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I'm keen too. Pm Me if a spot opens after the others of course.

Wow- first Panda Ive seen here since coming back to NZ.  We often stayed at a campground at the top of Lake Garda, Italy when over there for a bike race. Every year I would witness the same beat up old 4wd Panda getting ragged up and down between the olive groves. It was so cool and I wanted one ever since. Not long after my brother bought a new 4wd Panda in Bristol but its shit compared to the old ones. Just nothing like them.

 

You are a lucky fella for just having a Panda.  At least yours sort of looks 4wd.

 

Oh and your Gulf racing scheme looks so sweet!!!

Cheers bro! Yeah I'd really love to have 4wd version. But I'll take what I can get! 

Every now and then a Fiat Panda will pop up on trademe. Just gotta get your search favourites set up

This is awesome. Nice photo's too! Looking forward to the summer rides.

What happened to this beast.

I'd love to get an uno turbo one day. OR Just get the engine and fit it to my Fiat Panda. Would be super fun.

Thanks guys, 

My dream is to one day own a 4wd panda!

Yeah a 4WD one would be the best! I think a guy Mal owns two of them down  south somewhere.

 last time i was in one of these it was pre- license days in a friend's one driving through flax to get on a school field for skids. terrible skids.

tales of interest..

he treated it a bit rough, and had what looked like RWD offset minilites on it. then a wheel broke off while he was driving on the road. not sure what exact part failed.

they can do jumps at the skatepark, refer to previous comment

the dash 'bag' looked a lot like an almost-finished roll of wallpaper

the mirrors have convoluted mountings, they look flexible but are the opposite. i had to pay for the one i broke off while trying to adjust the mirror, goddam

 

he may still have a flap-top one of these in the shed in greytown but i havent seen this guy in years.

Haha gold. This one is nearing 300,000kms I'll get it there. Pretty peppy for how old it is.

I hope the same part doesn't fail on mine!

Let me know if you ever get in contact with the old mate and he's got the panda lying around.

Cheers,

Whoops realised I didn't start up a discussion thread. Here it is.

//oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/48111-clown-dogs-1989-fiat-panda-mkii-1000s-discussion/

Whoops forgot to make one of these.

If anyone knows any Fiat Panda's parting out, let me know. I'm always on the hunt for new or better condition parts

Also wave hi if you see me driving around Auckland. Build Thread : //oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/37753-1989-fiat-panda-mkii-1000s/

-Isaac

I haven't checked in for awhile.

This is a while ago now, but the shocks were pretty tired when I bought it. So I made some friends in Italy and managed to get some Bilstein shocks in.

More recently I managed to stumble across some new shoes.

With the Fiat being 4x98, there isn't much out there. So I had to make it work.

Bit wide really, but oh well. It's fun.

Put some tyres on.

Rolled some guards

And it pokes a lot.

I know I should probably lower it. But I don't want to for now. Having one slammed car is enough.

Nice having a raised daily driver.

Future plans include going two tone like the original Mk1 Pandas.

That's all for now.

do you have a pic of the hub? does it not sit flat on the flat bit where the bolt holes are?

 

you could get another ring made to fit in there and take up the difference? cost might be similar to welding. although welding seems a bit dodgy? who quoted you to weld and machine back?

I've only got this pic on me.

Quote to weld was from Bruce at Brugar engineering. He's a wizard and If he's doing it, it will turn out nice.

I also have to get the shank bolts (showed above) milled down as the shank is about 1mm too wide.

Ok, I'm not sure what to do now.

To fit the wheels they will each need to be welded, because for some reason they have a tapered centre bore.

So when I use my spigot rings to fix the difference in centre bore the wheel doesn't sit on the hub due to it not having a flat mounting surface.

See pictures.

Without spigot ring.

With black spigot ring

I have had a quote for $90 a wheel to get them welded and filled in to make it flat again.

But not sure the wheels are worth spending another $360 on....

Any suggestions?

Picked up some. They are a bit wide at the top. and a bit shorter which is what I needed.

Might need to bore out the wheels to fit the slightly bigger shank though.

Pics for comparison.

Thanks guys for your help!

HOLY FUCK NO

 

DO NOT USE ALLTHREAD/THREADED ROD

 

jesus guys, that stuff is made of monkey metal. of all things that need to be made of proper decent high tensile and high fatigue life steel wheel bolts and studs are number one!  if you can buy the proper shank bolts do that. otherwise use proper studs that are made for the purpose with a unthreaded section that bottoms out into the hub + high strength loctite.

So I got a reply from Davie Motors.

"Hello

        Well we have something, the closest one we have is:

 Part# TM441 (chrome finish)

   Hex Head Length  22mm

   Shank Length       18mm

   Thread Length       25mm

   Wrench Size         21mm

   This bit you may not like, the threaded part is actually separate and can

be unscrewed, can supply a longer threaded part which would give you

44mm of thread. (obviously these would need to be threadlocked in!)

"

That last bit. Is it still safe?

Here is the Catalogue... http://www.davie.co.nz/?id=202

^ bad idea, as even 'proper' bolt-to-stud conversions are shit, but to make it less bad i would locktight/molten metal the allthread into the shank nut (to make a shank bolt) as there is way more thread to catch (20mm on a nut vs about 12mm for the hubs)

 

Also they are Ward Atlas, so will polish up real nice.

 

Good to see some photos of the Panda,  Mr C Dog!

 

Gonna put some flares on that and ddrop it?

Agreed. I want it safe. Not dodgy. The place recommended above are already in contact with me so hopefully find the right stuff soon!

Yeah was thinking flares and some PI springs for a 40mm drop.. Will need to buy overseas. Would love coilovers like my other car but there's nothing off the shelf available and I don't want to have to cert it.

For reference. I stretched 135/70/r13 onto a 6j wide wheel.

This is what it looks like.

It was my spare tire. Thought it was a 155 which is what I'll go with as then I can just swap my current tyres.

This is hopefully what I'll end up with

I'm more worried about the fiat panda you sicko lol

 

/keen for a panda van tbh they are awesome haha

Haha yeah they are! Pretty sure it's just a different boot that you attach to turn it into a van.

Wish mine was a 4x4 though

At least it has the 5speed and twin sunnies!

Plz polish them until theyre gleaming when you do eventually put them on. Also ask your tyre guy to put the weights inside the rim.

Ohhh yeaaah tridents.

Haha that's the plan.

I know I don't know who thought it was a good idea to put the weights there. Sigh.. Will get that fixed when the tyres go on.

wards or tidents?

Honestly, not sure. Look like ward atlas... but no real name markings.

Heres a pic on a rough test fit. Fiat panda FTW.

I know I know. Poke and stretch. 

I'm a bad person.

these guys http://www.davie.co.nz/

 

Are the stockists for these http://www.niceproducts.com.au/catalogues/wheel/bolts.php

Yuss! The man. Cheers bro.

Holy shit alright - I've never seen a camlobe that worn before and I worked on a lot of vehicles over 15 years..

Sounds like you are on the right path but I feel there will be some reason for excessive wear like that - a blocked oil gallery would be my best guess.

It makes me wonder if its been like that from factory and the head may have an oil gallery not fully drilled or blocked by swarf from brand new...

Is it it just those 2 camlobes or the whole lot?

Those two were the worst. From memory only one looked like a normal cam lobe.

Well I am hoping there isn't some other underlying problem. But you may be right. I just want it all to work for the girlfriend so she can practice and get her restricted license.

Not sure to be honest, always had oil since we've used it. Was bought from an old lady who used it to and from the shops now and then. Very low Km's. Had been lacking power since we got it but progressively got worse. And the pictures give the reason haha.

Engine is an EN1, I've got a box of spare cam shafts, also some re-faced rocker arms.

I've done heaps of EB/EN engine work, would be more than happy to fix this one up as a cashy. Let me know if you are interested. Cheers, Matt.

Cheers for that Matt.

We already have our mechanic working on it for a good price.

Sourced a new cam from kiwi cam and we are getting the rocker arms re-faced as I type this.

I took some pics of the cam shaft and rocker arms to show the damage.

Hopefully this little gem will be able to get up to 100Km after this is sorted.

Worn cam shaft

Worn rocker arms

I really like this, nice effort bro! You still in Auckland? Will have to keep an eye out for it.

Here is all I have at the moment,