civic_zr Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Been lurking here awhile, thought I might share my dirty old hondas! Oldschool and Honda, probably not what comes to mind for most of you... haha.. Below are a couple of my front tuggaaas (First generations of their models, so about as 'oldschool' as they can get haha) '84 CR-X Ballade Sports Bit of background One of the first hot hatches out of Japan. 800kg, 135ps, mass produced twin cam fuel injected engine was pretty ahead of its time for '84! Front end (Guards, nosecone), sideskirts, door trims are all ABS plastic to save weight. I got it with a horrible blue interior, fail spec 1500cc motor and little brakes and soggy suspension. How it started back in '09 '10 - Suspension in, ZC fitted This arrived from Japan Bare metal begins Nat's '12 So after a bit of work, its now got a full black Si Interior. Custom built bilstien suspension, re-indexed torison bars - nuespeed springs. Twin pot brakes nicked of a 1G Legend. Engine bay is awaiting a early 80s HKS kit that I got ex-japan. Body got a repaint, it snowballed from a dented door by the neighbour, to a full bare metal repaint, inside and out. My other toy.. '79 Honda Civic. Again, First Generation, but the last of the 1G - an EB3. As I got it, a '79 ZR - featuring twin dellortos, it had just recieved a fresh panel and paint, and the cage fitted. Did a few basic mods, hot cam, 4-1 headers, upgraded ignition and ran a 5 speed en1 box. Ran it for a while like this, pissed a few older gentlemen in much more prestigious cars off in the Classic Trails series. Then stumpled across this, a NOS EN4 motor (a jump in displacement from 1238cc to 1335cc). Was continualy plauged with carb issues though, so it never went well with this motor. Purchased this as my daily driver. A EB3 Civic, with Turbo II (Honda City) running gear. Subsequently a mate left it here for me, literally 500 meters from our workshop. (DONT LIFT OFF IN FWD Turbos) So the motor went into the racecar. Its last outing, about this time last year. Plauged with some overheating issues, and suspension woes, has taken a backseat over the past year. But will be receiving a bit more attention once the adjustable suspension setup arrives mid-year. Ohh and the current daily driver All feedback welcome, keen to get a bit more involved in the oldschool car club, as I'm a big fan of 80s (and 70s) cars of all marques discussion thread: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=31694 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic_zr Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 This happened way back in '09 http://nzhondas.com/community-gallery/97050-little-f-kers-dhwarning-56kdh.html Our '74 Japanese import EB1 civic got firebombed by some vandal cunts. The '74's are especial rare, they were Japanese built rather than NZ built. Which meant higher spec all black interior, and a few extra factory features, including superior rust protect. But the downside is, they were only private imports, so there aren't many in the country. After years of searching, earlier in the week, by a stroke of luck we came across another '74. The car was suppose to be complete, but the idiot scrap metal guys who had it stripped it even though we had agreed to buy the whole thing they did a sweet job of hammering the dash out... Interior is a mess, but complete so that's a bonus Car was parked up in a barn or something in '09. Its full of straw and dried plants... Thankfully keeping it dry has meant the car stays rust free. Theres two small bubbles on the shell and it needs a door and guard. But otherwise pretty amazing for a 38 year old car. The goal! Stand-by as the suspension and running gear are swapped over out of the burn-out. Then it'll hit the paint shop (Again, damn it, thought I was finally over painting cars!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic_zr Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Few updates... These are the factory city brakes. Pretty sure they are the smallest brakes ever produced by Honda, they are absolutely useless. (Even smaller than the 1974 Eb1 Honda Civic) Thank you Honda-lego Raided my parts bin for some sizeably bigger E-AS CR-X Si ones Suspension is next on the list for the city, as its riding high atm. Really high, high enough you are eye level with the driver of a Odyssey haha On the City wish-list, the Motocompo, the motorcycle that honda offered as an option in the 80s that folds up and fits in the boot of a city turbo Also scored some sweet 2000's NOS stereo gear for the City + CRX... Wooohooo All black touch screens and built in 256mb hard drive! Pretty hard case this stuff use to retail for $600-800, now the average cellphone has more advanced technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic_zr Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Got the suspension back into the EB, find the bolts was a bit of a hassle but its a rolling body again now. Also did some investigating about its ages, Turns out its a '73. Came into nz 10/73. Which must make it one of the earliest EB's in the country. The previous oldest we knew about was 1175XXX, Our burnt out one 1179XXX this one is 107XXXX Also began cleaning the engine bay up Before: After: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic_zr Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Bit of progress on the EB Reco'd radiator, plus had the fan frame powered coated and fan blades cleaned As it sits now. Inner guard tops have been taken back to bare metal and treated. Next is the firewall seam, and some spots in the engine bay Also cleaned up some wheels for the city, and started restoring my wheels for the racecar EB Civic City wheels, just small 13", 165/65 tyres and +20 something offset From this To this Finally this Quite pleased with the result, my first time painting with gun and a proper booth. Civic wheels Centres are getting coated because they were quite corroded, now just need to track down some new bolts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic_zr Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Been able to play cars most of the working week due to lack of work at work, and break between uni so slammed the daily Shit photo is shit, but managed to get the city a fair bit lower. A 50+ mm drop in the front, and heaps in the rear. Yay for Honda lego! Didn't spent a cent, just used other stuff I had spare better pics to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77civic_eb2 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Awsme lil cars you've got there i do have a question for you does the 80s honda city have the same stud pattern as the eb1/2/3 i believe its 4x120 but i maybe mistaken ive found its not very easy to find this stud pattern not that its at the top of the list for my 77 eb2 at the moment. you wouldnt happen to have any spare body parts for the eb civics would you ive got a spare dash and a couple speedo's for the eb2 civic id havta raid my spare parts and see what else ive got i believe ive got a bit of interior parts like window winders n what not PM me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic_zr Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Sadly there are only 3 cars with the 4x120 pattern. 1G Civic, 1G Accord and RX5 Mazda. RX5 mazda wheels aren't too hard to find ex-japan. Its just the shipping that is a killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic_zr Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Got the racecar eb out couple of weeks back. With a group buy run of BC suspension, and alloy radiators on the horizon decided it was time to start working through some of the previous issues it had. First the temperature issue. Decided an oil cooler was the best place to start. There is a group buy for triple core alloy radiators on 1stgencivic.com so water cooling will be sorted soon too. Also wrapped the turbo downpipe Before installation, first step was to modify the horrible sandwich plate that came with my cooler kit. The internal galleries in the typical chinese spec plates are rough, and restrictive. Have heard of pressure drops upto 10-12psi on F20c motors, so got in there with the dremel to smooth everything out. Before, see the blunt edge. After photo didn't come out well. Next headed out to STA for some 10-AN fittings, 4 for $80 odd bucks on trade. Beats the ridiculous $46+gst each of the Fragola ones. Please to report, no issues with quality, no leaks so far. Hidden nicely away, but still plenty of airflow under the bumper Next got the wheels for it finished off... Think some flares are going to be in order Also some more progress on the Orange EB. Lack of picture though, sorry for the crap ones. Well I said never again, but it happened... another bare metal job. Thankfully this time we decided to have the car media blasted rather than manually stripping it. Waiting at the strippers.. haha Unfortunately, due to poor timing I didn't get any photos of it all stripped afterwards, as it went straight from the blasters to the panel shop, where the rust killing solution was applied before I got there In the booth waiting for the epoxy 2k primer. Primer on, all sealed, waiting for panel beater to carry out dent removal, and weld a couple of small areas. Should hopefully have this done next week, and the sanding can begin again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic_zr Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 ^Cheers nick will pm you. Few updates in order! Caution enormous post follows #1 These goodies arrived today All new gaskets and bearings for the gearbox, bar a couple of unavailable roller bearings. Cheers Caleb8-) Had a return line for the turbo welded to the sump, and also a bash plate as a precaution. Because on my old motor I managed to split the sump. Planning to play around with the mounts to get a 10mm lift on the motor Gave it a quick 220-320-600, New genuine sump gasket thanks to Stephen, took the oil pickup off and cleaned it. Then put everything back together. Now waiting on a new exhaust gasket, honda aren't sure if they are available in japan, so might be stuck with the tough task of finding a browntop specific one locally Started giving the shocker of an engine bay a clean up mild wire tuck and a paint job are on the cards Leaky battery at some point and the old master cylinder had damaged the paint, luckily there was only a small amount of surface rust. So ground it off and treated it #2 Been a while since an update... getting there slowlyBefore Engine bay masked up, spot welds on the towers shaved Engine in ~ finally haha Test fit of the piping - everything fits, just need a new throttle body silicon joiner as the hks one is for the fail spec browntop throttle body, not the h22a one Gearbox apart, bolts all in place prior to going for plating Bolts back from electroplating - better than new! LSD - Check, New bearing - check, new seals/gaskets - check. All ready to go on the motor Motor all done, not just looking done haha. Oil feed line was damn tricky, not much room under the manifold hoping it won't leak Old flywheel vs New The mail seal was something I had forgotten to order, luckily everything from ZC -> B -> H even some K series are all the same - so Honda had one in stock on the shelf! In other news Wagon knuckles for the front of the EB - nice chap in canada swapped them for some EB bumpers. They allow bigger brakes to be fitted as the caliper spacing is tiny on the regular eb hubs. (Y) to procoat in east tamaki - another stella job by them. Wheels Powercoated red by last owner -> acid dipped -> polished -> painstaking scrubbed to remove polishing compound build up -> then masked - outer 4 sections of the spokes painted -> re masked to do the inner spokes (Did this because I'm a fussy fuck and don't like cutting masking tape as it doesn't give a straight edge with a blade) - Moral of the story - good things take time hahah! #3 Stripped them down http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o549/lotusboy_nz/2012-08-11_17-58-43_323.jpg' alt='2012-08-11_17-58-43_323.jpg'> This was one of the ones that came out... Because of the angle they're on once lowered, this ones worn the end of the shaft What it should look like (left) Have the parts to make two decent ones, just need to arrange some new boots. Also fitted these to the front, getting camber into these old torsion bar hondas is an issue. So I got the crush tubes in the top hats offset, while also replacing the rubber with nolathane Also had a bit of a mission finding which shifter linkage to use.. 1500cc and 1600cc are different... and some gypsy sold me a 1600cc with the end cut off Shifter sorted, Exhaust sorted.. new wheels on Teaser with new exhaust on, and new wheels [/img] #4 Look what finally arrived! BC Suspension specially built for the EB 1-2-3 Chassis. Big thanks to the UK 1stgencivic.com club for working together with the UK supplier of BC to get the factory to build some suspension for these old cars! There is virtually nothing else available, so to get a taylor made, height, damper and camber adjustable setup for under 2k is great. Front comparison Rear comparison Got it all in last night, huge improvement, need to set the camber/ride height up though Next update will hopefully be driveshafts back in the CR-X #5 Slow progress lately due to working weekends fml...But had this one off so got stuck in at the workshop! EB as it was sitting. Unfortunately the BC's came from the UK with a odd ball spring setup - 7kg front, 3kg rear.... so changed out the rears for some 350lb, and looking to swap the fronts for some 450lb. At the moment looking to buy some longer fronts, as I don't want to run keeper springs if I can avoid it. Got stuck in and rolled the rear guards after fitting the bcs. Heat gun + old roll cage section + hammers + patience = win (so long as there's no bog in your guards) Its mugen..... just not for a civic... think it works Excuse the shit cellphone and instafag photos Made some cardboard templates up to get ally plates cut to reinforce the edges of the splitter, so it won't fall off and get run over. Also finally got around to addressing the fuel issues in the EB (It's always had the original carby fuel tank, which previously, once pressurized sprayed fuel out the breather pipe! And also the tiny carb fuel lines) New surge tank, high pressure supply pump and alloy mounting plate. Used rubber washers and cap screws to try and limit vibrations from the pump. Plan is to sort new lines tomorrow, and find a low pressure supply pump during the week. #6 Hit a hurdle with the fuel system install - motorsport nz requires that any fuel tank/ surge tank / swirl pot be contained in a sealed box if in the passenger compartment. So because hatchback, I've got to get an ally box folded up to surround the setup. Also all internal hoses must be steal or metal reinforced.In better news, lifter pump has been ordered, looking at bending up some steel lines to run inside the car, with braided lines to run to pump/tank. Also been playing around with brakes to upgrade the crx and 1g civic.... there is little info online about the older stuff so, for the greater good, here's what I've found / measured Left to right as follows Disc Specs City Turbo II Dia - 210 Height - 40 Centre Bore - 61 Thickness - 10 EB3 Civic Dia - 225 Height - 44 Centre Bore - 92 Thickness - 7 (Wagon - 11) 1G CR-X / Teg - Si (Ex-race car, unsure if standard) Dia - 241 Height - 45 Centre Bore - 60.5 Thickness - 19 EG5 Civic Dia - 240 Height - 45 Centre Bore - 60.5 Thickness - 21 1G Teg GSi Disc (CA3 Twin pot caliper) Dia - 243 Height - 45 Centre Bore - 61 Thickness - 20 CA3 twin pot caliper bolted upto 1G Civic wagon rotor/hub (significantly different to 1G civic hatchback/sedan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish_mate Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Hey guys just signed up. Currently restoring an eb1 Civic and was wondering if anybody knows of anyone in NZ that does replacement panels (roof mainly) and another question for this in the know does the en1 subframes fit into the eb1 with next to no adjustments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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