KLR250

Ive been really slack lately, like really really slack!

anyways, made my adjustable mounting rods for the rear supports omn the jag IRS. Ive ditched the factory jag rods and made some new ones utilising some XF watts link rods. I needed the rods to be shorter than the jag ones, just because of the differnt shape of the floor and how far up inside the car i have the IRS assembly. Cutting down watts link rods made a bit of sence, there thicker walled, bigger in diameter, buysh's are available in nolathane, and there free. First i cut the rods down and tapped a 14 x 1.5mm thread into them, I wanted the thread resonably fine for better adjustment, and 14 x 1.5mm was as fine as i had. Inital plan was to buy some grade 8 all thread, but it doesnt seem to exist, so i bought some long grade 8 bolts, cut the heads of and got the threads cut on the lathe, so now ill be able to easily adjust pinion angle on the diff.

Here you can see the jag tube diamter vs the XF watts link

all done, Jag vs New rod

and this is how i plan to set them up, the RHS is just some old shit i had lying around, but this is the size ill use, it will tuck up a bit higher and have the required bracketry welded on to secure the rods.

The twin exhausts will pass in between the rods and diff centre

hmmmmm camber

Currently im working on the spare lower control arms I have, Im actually shifting the hub mounting brackets forward, as im not happy with the wheel position, and i dont want to shift the whole assembly forward. as it stands i have room for the exhausts to pass over and id rather not hack the floor for room, so rather than shift the entire assembly forward im just shifting the hubs forward on the lower arms. This involves cutting of the brackets, jigging them up so the brackets sit where i want and re-welding them....not to hard, and really, if you had to do this conversion most people would move the IRS assembly forward, but i like I said, i like the room for the exhausts.

anyways, ill get some pics of that later

im liking the orange with silver detail mate,i wouldnt worry about the black top on it .

and cheers for the info on your mig,i THINK mine will handle steam pipe JUST,lol

yeah, still undecided on paint, i know at least half of it will be electric orange, but im so keen on a two tone...not sure

what mig have you got?

wow, what an awsome build, I think i have a hidden love of house trucks i didnt even know existed lol

looks like your living the dream......

very jealous

Ive already bought the electric orange paint guys, so no stock colour love lol

what are peoples opinions on my planned paint scheme, dont be scared to say its shit, but im keen on jet black over electric orange with silver tribal graphic, or just electric orange with silver tribal?

whatchathink?

and thanks for the thread title bubblegoose, its the best title hahaha "klr250's lpg powered ride of yess ness" love it!

Read the entire project end to end - love the amount of work and the direction its going - just wish it was an XD wagon for max swoon-ness

How far from completed is it at the moment?

Thanks bud, As for completion, I have nfi to tell you the truth, the light at the end of the tunnel seems like a pipe dream, I just need to dtop trying to incorporate things into the build and just lock down what i have and build it, when i started it was going to be just a tidy basic build, all of a sudden ive added R&P steering, IRS, airbags with cantilever rear suspension, two tone paint, and EL dash conversion....sheesh, bit of more than i can chew it seems lol, But i will get there eventually.

TL;DR

haha sorry man, its a couple of years worth of posts

awesome project man. XF 'coons are awesome! plus awesome points x12938109 for going with a 6 + turbo, and gas omg !!!!

Thanks Man appreciate the comments

lol yea read page 1 and a half then skipped to the end

tis wicked none the less!

love the thought/preparation and giving it a go feel to the whole thing!

loving the XJ40 rear end conversion,makes me want a XF more than ever but ill stick with my cortina for now .what size mig amp wise are you/did you use to build steam pipe turbo manifolds??caught my attention as thinking along similar lines for my escort van(have a sierra 205 motor itching for boost )

Yeah cheers, The XJ40 rear end is a really nice bit of gear, not many people use them, as most people are after inboard brakes and the traditional hotrod look the original early jag IRS offers. The old school look wouldnt suit my build though, was after something a little more modern with better geometry

As for my mig, I purchased a 200 amp MagMate, which BOC sell, its an invertor style mig. I was going to get the 250amp version but figured id never need that much grunt and my power points aint up to that kind of current draw anyway

mad xf, how did u find this site?

those 4.1' on lpg LOVE turbos

Haha, Thanks man, thanks for introducing me to the site, i was going to give you a shoutout but wasnt sure weather you used the same username here, so figured id wait until you poked your head in...hope to hear from you a bit more on xfalcon to.

and yeah, 250's on LPG with boost make massive torque...gotta love the old tractor motors hehe

4 pages in 1 go!

What the..how'd you..but its..

That was quite a marathon lol, basically cut n pasted each post from xfalcon, dont think ive ever managed that post count in such a short period of time haha

now im off to read some threads on here....ive finished posting in my thread, got more updates, but im have the cbf's lol

just happy to see somebody chasing power/ish on lpg

makes my warm and fuzzy inside

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=28802

haha Thanks man, great to be able to chuck my project on another forum, Im really liking this place so far!

picked up wheel adapters from the machine shop today

been itching to get home from work to bolt the wheels up, Tucked 265's! wheels still turned with no bind at this height. Very strange to see camber on the rear of a falcon lol

Boring update, received my ford to chev hub adapters, Dropped them off at the machine shop to get the centre bores machined out to 74.1mm. They will machine in about 20mm, ill then get some solid spigots machined up that will slide in from the back side and sit against the ledge, so it actually gets held in by the factory hub and the rim, the speedy cheetah wheels have a 71mm bore, so it all works out well, more pics soon. Cant wait to be able to bolt some wheels up.

should have my adjustable mounting rods finished this week, will get some pics up. Once wheels are bolted on and im sure the wheel position is good i can starting fabbing a crossmember

wheel travel is awsome, theres no universal bind at all, and thats without springs, going to be awsome bagged

well, after a few hours of drilling cutting, getting covered in grinding sparks I have the watts link crap removed, what a bastard of a job

and heres whats left....good riddance to it

put the IRS back in to check how the rear mounting struts will sit

the drivers side rail opens up to the spare wheel tub, so it looks like ill need to shorten that rod 2". I think ill shorten both rods, as i want them to looks the same. Ill make the rods adjustable,

this way i can adjust my pinion angle easily

Out of interest, this pic shows just how well things line up. I used an old watts link rod to see how the lower spring mount on the jag IRS lines up with the spring tower

In this pic you will see where ive marked out this peice in the middle, its close to touching the diff, so it needs a minor trim and a bit of sheet will be welded in

and a few random pics for good measure

Finished both front mounts tonight which is good

Drivers side

Passenger side

Off to a machine shop to get some mounting spigots machined up and Ill weld them onto my brackets, then i can start on the rear mounts finally.

Sorry about these shit quality pics, my camera is rooted and im using Donnas iphone

Been bugerising around a bit lately, not getting a whole lot done, but nearly finished the front mounts, just finishing welding them up

the 4mm gusset up the middle has increased the strength enormously. Should look good when there painted

crappy iphone pic

4mm gusset down the middle to tie the four peices together

cardboard version

hole is just an access hole basically

been building front mounts for the IRS, these will utilise the upper control arms holes in the chassis rails. Cut all the peices out, tacked it all together for both sides and decided i need to use thicker material, will jump up to 6mm.....4 hours down the tubes and back to the drawing board lol but this is the idea

I could gusset them and box em, but i want them to look clean and simple, so ill make the second set on the long weekend. Hey, least its bolted in at the front now lol

excuse the crap iphone pic

what a b1tch of a job.

good news is, it looks like its going to work. Got it jacked up and roughly in place

heres some pics.

Its a bit tight in the shed atm, so it hard to get many decent angles

Good news is, its tight, but i have enough room for exhausts. also, the front mounts end up in an ideal spot, i can fabricate some bolt on brackets that utilise the falcons upper control arm holes through the rails. I can utilise the falcons lower control arm mounting points for a bracket to reinforce the mounts and make it double sheer like the jags had it set up. the rear mounts are easy, remove the watts link brackets, weld in a crossmember and required brackets. Im sure im going to have a few headaches, but so far so good.

I was really hoping to be able to run the exhausts underneath, much like the new commodores, but i have suspcisions they may sit to low. the unit needs to come up another inch yet, but i cant until i remove some bracketry

finished cleaning it up, everything looks to be in great nick, no slop or anything, no oil leaks, will tear it down to paint once its been mounted in the car and its all finilised.

very well made bit of gear.

will most likely replace the ouput shaft bearings and seals, hub bearings and seals and universal joints

all the wires in the pic's are the ABS sensors and speedo sensor, all that shit will be going in the bin.

tommorrow i hope to get it jacked up in the car for a look.

very happy with the purchase, half shafts and uni's are massive, half shaft a forged solid units, should handle most of what i plan to throw at it.

I reckon its going to look nuts painted and detailed

Picking the IRS up on the weekend hopefully,

Im using a Jag XJ40 IRS

The story,

Initially i was going to run AU IRS, Until i realised how heavy it was

I also discovered the wheel bearings can be a head**** to change, to the point where you can destroy the hub pressing them out, id also need to perform sugery on the spare tyre tub etc etc

Plan B was a XJ6/12 Jag IRS, but i really disliked the fact they have inboard brakes, it would look a bit retarded with my open style rims, and I also wasnt keen on pad changes and brake bleeding under the car. The other issue with the older Jag units is it seems LSD's are not that common, lsd's were mainly behind XJS XJ12, maybe optioned on other models, not sure, but i couldnt find a LSD.

and lastly, you need to run trailing arms with the older jag IRS, I didnt want to do that.

So i looked at later jag rear ends, XJ40 X300 etc, they retain the jag design, using the half shafts as upper control arms (half shafts support the hub through wheel travel and control the camber curve) and are really simple, they dont require trailing arms and mount to the car in 4 locations

anyways, Thats how i decided on the jag XJ40 rear end....

No real updates, just posting pictures because i like pictures lol

starting to bolt things in the engine bay and make bracketry for stuff, need to get all the lines routed before i continue prepping the bay, saves scratching the paint when im all done. decided to mount my power steer resouvour on the firewall. Hopefully this week i can buy all my mandrel bends so i can start on the dumps, the exhaust system will be mandrel bent twin 2.5", ill be running twins all the way with a small balance pipe. The front turbo will be the passenger side exhaust and wiill cross over between the bell housing and engine, theres plenty of room there. gotta get the C9 bolted in to, its just heavy, and i cbf atm lol

heres a shot underneath, I have the motor sitting 15mm higher than stock, and 10mm forward, more dump pipe space and better tailshaft position when its slammed.

The engine is level, but the sump is only hanging on by 2 bolts and drooping on one side

random pics

forgot to mention, also made some corner peices to tie the through bolts to the engine mount/control arm structure

heres my plan for the front end. A company by the name of classic performance products makes what they call a mini subframe for mustangs. It eliminates the radius rods and stock control arms, and replaces them with a proper lower wishbone. The mini subframe is $400USD or there abouts. Uses an eccentric for caster adjustment, The Aussie dollar si good atm, just waiting on them to get me a shipping cost. This wont fit in a X series as easy as it does a mustang, ill need to fab a new crossmember up front, as the X series xmember is differnt to a mustang, But this should be easy. The plan is to use the 65/66 kit and mod it to suit. the 66 arms are 2" shorter, this will allow me to move the control arm positions outwards and eliminate bumpsteer. This will lose a bit of camber gain, but ill easily get that back with the TCP upper arms with built in shelby drop. You can buy the whole kit (upper and lower arms) for $900usd, but id rather the TCP upper arms as they are full adjustable

Hopefully shipping wont be to much...we will see

this system will totally eliminate caster change between full droop and full compression and also have no bind

heres some pics from some guys on vintage mustangs