cylinder. If you can see fuel spraying (should form a pretty fine mist), move on to checking spark.
    • If you can't see any fuel spraying, you've found a problem. Doesn't mean there aren't also many more problems, but this is certainly one!
    • Check there is actually fuel in the tank, easiest way to do this is just be chucking $10 in. Then you know.
    • Remove the fuel pump access panel in the boot. Passengers side, under the carpet. Single screw, probably sealed down with gum-tape stuff, pry it up nicely.
    • With someone cranking the engine, feel the fuel pump to see if it is vibrating at all, or making any noise. If it seems completely still, its not running for some reason. Tap it lightly (the housing it aluminium, don't dent it) with a hammer and try again.
    • If its still not running, its either a dead pump, dead MPI relay, or a wiring issue. How are you with a multimeter?

     

    • If the fuel pump is running, but no fuel is spraying, your injectors are likely at fault. They could be gummed shut from years of sitting (most likely), or they're not getting a signal (ECU or wiring fault). There isn't really a way to check them that doesn't involve pulling the injection mixer apart. You can connect and LED (make sure to get the polarity correct) to the injector wiring going to the injection mixed and see if the LED flashes when you're cranking the engine to check there is some sort of signal.

     

    • It's probably worth replacing the fuel filter (engine bay, passenger side, mounted down near the chassis rail) as a matter of course, but it's unlikely to be completely blocking fuel flow and stopping it from at least trying to fire.

     

    Spark:

    • Remove the cross over pipe that connects the turbo to the intake manifold.
    • Get a can of 'Start ya Bastard' from Repco / Supercheap.
    • With someone else cranking the engine, spray this down the intake manifold, stand a little way back, and not directly in line with the intake manifold opening. This stuff is much easier to ignite than petrol, so even a really weak spark will set it off. Usually there are three outcomes to this:
    1. The engine fires normally, tried to run, and then dies (this is what you want to happen :-) )
    2. There is a backfire through the inlet manifold and some fire comes out. This probably means your distributor timing is 180 degrees out, and you need to refit the dizzy correctly, and make sure the plugs leads are in the right place. Your factory service manual should have a good section on this, just make sure when you time the engine to top dead center on cylinder 1, its on the compression stroke, not the exhaust stroke. This is the second best outcome as it's likely to be an easy fix :-) .
    3. Nothing, just cranks and is dead as a doornail, Sad Panda.
    • In the case of option three, you need to completely confirm that there is no spark. To do this, remove the no.1 sparkplug. Re-fit it to it's ignition lead, and run a small crocodile clip from the ground strap of the plug to the battery negative post. Get someone to try and crank the engine while you watch the plug (rest it somewhere, don't hold it). Chances are you'll see nothing, confirming that there is no spark.
    • If there isn't a spark, I'd first check the coil. Using a multimeter, you can measure the resistance across it's two terminals. There will be a spec in the service manual for what this should be. If its open circuit, the coil is dead. Replace it with a 12V can coil for an electronic ignition system and try again :-).
    • If the coil checks out fine, you're into the realm of needing to scope signals and what not... Not insurmountable, but requires a bit more gear

     

    A couple of things to be aware of when you're reading diagnostic stuff on forums; Starions run a completely divorced injection and ignition setup. The ECU in the cabin controls the fuel delivery only, with the igniter box mounted to the inner passengers fender controlling the ignition. This stuff is from the beginning of the fuel injection era. It's actually pretty robust, but a little different to troubleshoot :-). Also, most testing I'd usually do with the cross over pipe connecting the turbo to the inlet manifold removed, so I can see the fuel injectors firing. The engine will fire like this, but probably wont continue to idle, as the air flow meter isn't connected to the intake manifold, so the amount of air entering the engine isn't known by the ECU. Once it fire and want to start, reconnect this and give it another kick in the guts :-).

    Fingers crossed you can time it up, fit a dizzy, plug it in and she at least fires up :-). They're actually pretty reliable old girls, so I'd be cautiously optimistic as long as it hasn't been to fiddle-fucked by previous people playing with it :-).

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  10. I've found him to be particularly painfuil to deal with, but there is a guy in NZ with a bunch of old Mitsy parts, Brett Campbell. If you join up the various Starion groups on the ol faeboes you'll see him posting quite often. Twice I've agreed to buy things from him though, and he wouldn't get back to me with shipping costs or more pictures or anything. I don't think he's dishonest, just disorganised? hah.

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