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cheers yeah it seems like theyre in demand, Ive ended up with a complete C160 conversion including axles and dash so im sure someone will want it.

Havent had any C56s jump up at me yet, then a mate hit a deer in his sp20 the other night and fucked it so that might be a good option to strip, dunno if the later mazda manuals are any tougher than the early ones 

Sweet ok thanks I'll keep an eye out for a c56. I don't need 6 speeds.

Power wise ideally I'd keep it around the 200 hp mark, I don't need lots and won't run a turbo or anything.

Yeah cheers any options are good at this stage, apart from dropping 20+k into a new engine, that don't seem smart 

yeah that could be the go if I could get one, my thinking was the donor trans doesn't matter too much, I just would try and start with something closer to the wanger hp wise ( i figure 200 at flywheel ) which seems closeish to  what the 2.3 later familia / atenza motors are.

Im might start pesting round the rally prep shops and see if any of them have any old mazda stuff

cheers yeah Im pumped on it, pointless but it'll keep me busy. Ive got a mate in town with another one the same, he wants the same swap done. I dont need it to be fast, I have other fast shit, its just needs to be loud and slow looking. 

My main concerns will be flywheel diameter, starter placement and track width etc, hopefully the tie rod inputs etc arent too dissimilar on the later mazdas or whatever I use and I can keep the steering rack and everything stock. The last design approval I did sucked the life out of me for a while. 

I sort of need to get the engine first to start mockups but haven't had any good options jump out, 13b sounds the best bet for parts availability. One gem I read was the the auto counterweights on the 13b has a different flange which will allow alot more flywheel options, that what the grey BFMR used. 

Talking to a few mates in motorsport the Honda boxes sound like the handle the power better and probably easier to get brake upgrades etc for, I might need a parts car 

bear with me im becoming a boomer so may have screwed these posts up 

Yeah I saw that civic, tight fit but I bet it was fun to drive. that radiator hose would be way cooler not there 

45 minutes ago, oldrx said:

Pics? Might be better to sell/hoard it and buy a rougher one to cut up?

Like saving your missus for the next guy ? That ain't me, I don't see the 323 4 door in poo brown ever becoming a high dollar car. If I get the swap done it'll need to look like it belongs in there. 

I'll get some pics tomorrow and have an atenza to go take some measurements from which may stop this all before it starts if it's all wrong but there seems to be plenty of Mazda donor options around.

This was the bfmr I found pics of, 13bt, quite the thing really, I bet the exhaust / driveshaft clearance was tight. The bfmr rally ones we had would eat the gearbox shaft end bearing seats and fill them with alloy shavings, I think we welded plates in the stop it.

I've been given a nana spec 82 323, it looks good but could do with a pulse.

Rough plan would be to use atenza trans, shortened axles and hubs / brakes. I'll make a trans adapter and fart around with clutch and flywheel spacing. 

I won't run big HP, just want a cruiser. There was a cool bf sedan around years ago with same setup, but a 13b turbo, I'm not sure if it became the green rwd one.

Has anyone messed with front drive rx swaps ? I found a couple of threads of older cars using f series Mazda boxes, I've used these in rally cars and they were shit.

 I'm plotting a swap and the later atenza 6 speeds look better suited 

Thanks 

I've used motec, Aim and racepak ones as stand alone loggers on raceboats with basic control functions, they are all easy enough to configure and set alarm limits on, but they all have big goofy dashes. 

The last big install I did with the Aim one in a boat has an aquisition unit and the dash is just a display so that might be a good option where you just have warning / position light etc for asthetics. Aim system was awesome for input flexibility, I was using it to monitor a Russian gas turbine engine and we could still fuck around configuring all the inputs and limits to make it useful. It'd run timing no worries. 

There's a fella down ( bob richardson ex link ) here that makes a basic loggers and ecus with basic display functions , he's made them for all sorts of engines.

18 hours ago, yoeddynz said:

And a thread about the bedford too please @square

What bedford ? Its a chev G20, Ill do a thread when I 4x4 it, maybe this winter

15 hours ago, HumberSS said:

Can you start a thread on the kids jet boat? Keen to see that

Yep will do, its a 5000W motor and 140mm unit, just getting another drive sprocket made then will get on it. A mate has a plastic welded hull with a 25kw motor and it popped me up out of the hole in a flash, real impressive for tight stuff 

The fire issue is a big one. A manufacturer sending a vehicle through ANCAP tests or whatever else vs some spud rigging up a pack and BMS and having a certifier put their name to it is not the same. I know the confidence levels with lvvta arent high, Clint will know more. 

I'm one of these spuds and I can't get my head around it, I've already had one pack combust on a bike, still don't know what caused it, but it nearly cost me my shed. 

I've currently got a 48v go kart and a 72v kids jetboat ( surron motor ), Hilux is next.

In this case, there was no point in me posting here, I'll learn 

Quick follow up here, I've had plenty of useless advice so far from around the place from noone with any real experience so will plug away getting the trans functions of the ecu to work , there's not that many ins and outs. 

I don't have exact wiring diagrams for the Hilux or the donor so am averaging many diagrams which is no fun. 

I went through the same exercise a few months back with an A750f and 1KD swap and it works ok still. 

It’s an ecu controlled engine now, but I’m turfing the electronic diesel pump for a manual one to get adjustable boost and fuel pressure.

there must be a way of using the stock eng / trans ecu just for the trans   Just need to brain how 

Just now, Yowzer said:

I have a spare a43de TCM I could send you, you should be able to get the box running off that as long as you can give it a speed and TPS signal, however the shift points will be too high for the 1kz and I don't know how you'd go about altering that.

Thanks yeah thought about that but no adjustment would  be an issue

Just now, 00quattro00 said:

The older 1kz should have a separate tcm, or get one from another diesel like an Isuzu or Mitsubishi that use these trans

This one is built into the engine ecu but I didn’t realise the Pajero etc had them, will see what I can find. I’d been looking under 30-40le as well 

Hi gents,

I'm lobbing a 1kz and a340e into an old rn 90 Hilux and will run a manual diesel pump ( probably ) instead of the engine ecu.

I can't figure out how to drive the trans, I've made manual shift boxes for these before but want this to work properly, either with the engine ecu or another trans ecu.

Anyone got any ideas or has done it before ? If I can fool engine ecu then that the easiest way, just can't brain how. It has the tps cable on it already. 

The boxes are super common but Google wants me to buy an aftermarket TCM and I don't want that for a $1000 truck 

Thanks 

Cheers I got one of those but the driver they sent with it still needs a registration.

I ended up getting an OBDLink MX + bluetooth thing off trademe, works grouse, logs some data and I can check and clear codes via phone. 

Next job is get a Can sniffer and get dash working, anyone got any time with this sort of thing ?

cheers, no luck so far, anyone else got any ideas ? 

I registered on the Toyota Europe GS site, it said all done no problems then just dead. Im going to try a bluetooth phone OBDII reader thing but I doubt itll do what I want.

Also transplanting a 1KD common rail diesel into something else is possible, I done it and am driving it