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Gave this thing a bit of a thrashing at work this afternoon. I never realised how annoying the exhaust sounds from outside the car! Will do something about that ASAP.

 

Have just been reading your build thread, really really enjoying seeing someone put some development time into one of these engines.

 

Did you ever manage to find a rocker arm? I've got many if not, and I'm local(ish) .

Unfortunately, not really. It's not super secret or anything, but as it's a competition, we never really released any details about it till it was unveiled at the end of October... so no build-thread type stuff .

 

Lots of pics here though:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vax4j5nm8q74eow/AAALvwcgwovN6j5PZzl88YH_a?dl=0

 

Credit to Toby White for the photos. He's a talented man .

 

There was some video coverage of the event, available on YT now:

 

Saturday Morning: 

Saturday Afternoon: 

Sunday Morning: 

Sunday Afternoon: 

I _was_ wearing a hoodie, which is a new development in my life... The hood was down, but my ears did get the itch, that maybe they should be covered up... Should I be worried?

Hah! Is it also a series 7?

Put it on my tab! #ThugLife!

 

(I'm actually a pussy and have already paid it online so I can forget it ever happened)

Ha! Got a boost guage on the thing?

Not yet mate. I have an old one knocking around somewhere though that I'll throw in to check on things. You can definitely feel the second turbo though, really takes of once that things gets going!

Tell you what, I'll go hard at uni over the next few days, and If I can get the race spec loom built and done, and my embedded software report done for it's friday due date, then I'm in .

It could have been the plugs, and if it was I'd say that's the way it was when Brad got it. It could also have been a bunch of other things, definitely not worth dwelling upon. I did about 50k's in it this afternoon, and apart from the high idle (around 1500rpm) with a slight burble, it's been faultless . Oil pressure was great and temp was rock solid (although the factory temp gauge is shit-house, I'll have to de-linearise it). The thing is so damn responsive it's hard to keep out of boost. I just want to keep driving it, but I've had to come to uni to get some work done... Still, I live about 35 minutes from uni, so I've got the drive home to look forward to .

 

I think I'll tidy it up further, fix a bunch of interior squeaks and rattles and enjoy it for a couple of weeks.... But the (hopefully tasteful) mods are coming

So can't wait for the "Fuck yeah. Skids on" update to this thread.

Have been watching with interest and awe of your skills right from the start.

Well , right from when I was pinning over a white fd for sale for fuck all, actually.

So glad I didn't get all excited and buy it, would have thrown a right tanty over the complexity of it's many problems.

 

Cheers dude, but my skills are nothing to be in awe of, it doesn't run yet, hah! I'm sure someone more familiar with these cars could have had it going in a couple of days, but it's been a hell of a lot of fun learning about the systems surrounding the motor, not to mention rotary engines themselves. I've pretty keen to keep an eye out for a motor with low compression to tear apart and have a play with on the bench.

 

Really want to get it going and on the dyno so I can do some logging on the twin turbo system, and really crack that side of it open. Would love to get it working properly on an aftermarket ECU. I'm sure switching to a single would have many benefits over this approach, but I just reckon it'd be fun to do. Plus, If I can get it working on a megasquirt, I'm sure there are plenty of other people out there that would like to do the same.

 

My connector research is almost complete for the base ecu->engine loom. Just the idle air control connector, the coil connectors, and the body loom connectors under the dash. I suspect the coil and IAC connectors are from the same manufacturer as the pins look the same. The body loom connectors look pretty familiar too, I'm just waiting for my mind to click to where I've seen them before, I can feel it working away. Then I'll get some nice Tefzel wire from MSEL and build a nice easy to work with loom for it . I found the ECU connectors too, so if I do ever change the ECU I can build the new one with the right connectors so it's plug'n'play.

 

It's back together enough to start, need to change the oil and plug the ECU back in, then I can see if it runs. Cross your available appendages for me!

Some info for my reference later on.

 

Coolant Temp Connector:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-178449-6.html

 

Fuel Temp Connector:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-178449-4.html

 

Fuel Vapour Purge, Wastegate Control, Turbo PreControl and Turbo Control Solenoids, Intake Air Temp Connector:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174352-2.html (Housing)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174353-7.html (Insert)

 

Coil Loom to Body Loom Connector:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174259-2.html (Housing) (Coil Loom Side)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-1-174260-1.html (Insert) (Coil Loom Side)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174257-2.html (Housing) (Body Loom Side)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174258-7.html (Insert) (Body Loom Side)

 

Oil Metering Pump Loom to ECU Loom Connector:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174657-2.html (Housing) (Oil Metering Pump Side)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174658-7.html (Insert) (Oil Metering Pump Side)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174655-2.html (Housing) (ECU Side)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174656-7.html (Insert) (ECU Side) (Original is White, but they only seem to be available in Yellow)

 

Knock Sensor Connector:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174877-2.html (Housing) (ECU Loom Side)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174878-7.html (Insert) (ECU Loom Side) (Original is White, but they only seem to be available in Yellow)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174879-2.html (Housing) (Knock Sensor Side)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-174880-7.html (Insert) (Knock Sensor Side)

 

Seals for above connectors:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-172746-1.html

 

Contacts for above connectors:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-171662-1.html (Female) (16-20 AWG)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-171630-1.html (Female) (20-24 AWG)

 

 

 

NE and G Eccentric Shaft Position Sensors, Air Pump Connector:

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61950003

 

Throttle Position Sensor Connector:

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61950030 (Appears to be obsolete, but still available non-genuine)

 

Injector Connector:

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61950043 (Appears to be obsolete, but still available non-genuine)

 

Contacts for above connectors:

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=81001428 (14-16 AWG)

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=81001429 (18-20 AWG)

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=81001427 (22-24 AWG)

 

Seals for above connectors:

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=71650210 (1.1-1.5mm Diameter Cable)

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=71650118 (1.5-2.0mm Diameter Cable)

http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=71650119 (2.0-2.9mm Diameter Cable)

 

 

 

Solenoid Rack Connector:

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7223-5526&plist=list&select=05

 

Contacts for above connectors:

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7116-2640-02&plist=list&select=05

 

 

 

Coil Connector:

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7283-8226-30&plist=list&select=XX

 

Contacts for above connectors:

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7116-4026&plist=detail&select=XX (16-18 AWG)

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7116-4025&plist=detail&select=XX (20-22 AWG)

 

Seals for above connectors:

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7157-3648&plist=detail&select=XX (16-18 AWG)

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7157-3821&plist=detail&select=XX (20-22 AWG)

 

 

 

ECU Connector:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-316019-6.html (28 Position)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-316016-6.html (22 Position)

 

Contacts for above connectors:

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-175265-1.html (18-22 AWG) (Tin)

http://www.te.com/usa-en/product-175266-2.html (18-22 AWG) (Gold)

 

 

 

 

[Editing this as I go to keep it all in one place]

http://www.eastwood.com/mityvac-silverline-elite-test-hand-pump-kit-mv8500.html

 

They're not actually as expensive as I thought. Might have to pick one up myself.

Where did you get your vac / pressure tester from?

 

I've borrowed it from Uni, will have to get it back to them next week. It's one of these though:

 

http://mityvac.com/

 

Seems like a damn good unit, being able to do both pressure and vacuum is so damn handy!

A link would certainly be a good option, and I considered it pretty hard, but they can't run the sequential turbo system out of the box, so a single turbo conversion comes along with that decision. I'm pretty sure I'd be able to get either a Link or a Megasquirt to run the sequential system, but I'd have to do a bit of datalogging to confirm when all the valves and what-not switch... And this required a running car . Most of the information on how to do it is in the USDM Series 6 FSM though. It's pretty tempting to give it a go at some stage, as I havent been able to find any info on people getting the sequentials going on a non-power-FC ECU... But it can;t be that hard, because the power FC can do it!

 

I'm on the hunt for another series 7 loom, as I really really dont like how hard the factory one is to work with... Where they have branched and routed things seems to make no sense, except form a budget point of view. I'll try and collect all the plugs I need, see if I can source new pins and re-build one I think, with decent covering, keep it small and route it more logically.

 

BUT, the loom that I have will get it running I hope. It's all in there and plugged in, just a bit more plumbing and finishing to do, then I can see if it goes. Fingers crossed? I've also just realised that I forgot to install the check valve in the secondary air system, so I have to remove that valve body and put that in, which requires moving a bunch of other stuff first, whoops!

Squeezed in a couple more hours today.

 

Got the oil injection valves plumbed, They've got check valves built into them (which I've just realised I've forgotten to check!), the plumbing on them is just for evaporation emission purposes I believe. Added in the line which goes to the fuel pressure reg control solenoid too, as I won't be able to get to it later.

 

 

I got the injectors in place, the solenoid block mounted, and started plumbing that in. I'll have to un-bolt it to get the loom in place, but the lines have enough flex to let me leave it plumbed up.

 

 

 

All the old vacuum lines. A few of them are cracked, all of them are super hard and brittle.

 

 

Air box and turbo inlet plumbing back in. I made sure to remove the rags from the turbo inlets! I got a replacement secondary turbo inlet pipe locally, guy had the check valve for the pressure chamber too, score .

 

 

It's *possible* I might be able to start it up again tomorrow. I need one new belt as I stuffed one getting it off, and one of the HT leads was in not too great shape, so I might try to track down another set of those. I don't think I'll re-wrap the loom quite yet, as I could yet still have issues. It's not a major to get it out again and wrap it anyways .

Dammnit man, sold plan.

Did a bunch of Uni work at home today, so split some time to work on this for an hour or so aswell.

 

Tested the Turbo Control Actuator, on the pressure side, functioned correctly. I tested the vacuum side too, didn't climb under the car and actually observe the valve, but the line did hold vacuum.

 

 

Plumbed up the actuator side of the metal pipe manifold that feeds the Charge Relief system.

 

 

Installed and plumbed in the Charge Relief Valve.

 

 

Updated my vacuum port reference map.

 

 

Will hopefully get a bit more time after dinner to have a further play, can hopefully get the injectors installed, secondary air system back together, Air Bypass Valve (blow off valve) installed and start in on the solenoid block. 

Wasn't really tired when I got back from uni in the wee hours this morning, so spent some time in the garage. Once again, this post is more for my reference than any actual progress.

 

Air Bypass (Blow Off) and Charge Relief Valves both tested and functioning correctly.

 

 

Vacuum Tank tested and held vacuum fine.

 

 

Pressure Tank tested and held pressure fine.

 

 

Check Valves that goes inline with the Pressure Tank is fucked, will need to source another.

 

 

Airbox to Turbo Intake accordian pipe is fucked, will need to source another.

 

 

Figured out how the Secondary Air Injection system is routed through the manifold.

 

 

Tested the Secondary Air Injection unit and is functioning correctly.

 

 

Tested Deceleration Control Dashpot and is working correctly, however will need to be set once the car can be run to normal operating temp. Cold start system looks like it's bee played with, set to somewhat logical settings, but will need to reset once car can be run and warmed up.

 

 

Tested both Wastegate Control and Turbo Precontrol Actuators, both hold pressure and function correctly.

 

 

Tested Charge Control Actuator and it's functioning correctly.

 

 

Just need to test the Turbo Control Actuator now, but its a pig to get at, will jack car up and get at it tomorrow. Started re-running vacuum lines, but really need to remove the secondary turbo intake pipe to get to a couple of the barbs, will also do that while car car is jacked up.

Some of what I put up here will just be reference for me, so when it's back together, and has issues, I can look through and hopefully find the cockup .

 

Fuel Vent Plumbing:

 

 

As far as I've gotten tonight with the on-car side of the vacuum plumbing:

 

 

Dinner time now, so an end to the fun for the day.