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last year had 75 cars + non oldschool. just counted about 40+ on this thread. prob get 10 from club-k, 5 from zclub , 10 from datsun.co.nz then passengers and peeps that dont post. but we've never had semi wet forecast either and not everyone eats/drinks. if the people that have shown interest actually get there then we're good. but i'm not much of a gambler.

mmkay ferguson will only open if they can do 11am - 2pm with a minimum $500 in sales or it not worth it for them. thats kinda getting borderline if we get a drenching and only 30 peeps hit the bar. what to do argg

hope those mobile bbq's are sorted out! would be pretty gut wrenching eh. thumbs down to anyone who pulls out the marshmellow on a stick. still waiting on confirmation from fergusons. cant get through to em. ive even offered to cover costs if numbers aren't sufficient.

aight so we got some mobile bbq's coming

yup yup. do NOT byo. for the sake of the event's reputation!! zep- yes that was the gist of it. but there are other options for those not wanting booze

who said you had to buy alcohol a pizza and a coke would do me fine

yay got in touch with Andrew at the Ferguson. If they open up he needs to generate enough income to make it worth while to cover staff costs etc. Food is not a major income earner though. Will hear back soon from him, but basically if we get bar open, we'd ask that people support the venue by at least grabbing a drink or food or both. good idea or nah? menu here http://www.theferguson.co.nz/menu/

had someone tell me about this.. smear it on, wait for it to dry, wipe it off. then repeat. cant remember if it was shampoo or conditioner. never tried it myself so can't confirm. my heater works oh and about 'The Ferguson' bar. I can't get hold of Andrew, the guy that runs it. he doesn't answer his cell or the business phone. doesn't reply to txt and his email that was given to me bounces back. so if anyone knows a way to get in touch with him please do so. I can be contacted on 0274998874 or possibly 0274998875 on the day if phone dries out in time. Looks like BBQ lunch at this stage. who's got an easy up

car boot sale sounds cool. bare in mind there may be some showers on the day. keep an eye on forecast http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland

meet open to anyone. There will be an 'oldschool parking' and 'non oldschool' park for spectators. probly use the larger tier by the bush as the oldies and the smaller one near the front as non oldies. look out for budget as vivid on cardboard signage any signwriters in auckland want to hook us up? I got some ideas

Theres also the people that don't live online and rock up to meet and there's a byo bbq they didn't know about. so yeah wont suit everyone. do it anyways but still lookin into the fergusons

ive got 3 burner oven bbq that fits in my wagon with seats forward. management said it's ok to bring bbq. Thought it be easier to rock into the bar n grab a pizza and a cold drink thats all. if we gots bbq, who's prepared to drive it? coz i know from last times we too busy talking/lookin cars

parking 1C, 1D and 1E outside the ferguson

ok, Ferguson bar next to the carpark looks like a nice place to quench thirsts and fill stomach's. http://www.theferguson.co.nz/ But are peeps interested in some sort of lunch? (on site) instead of disappearing at lunch time? website says they do pizza's and hot food etc. and plenty of cold drinks i'm contacting now in reguards to this. we'd likely have to confirm sufficient numbers to go ahead like at bellagio's. i've also been informed The Massimo Café will open from 9.30am but it's a couple blocks away. http://www.caffemassimo.co.nz/index.php ... &Itemid=60 ps: Anyone from Tauranga interested in bringing a pair of starlet rear doors up to aucks? i can help with your petrol costs. please PM me

massey uni given the nod. 10am til 2pm sound good? Massey Uni Carpark - Albany - Auckland http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&q=massey+uni&ie=UTF8&t=h&sll=-36.73331,174.703493&sspn=0.001528,0.002411&rq=1&ev=zi&split=1&radius=0.08&hq=massey+uni&hnear=&ll=-36.733132,174.703496&spn=0.001528,0.002411&z=19 same place as recent NZPC hardpark meet. http://www.performancecar.co.nz/news-59 ... ardpark-12

oh hey! damn this came up fast. soz my puter died and I bought a new mtn bike instead, and yeah on holiday oops. im keen to try out massey carpark.. somewhere fresh. nzpc meet sounds like it went well. just forgots to lock it in. ringing tomoroz!!

Haha the most disorganised person ever, yet manage to get a yearly meet happening. aiight i ring some places.... oh ACJS race meet on the sunday at Pukekohe for those interested. http://www.acjs.co.nz/

locaton not set. was asking for suggestions. quite a few to choose from now. setup vote or just pick one and go with it?

madmac's youtube. if only i could get the keys to that...

any updates on this? surprised there be no mention of where the throttle is positioned. will make a big difference to how it operates. throttle before the sc is safe option. and does not necessarily require a bypass valve due to sc operating in a vacuum. the ABV you see on toyota sc12/sc14 are there to create an on/off boost transition when the charger is switched and gives better efficiency when transitioning off boost (but charger on). using these factory fitted abv in a setup that has throttle after sc may be too restrictive of air flow and could allow the s/c to create boost when throttle is shut. So it should be pointed out that in any setup with throttle after a positive displacement charger (roots), the setup MUST use a recirculating valve big enough to reduce pressure back close to atmospheric if you want any sort of reliability and economy when not boosting. not to mention extra noise created from the pulses being pushes through a restriction. not using one could be catastrophic due to bent/broken throttle shaft. roots + restriction = pressure. if you're lucky you'll pop a hose off. Funny how people without one complain of belt slipping or black dust around the drive belt. put throttle before roots and its not an issue. A traction control butterfly could be an option for a bypass valve (throttle after sc) as they're often stepper motor controlled so long as you have the electronics to drive one. need to check it's air tight when closed. The intake vacuum valve on a diesel could be an option. these are often operated via a diaphragm or stepper motor. not all types are air tight though. A poppet valve ie 'external wastegate' are suitable so long as the diaphragm is large. The diaphragm has to overcome the spring pressure that's holding the valve shut. these are probably the most common valve used like in the HKS 4agze twincharge kit. a BOV are not suitable due to their sudden release of air. (uncontrollable). don't know about you guys, but i'd get pretty annoyed driving that orange twincharged volvo powered Kadett. The amount of charger noise that thing makes is horrible. Looks like he's running a parallel system blowing into a flapper valve with throttle after chargers. one of the very few! (never saw the logic in this compared to a series setup). and yes roots chargers make noise. factory setups don't usually use gilmours! The factory toyota setups are not too noticeable in noise due to them having the throttle before the charger. this effectively muffles the pulses eminating from the charger at partial throttle position and reduces how much air is actually being pumped when throttle is shut (running in a vacuum).. so reduces the medium for noise to travel. BUT swap the charger in front of the throttle and you have a direct noise path back up the intake. have any restriction after that charger and noise is more of an issue. The noise is most likely to come out of the recirculation system after the charger. The twin lobe roots chargers are pretty much the worst for creating inlet pulses. Toyota used an expansion chamber on the 2tzfze sc14 to reduce noise. search youtube for the sc 5k ke70 or ke35. borrrrrrrrrrr There is an artical in think on autospeed.com about supercharging a prius for the author's missus. They tried various ways to baffle,muffle, suppress noise. The outcome was it was eventually canned due to noise. maybe not a consideration as a sprint/gymkhana car but i'd get pretty annoyed if it were a daily driver. (i'd compare it to open wastegates or fart cannons on auto vtaks). [insert puke face here] one of the best sources of twincharge info imo is the eng-tips.com forum. see comments by 'warpspeed'. one insane car to come out of this is Donald's black evo5 twincharger in scotland or up that ways. user 'madmac666' or 'evomadmac' on youtube. his build thread is http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=315815. impressive to say the least. Interesting to note that in his compound charged system, heat was an issue. this was rectified by balancing the system and better efficiency from the charger. ok nuff said. me like this subject. one day this will be done and i'll have my own experience on the subject... http://toycrazy.net/mark/KE25engine.htm

discussions! mean can peeps put up links to these places? massey carpark looks pretty good aye. not too far out of town. trees for shade. http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=q&sourc ... 6&t=h&z=19 can't guarantee no dipshits will show up and do a skid au. its a car meet. pity, but thats how the cookie crumbles. won't book a venue thats overly anal about behavior. it'll backfire on us sooner or later

yeah 22nd it is.

yeah usually get complaints that people still on holiday. but would make a great end of holiday for those going back to work on the 10th like myself.

there ya go! tho I do see a problem with numbers this time. ie in the past there have been around 30-40 cars attending which we've managed to fit in. the last new year meet at bellagio's I counted 75+. we'd have to spread across both the BBQ and the other side of round about which is poos. i hate walking.

sweet.. 22nd jan looks promising yeah bellagio's was a bit of a scorcher Cornwall, its a public park. first in first served i believe? there's a member on here who knows the land owner but nothing came of trying to get access to a paddock from memory. we could always start earlier and overrun the place heh. can't see the BDO boes getting there on time tho definately bring bbq's haha. fail on wood burning bbq ryan, i drove through that area recently and yeah theres plenty of carparks.. very little shade tho. will investigate more.. snoozin, im of the same opinion. but i'll give the oldschool boes one this time and see how it works out. (this could change if they don't give a fack).