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^^ Yeah those numbers are too large.... And it looks like it's possible to get 200hp atw out of the new engine without doing any of that work. So that will have to do .

haha, I think it's my "modern day" 4 link suspension setup that gives it the edge over "antique racing"... As well as weight distribution and nice wide tyres. It does stop well too, with 300mm discs and big Wilwood superlight calipers.

Would have loved to have a go against you in the cortina if it had been finished .

I've tried but haven't had any joy yet.

Snow at Kiwi cams did my 4AGE ones a few years ago for $750, brand new billets machined to my specs. Thought that was reasonable! And it's the same amount of lobes for a 4age 16v and a Beams 3sge .

Yeah the CSL ones can keep VVTi, but they quoted $1800 for a set. Not sure if that's incl GST or not. Valve spring kit $688, Cam pulleys $540each..... Pricey. That's for 295in/285ex duration and 13.3/13mm lift.

Do you have an Email address for celica_ra45 spence?

Yeah have seen all of that man, but am trying to work through things my own way to see what happens.

Cheers for the encouragement UJ! My quickest time is still a 1:20.8 but in the later rounds of the winter series I was doing 1:21's on semi slicks... I think that's 1/2 decent for 150hp and 900kg. Never quick enough though!

If you could get a copy of that dyno sheet I'll be really interested.

Just got a the price for a set of cams from CSL... And it's nearly double what I expected so will definitely be going stock cams for now.

no 20v has vvti, they arnt PWM controlled, they are simply a on/off affair

VVTi uses a load vs RPM map to determine cam timing advance/retard. If you use a piggy back unit it must take in load to function optimally. If you just use RPM and tune it for WOT it will be inncorect at partial throttle openings out of corners etc.

I'm thinking about trying out Waynes idea, which was to use the stock ECU to run VVTi and the link as a piggyback for fuel and ignition. It means I'd have to run an AFM and have a spark return signal going back to the computer so it can figure out load/rpm... Not sure if it'll work but it's worth a try.

I haven't had the quote for cams and wheels back yet, but we'll see what comes from it.

Not sure where I'll go with it until all quotes for parts come in and I free up some more funds. 200hp is the target, and if that can be had without doing cams it would be nice.

I've got a few experiments to try out when we get the motor in there as well. Might still be possible to get the VVTi working without going to a g4... but it'll take some fiddling.

^^^ That is an awesome size.

Know if they bring them into NZ?

^^ Haha, awesome name.

course related costs

That! May even get a loan to live even though I'm at home for cheaps....

I'd love to go to a G4, but as I've already said it's just not possible at this point in time. Gathering funds to but the engine was hard enough, and that was much less than a G4 + Tune.

If it was my judgement call I'd say it was sweet.

Maybe someone should ring taupo to see if we can have a 2-wheeled parade lap?

Gay! Get an FA50 etc.....

would loan you my extreme .. but its waiting for my vvti uz to turn up and asimilate it

.... That will be fairly cool. Still in the lux???

^^ Makes them Doort more. All MX5 "tune up guides" say it makes SFA difference.

Ohh shit, how fast is that one???

And I was under the impression that scooters would be fine as a lunchtime demo/parade lap. Not an actual race, obviously .

Pretty amazing to have reviews like that from the likes of Kenny smith and international visitors... Sweet .

Did you soak the wrap in water before you tied it on there??? Works well to tighten it up/prevent itchy nut sacks.

Maybe we should organise to have a trailer of scooters heading from north and south of Taupo??? I'm sure there will be someone bringing a daily with tow-bar, and a spare trailer worthy of 10 scoots?

I'm thinking I'll chuck mine in a trailer behind the starlet....

Also, keen to see lambretta.

Hey everyone....

Since there are soo many scooters in OS now, especially FA50's, I think we should all try to muscle them to Taupo for Nats.

The main idea being a Lunch time demo/race for all 50cc devices to see who is the best at owning a 2 wheeled power-hog.

Prizes/respect/nothing for:

- Best dressed 50cc crusader

- Fastest Scooter

- Stupidest/best rider

- Most stylish ride

- Most creative scooter transportation (towing, on the roof, burt Munroe style etc)

- Smokiest 2 stroke

Who's keen?

Whole heartedly agree Spence... Glenn (?) in aussie said that using VVTi was worth 25KW and a lot of midrange on his race motor, which is not to be ignored.

Problem now is to try and rebuild this pulley, toyota list it as a non-serviceable part so there's no info on how to put it all back together .

Yeah it is a lot of coin eh... ^$1620+ gst for the G4 Storm, more for the xtreme. Which is way too much coin while I'm at uni - unless something amazing happens.

... I could do my setup the same as Roman's Carina, with quads going into an airbox running standard AFM etc - it's an option.

The other option would be to buy cams, disable VVTi and run adj cam pulleys... Seems to have worked quite well on other peoples cars - Brendan Dunckers Blacktop was supposedly 270 engine hp with standard bottom end, good cams and no VVTi.

Stock comp is millions of work... Will upgrade to G4 if I want to run it propperly - which will most likely happen. It would be ideal to have propper VVTi, 4 coils etc all going.

its the front bearing race different size as far as I remember, I had a measure up when mike-e had his spare head lying around.

This is correct... had a measure just before....

Which brings me to a new problem / new fuck up..... I pulled the VVTi pulley apart and now have no clue about how it's supposed to go together - 3 x helical gears to mesh and a big spring with a plate behind it... which also has adjustment. didn't realize until afterwards that the hex head on the outside was a plug, and that it all came off together.

Gah.

It's pretty cool though! Figured out how the pulley works with it's oil chambers and crazy gearing set up. Simple, yet complicated - but effective.

What'd you measure up against? They look fairly similar in pictures... It's a bit of an effort to remove to girdle for proper measurement though.

^ Yum.

Spence - what's different under there that won't let it fit? I haven't tried pulling the cam wheels + front bearing caps/cover off yet to have a decent look.

I've thought about things like that, and am going to do some experimentation, but will likely end up upgrading to G4 link.

I've also thought about whether the Gen3 cams will fit in the beams head... After a quick measure of the lobes and bearing caps it seems possible, but I haven't pulled enough off the beams to be able to measure the whole cam. If that works I'll run no VVTi and adjustable cam pulleys for now.