LaSpaz

3 hours ago, Yowzer said:

The rules apply to First registered in NZ, as such the seatbelts will have to meet 2020 standards if it has yet to be registered.

After a bit more research it looks like it's manufacture date, not registration in NZ date.

"2.1(2)     A motor vehicle does not have to be fitted with seatbelts if it was manufactured, or first registered in any country, before 1 January 1955, but if seatbelts are fitted, they must be attached to seatbelt anchorages that are of an appropriate type, as specified in 2.6, and:"

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/rules/seatbelts-and-seatbelt-anchorages-2002/#211

And also here on virms even though it says "First registered in NZ", on the tables themselves it reads either "registered anywhere" or "manufactured". So a bit confusing to read but the legislation itself looks fairly clear.

https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/general/vehicle-interior/seatbelts-and-seatbelt-anchorages

Happy enough to be wrong, but good to have the right info for anyone else looking. 

I picked up an old Cadillac off FB that I would like to put through entry compliance and enjoy. It had all new front bushes with zerks and new seals when it was imported 24 years ago but now the rubber dust caps  have perished although the suspension is tight because it has only been for the odd blat up the road since replaced. Will the missing dust covers/seals trip me up when I put it through compliance if I take them off or is it more a case of if everything is tight they will be happy? Bushings themselves are not rubber. 

Car was first registered in the US in 1954, if I am reading the legislation correctly it won't need seatbelts as on the road prior to Jan/1955 even if not in NZ? I hope this is the case as has jump seats that would be a pain to deal with.

I had previously read that an imported car has to be registered by the person that imported it and can't be sold for 6 months. Is this still the go or is a paper trail sweet to show where it come from?

Cheers.

LaSpaz

 

I've been importing cars for over 10 years, into the thousands imported now, so had a bit to do with certifiers over the years.

 

When you come to re-vin, the inspector will pick up on any non factory weld and require a repair certificate to cover this work.

 

So get a certifier on board now, they may let you do the work, providing you follow his instructions and document/keep a photographic record along the way.

This all forms port of the document trail for the vehicle, once complied, to cover their arses.

 

Here's a list of the certifiers, there's one listed at the Mount.

 

If he's not available, then Hamilton or Rotorvegas will be your next stop, as any guy from Auckland will have to charge you travel time to inspect.

 

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/specialist-repair-certifiers/docs/src-list.pdf

 

There are a couple I can recommend in the big smoke, but if you aren't fixing the car in Jaffa land then deal with the closest certifier to you.

 

Don't try and wing it or think you can bluff them, cause you might get bent over a barrel with a red hot poker, a painful experience to be told to pull it all apart and start again.

Thanks for that, yep I hear you loud and clear. I will get a certifier on board and do it properly. I certainly don't want any additional complications. Cheers.

Not much help with regards to your questions, but that's a sweet project!

Where abouts in Putaruru are you? I lurk down in Tee Street.

I'm down Ruru. You might have seen my black beetle around town, but sold it a few months back to help fund this ute.

Someone recommended Barry Robinson to me, he seemed all good when he came and looked at the car. Looked at it for about 2 min said easy peasy just take lots of pictures and call me when its done. Its not done yet so have yet to find out if hes fussy though.

Perfect, thanks very much. Appreciate the comment.

Thanks Cletus, It looks like it needs a repair cert for sure. I will follow up with the guy you mentioned and see if he does it. If not, I will just have to chance it with someone.

Anyone heard of Barry Robinson of Hamilton? Had a chat with him and said he would travel here to see it. 

Once I get the repair certificate, if it takes me another year to do the brakes, suspension, interior etc, I imagine the certificate should be valid still? Obviously not all just are doing quick builds.

Before any work starts, yes get a repair certifier to look over it.

You will be allowed to do a majority of the work yourself, small patch panels etc, if there is any structural he may advise a

qualified tradesman carry out those items, or he may simply advise on how he wants the repair to be undertaken, and you can follow his instructions

You will need to take heaps of pics in that case and do not grind any welds or fill until he has inspected again, It wont be too difficult.

Different certifiers will have different views so your best bet is just to call one and get him over to view, the cleaner the body is

before he looks at it the better, so you have done the right thing stripping the seal etc

That is about what I was thinking. Hopefully it pans out that way. These old vw's are just like a basic puzzle as most the panels are available and fit together ok. 

If anyone has experience, either good or bad, with a particular certifier, please let me know. I am worried that if I pick the wrong guy without asking, it will make things harder than they need to be.

Thanks.

Which asks the question, how bad is the rust?

($3.5k of repair panels sounds like lots of structural work?)

The main chassis rails are fine, the panels are about the bottom 8 inches of the vehicle right around. The ute has a compartment under the deck, and the floor inside that is pretty crap, so I have panels to replace some of that also.

Here is a photo of the underside after I removed most the crap bits and scraped the underseal off:

Example of what I am replacing:

Hey, I'm not an expert, far from it! The point I was trying to make was we need as much information as possible to help give you an informed answer. Vague questions tend to get vague answers.

Slightly off topic but do you have all the correct information to re-register it on NZ roads? I'm only asking as it would suck to do all the work only to find out you can't legally put it on the road anyway.

I'm happy to have any input, so cheers. Initially I was expecting this to be like the beetle, where I fix it up, and take it in for an inspection. Everyone told me it was just a strict WoF type test. 

As far as documentation, I have a carjam report showing it was registered here. Original number plates, and there is a sticker on one of the windscreens (rego I think).

I'm happy to answer any questions that might help, so let me know what info you would like. Thanks.

If you want it road legal then you will need to do it properly.

The chances of there being a non rusty VW ute in NZ that is just deregersterd is impossible, so the revin guy is going to know it had rust repairs. If it is not certified for those repairs they WILL make you strip it right back to check it. So you would have wasted your time and money by trying to cheat.

What skills do you have that means you would be able to repair this and just have a guy certify it? Are you a qualified Panelbeater or anything like that?

The more information you give us the better chance you have of getting an answer.

With the current amount of information supplied, my guess is you won't find a certified willing to cert your work without doing it himself.

That does not sound very promising. So the average guy just can't fix up an old car in the garage anymore? Well, not a deregistered one anyway...

I fixed up a beetle before this, and welded in new heater channels, rear quarters etc. But that had the rego on hold.

I have invested 3.5 grand into repair panels for this VW, and upgraded my mig welder in anticipation of spending a bit of time welding. I was hoping that the certifier would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, and let the repairs speak for themselves. Maybe I was overly optimistic.

Edited to add:

No qualifications, never worked as a panel beater. Just a guy with a welder, and some time on my hands. 

So you are intending on doing all the repairs yourself and you want someone to certify that you have done it correctly?

Yep, intending to do the work myself. I guess I need a repair certifier to sign off on it because it's deregistered. I would be inclined to chance it, and see if they pick up on it at the inspection, but if they want a repair cert at that point anyway, then perhaps I am better to get on to it before I weld anything.

I have a VW Ute that I am about to start repairing, but apparently I need a Repair Certifier on board to avoid trouble when I come to re-rego it.

Can anyone recommend someone in the Waikato or Bay of Plenty? I am located in Putaruru, so close to nothing.

Here are a couple of photos to show what I am dealing with.

Name (first is sweet): Bevan
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