robevo

Would be keen as for a cruise from out west, whats the details??

Gunna see if I can get my A into G and get to this one

Hey mate

If you Dig up my build on my escort, I made brackets up to suit the Nissan calipers, but my discs where bigger.

There are some pics in there that might help

Cheers

ROB

Hi guys

I went through all this not so long ago.. I ended up going with a carter Lift pump, Bosch 044 and a surge tank. ( I would post pics, but im just to numpty to get it right - happy to email someone with more knowledge)

It works fantatstic, & will handle pretty much any mods I throw at the engine in the future (CA18DET)

Did make a noticeable difference, with fuel surge for hill starts etc, and hard cornering.

Downsides, both pumps are noisy as.. But lets face it and escort with no carpets etc aint quiet haha... We did some work with another car (VR4) and put the 044 inside the surge tank, and that worked very well, and was a lot quieter, and the advance of less AN fittings to save some cash

As for the return, I ran it back to the surge tank, with a return line back to the main tank. My thinking was that if you run the return to the main tank, then the lift pump has to out flow the EFI pump. Even after long running, have not noticed and major increase in the temp of the surge tank etc.

Just my 2c worth haha

Cheer

ROB

Hi,

Yea I know this is just one of the issues it could have, another syptom of maybe poor fueling, is whenever it comes to a hill, it stuggles and stutters, and the afr gauge says its running lean. It does improve if you give it abit more gas though

It better not be the coils, I didn't want to have that issue like some many nissans seems to have, so brought some brand new genuine Nissan coils.

In regards to the afm, yes it is close, probably about 150mm away from the turbo, while it is off the road getting the fuel system sorted out, im going to look at how hard it will be to mount it further away.

Thanks for your help. Is your car running & driving now?

Have been thinking a lot about this fuel setup. One thing I have not thought of is the FPR.

will the standard nissan one work? Or will I need an after market one?

Cheers

Cheers ofnsiv - this is pretty much exactly how I have the surge tank mapped out

Mjrstar - I see the link but where would I even start looking for this type of pump?? I'm looking purchasing in 2-3 weeks so I'm keen to look at all options, as a mate is running an 044 in his ceff, and yes it is damn noisy!

Yea, Im fully AN fittings all they way, Just for being able to work on things SO much easier - And yea abit of bling is not a bad thing sometimes hahaha

No I havnt brought any pumps yet, what would you suggest? I was looking at the 044, just as it seems EVERYONE is using them, and seems to be the most used pump around.

What would you suggest? I was looking at the Walboro pump as its $100 cheaper 

All the info I have found says to add fuel to the top of the tank, so you always have a 'head' of fuel above the outlet.

I may have found some answers to this -

The Radium engineering ( radiumauto.com ) say an increase of fuel temp 20-30 degs, decreases fuel density by aprox 2% - add that to a fuel ratio of 12:1 makes the difference inconsequential

Have a look, as im keen to hear all opinions

Cheers

Sorry guys, cant figure out how to post pics atm. the new post pic button is not there?

Anyway - there is a pic of my current fuel setup in the my project thread.

Cheers Rookie - My surge is as follows - low pressure carter IN top. Rail return IN top. Over flow outlet top - Outlet to EFI pump - bottom

Is this what you mean?

I have just about finished making the surge tank, again would post a pic, but not getting it atm haha

Cheers

I have a large miss/cut under full load/boost in high revs - so one of the things it could be is running out of fuel, hence the upgrade. (and it was always planned)

For me I was just not comfortable having pumps etc under the car. Just a personal preference.

So all my pumps filters etc are in the boot, next to the tank. I have the Vl commodore pump atm (will be for sale after the upgrade) and have been told they don't "suck" so having trouble lifting the fuel from the tank, seeing as its 1/3 - 1/2 way up from the bottom.

I will try add a pic of my current setup

Hi

Sorry, when I say -6 or -8 I mean AN fittings. -6 = 7.5mm & -8 =10mm (tube internal diameter)

Hi All

Looks like the current fuel setup is not up to scratch for the escort.

Im going to plumb up a surge tank and new pumps etc.. and thought I would get peoples opinions on a couple of things

First off I will try best to describe what im planning on...

-8 out of bottom of tank

-8 filter

-8 in and out of carter lift pump

-8 into surge tank top

-8 out of surge tank bottom to Bosch 044

-6 out of 044

-6 filter to engine

(now this is where I am after what others are doing)

-6 return from engine to surge tank

-6 over flow back to tank

Please comment if you see something you think is not right

My questions are

- Should I return back to the surge tank. or back to the main tank?? - reason being hot fuel from the engine not the best, but the surge tank will always be full guaranteed

- if I do return back to the surge, should I run -8 as the over flow back to the main tank

- If I do return back to the tank, in my head the lift pump needs to out flow the 044 pump to maintain the surge tank to be full?

- If I return back to the main tank, I will just use a ' Y ' fitting to merge the engine return and surge overflow. and run two -6 in and one -8 out

The carter is rated at 72 GHP  --  Ive seen the bosch 044 rated at anything from 200lph to 300lph  --  But im un sure how these relate to pressure while on boost etc not really my thing haha

Im sorry if this is confusing, I have tried to be as clear as I can hahaha

If your un sure the car is a escort wih a ca18det. - this is built to be a fun car, road driving, drags, gymkana, track days etc etc

FYI the whole setup with be fragola fittings with stainless braid line

Thanks in advance

Cheers

ROB

Well I think I have my water leak sorted LOL

So I will make it again - weather looks like its ment to be clear - fingers corssed

See you all there

Apart from the rain and not getting to see many of your guys cars - was a great night & looking forward to the next one

Cheers for all the positive comments from those I did speak to

Cheers

Today is the day - hahaha

See you all tonight

Yea mate, even gave it a wash today to get it ready lol

Long time no update. Haha

Feel free to ask anything, I'm happy to let u know how I got through stuff

Cheers

Here are some pics to with the previous post

Hi all

Wow - long time & some huge changes for myself in that time but hey let's finally have an update

Firstly the good news - the escort is now fully certed & has a wof and reg - a week over 11 yrs off the road!!

Where to start - after getting the leaky diff seals sorted (helps if they were installed in the first place haha) found I had to go down a tyre profile to stop the tyres rubbing on the inner guards (now running 195/45/16)

Then we got the car looked for its cert. Clint is a great guy & helped a lot. Major things were:

Brake disc width - brain fade on my part there but ended up upgrading the aswell, now running 305 x 28 rotors

Struts - was gutted to find out you can no longer weld the strengthening gussets onto them. So,lucky found some struts that my rebuilt shocks fitted & did the coil over conversion

So after getting the cert it was time to get this thing running right.

First off had a very bad misfire, even under very light load. Ended up getting new nissan coils & messing around with plugs and gaps but found a very bad earth on the ignitor & bingo pretty much 95% sorted. Ended up fitting an innovate motorsports afr gauge. And found it to be running very rich, & still had a large miss right up the top of the rev range. Did its first long run to Hamilton & used 30 liters of fuel - oneway!!! So plumbed the bov back into the inlet system... Helped a little... Found a large air leak from the turbo... Helped more... Then as I was about to think about aftermarket ecus etc found the afm was not playing the game, fitted another one & bingo. Wow it really surprised me the performance of the little CA18 lol - oh yea and found the radiator was stuffed so got a nice alloy fenix one, an AE86 one was the perfect size to get between my intercooler piping.

So now just using it as much as I can to find anymore little gremlins & looking forward to my first event. Looking like the Holden club track day at puke on the 16th June.. See how things pan out

I cant get the pics working so if anybody can help out I'll get afew uploaded

Looking forward to meeting some of you at the meet on Wednesday

Cheers

ROB

Will anybody have any stickers? Happy to pay

Could be keen aswell, Can someone confirm all the details

Sounds like it should be a good night

......now to fix the water leak I found last night :-/ hahaha

Hi all

Mine is finally road legal, so Ill been keen to get to my first meet!

All good if another escort joins the fun?

Cheers

ROB

Cheers guys

So close to getting it on the road!!