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35 minutes ago, tortron said:
so you have 2 things going on here
add weight to the panel to stop drumming i.e dynamat stuff on wheelwells, flat panels
but then you also want something to absorb the sound so you want to use something like automotive underlay or a dense closed foam sheet product
if you have stuff rattling you use thinner foam sheets or fabric tape
dynamat will help with tinnyness, give the doors a nice thunk when you close them, but you gotta have something else as well to help with muffling noise
Thanks mate. I've got everything going on. Rattles, noise, heat. I figure Kilmat, Dynamat or whatever will be step one of a few. But thanks, good to know it's going to need help with muffling sound. Cheers
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39 minutes ago, dmulally said:
I travel long distances in my van. I used kilmat, el cheapo and dynamat.
The best results I got were from heavy shagpile carpet in the empty deck area and over the doghouse I put some thick beach towels folded up. Being a commer, I can't put fitted carpet as I need to get into the engine bay frequently.
Where did you get those wing mirrors? I love them.
Great advice. Thanks mate. Mirrors are cheapies. Check out West Coast Jr on eBay or amazon. They're already starting to rust but I'll paint them anyway, too shiny for this old thing. The arms have been shortened up a lot as they were a risk to pedestrians and cyclists! Only half joking...
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Morning.
Finally got the right stickers on my old van and next job on the list is going to be doing the window and door rubbers and sound deadening/insulation to make the drive a little less like sticking your head in a concrete mixer.
See Kilmat comes up a fair bit on here via Amazon but lots of people are still building their stuff. Any feedback from a before and after perspective using it?
Because my motor sits between the front seats I'll prob go real thick Dynamat on the doghouse but I'll need another mortgage to do the rest of the tin can in that. So price wise Kilmat looks less painful.
Cheers!
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And I thought you were just annoyingly talented when it came to bolting cars together...
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Nice work. Pitch the 'investment' angle!
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Busy as with work but still chipping away/hurting the credit card when I can.
Bomba aka Kenny and Nick kindly came around and helped get the grill in place. Was recommended to do it without masking tape being fresh paint and all, which I thought was going to be a pain but went into place pretty easy. Every bit of chrome and stainless going back on makes such a difference and there's still heaps to go.
Pulled apart side mirrors to get chromed and new glass cut but on closer inspection they weren't original so wasn't worth the expense. Hit eBay for some repro King Bee mirrors which are nicer and cheaper in the long run anyway. Dusted off some engine dress up bits which have been patiently waiting on the shelf and drained the stale gas out of the tank. And that's about it. Waiting on my stainless for the hood and trunk and skirts which are getting paint where applicable, then will get visor and mirrors mounted.
My tyres are still annoying me too. They're about 3/4" - 1" too thin on the whitewall for the look I want. Which is going to be an annoyingly expensive fix but it's going to keep bothering me. So let me know if anyone is in the market for some near new 205/75r15 Coker radials.
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Been crazy busy at work so not a great deal of progress being made, but been hitting the chrome and stainless with metal polish and jamming it back on the car bit by bit. Also got my grill back from Bumper Replacements in Auckland. Really nice job and had a fair bit of rust on it before so the difference is just massive.
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Bloody lowriders.
Looks rad Kenny. Love these.
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Well, at last I have a large grey pontiac in my garage. Still a couple things to paint like the skirts and the detail on the 'waterfall' trim that goes over the hood and trunk.
Grill has been rechromed and will do the front bumper too plus a few randoms like indicators and tail lights, rear bumper is still pretty good.
Have a bit of a list of stuff to do, now at that stage where I have to decide if I just want to get back on the road asap or drag it out doing more stuff. I'd like to do as much Dynamat as I can afford, at the very least in the doors/rear quarters. I had a felt kit and new rubbers for the front quarter windows to go in but this didn't happen when it was apart as I 'd hoped it might. Might be the time to pull doors apart and do this, and rechrome the quarter window frames as they're a bit rusty. Hmmm.
Anyway, here's a couple of random pics. Since I have such a list of things to do it seemed logical to put the venetians in for a test fit! Priorities... Not 100% sure on them, think they'll work when more chrome is back on car. Currently look like too much of a feature.
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Nice choice of engine!
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This car is still impossible to take photos of that accurately show the colour but this vid is probably the best so far...
Out in the sun...
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Or if you're on Facebag or instagram look up Charlie's Pinstriping and Custom Painting and there's video and photos there. Which look completely different to the photos above of course.
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Right, finally interesting stuff to report. Car went into the booth today. Really happy with the colour but damn, is it impossible to photograph! Looks dark grey, light grey, brown and green from different angles. Something I've heard from other people with this colour.
It's definitely not going to be a popular choice with everyone and a few will probably think I missed a sweet opportunity to go some new metallic but I really wanted to do something a bit different while staying very 50s and understated.
Anyway here's some pics...
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Stuff all to report really 2 months later. Not painted yet but hopefully it'll be underway shortly.
Disappointing news is that the colour I wanted to go isn't going to work. Was hoping the Windsor Blue would be gray enough to not look silly with the red interior...but it looks silly with the red interior.
So a real left field colour choice going on - a VW colour is now the plan.
Anyway, pics for awesomeness.
It looks like this now except all masked up to spray the door jambs etc.
I bought some mens speciality rubber products.
And the garage has gone downhill since the car is missing.
Discussion:
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Had a 04 Legacy 3.0R wagon with the 3 litre H6. Served us well. Used it for work so drove it all over the country with no real issues although the auto would occasionally take longer to get out of first than I would have liked. Always at this one intersection too - really weird. Not a rocket low down but great on open road for passing etc. Fuel economy was pretty bad being full time 4wd. Even with diesel tax I'd say my Navara is half the fuel cost to run.
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Thanks Eddie, I'll lock in Windsor Blue please.
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Ok. Bit of a change of plan. Chaz the painter has been tied up with other work so not much movement on the car in the last month.
Obviously given me too much time to think because I'm now planning to change the colour. I liked the white but didn't love it so makes sense to throw a bit more time and money at it now than regret missing my chance later.
But now comes the real tough decision of picking a colour so any suggestions, feedback most welcome.
This is a colour I've really liked for a long time and if my interior wasn't grey/deep red I'd go for it. Unfortunately I think it'll look like a christmas tree. And the interior is pretty mint so don't really want to go down that track of changing it.
So, the other favourite for this era of car is a blue/gray. And after years of thinking "yeah, I like that" I can't seem to work out what car I've seen it on. But it looks a bit like this...
To me it's more of a 40s/early 50s flat colour rather than the brighter blues that came in 53ish.
Closest I've found is a '50 Windsor Blue which I think would look pretty cool, but could possibly get a little more gray mixed in plus be a little flatter rather than metallic.
Decisions...
Anyone know of anything along those lines worth considering? Or anything left field?
Always thought this car would end up black but while I like black chevs, the few black Pontys I've seen haven't really done it for me. Too much contrast.
Cheers.
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Too cool man, rad shape and good to hear its in good hands.
If it were me I wouldn't fuck around bagging it without a hefty notch, bridge and 4 link. It'll likely be as much work as getting a bit of extra low, and you've already done the open drive conversion ( Im assuming this was torque tube like the chevs)
itll be a matter of raising tunnel a bit, making small tunnels for upper 4 links bars and chopping the boot up for the bridge. If you don't it'll always piss you off that it doesn't sit right down. And you don't want to spend that money twice. And Im sure they've bagged jag front ends aswell.
Ive used Gambino 4 links twice now, just put one in my 38 and its good gear, cheap and goes straight in. But Murray and Chris know the drill on these and may have better options.
Hey man. Thanks for the suggestions, sorry didn't see this till now.
Yeah fair point. Will sort a plan of attack properly when I'm a bit closer to being able to afford the parts. The Ponty chassis is very different to the Chevs and I'm told there's a fair bit more kick up at the back. Also the boot has been raised for the Jag IRS cage that was in the original plan. No torque tube in these. But yeah, a lot of hassle to go to if it doesn't sit low enough. There's a few cars I know of running bags in Jag IFS (inc one of Murray's) and as I understand it, it's a fairly straight forward install there.
It'll look a heap better lower!
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You might be in for a shock. Just got mine quoted at a few places. No dings. About 2k per bumper was the cheapest.
Have heard a few bad stories about the Hamilton option.
Bumper Replacements in Onehunga, Auckland are where I'll spend my money I think.
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Yep. Unless I cut you off. Then not me.