Baxter

Ahh yeah, that good old what is and isn't a classic debate...

I pretty much would have agreed with kyteler until I think of young people, and that their definition of what is old school to them isn't the same as it is to me. I'm happy to take a slidding approach to definitions as society changes.

Certainly I'll always feel cars of my youth (ie '70s) are more old school to me, but I'm happy to include '80s cars as old school to others...

Maybe we need different levels of "old school"?

Personally I feel the important definition of old school stops when cars started losing their character, and while a mk1 CR-X doesn't have the character of my mk1 Escort, but it does still have plenty more character than modern cars.

I just find it a bit odd that someone would post a link to a heap of injected, plastic bumpered, etc, '80s cars descriding them as "old skool phatness! ", and then in the same breath dis' a CR-X for these very qualities:

The CRX having what? a fancy EFI engine?

sounds a bit high tech to be old school!

dose any one know wat them mini van/wagons are called ?? cheers

The ones with rear seats (ie the wagons, not the vans) are called Travelers.

Still a few years younger than the average graduate with leaf springs, air con didnt exist, 5 speed didnt exist for quite a few cars back then too.

Awww, come on, you're just sore 'coz the poms still made '60s cars well into the '80s.

Anyway, I think you miss my point - a/c, 5-speed, injection, etc were all options on the old school CR-X, just as they were on many '70s cars, Cortinas included.

Mark Baxter

'69 Escort

converted to 1600 GT spec, stripped, suspension, etc. It's not too wild - but there's probably nothing standard left on it

Originally built as a non-cage club car, it is now destined to become a scruffy classic race car.

a host of mark 1 CR-Xs:

'84 CR-X 1.5i

wasting away in garage.

'84 CR-X Si

My new club car, stripped, Bilsteins and loud muffler. Goes ok, but under development.

'86 CR-X Si

Face-lifted mark 1, tidy-ish, my daily runner. Probably actually goes better than the stripped car...

I've owned a succesion of mark 1 Escorts, a couple of Anglias (including a van), and a couple of Cortinas for parts cars

I'd love to build a Lotus Seven replica one day, but lack the welding skills. I have the side-lights already...

I'd also like a tidy mk2 1600 Sport Esky one day, and maybe jap DOHC conversion in a mk1, I'd like to try a Mini, or maybe a fintail Mercedes, or even a Jag of some sort. Oh, and a monster-truck, and world peace...

Um, yeah that's about me.

Unless you want to buy an '84 corolla (on hold - needs minor repairs - cheap) or injected '84 323 2-dr (dereged - very cheap) also have lying around but no time for...

What?

Have you ever driven one?

They certainly aren't new or middle school - a few years older that your average graduate with torsion bar suspension and in the days where you had to specially order air-con, 5-speed etc...

Most anything with wind-up windows is oldschool these days...

Anyone into mark 1 CR-Xs?

Here's my image gallery of a good selection: http://www.redpepperracing.com/gallery/baxter

I'm told an old Accord dizzy can be very easily adapted - ie the toothed wheel from the Escort dizzy can be easly pressed on to the Accord's shaft by a machine shop.

Take an Esky dizzy into a japanese car wreckers and see what looks right.

And let us know what fits...

A bit of car history:

No, not all mk2 RS2000s have the droop-snoot front.

Ford Australia made ones with normal flat front (and I think so did South Africa as well). I don't know if they were all badged as 'RS's, but certainly many were - I'm pretty sure the RS ones were all 2 doors, but they also made 4 door 2-litre Eskys as well...

I don't know about mk2s, but all 'export' market mk1 Escorts have stronger bodies than the UK market - very similar to the GT/RS body (type 49 shell).

Both drop-snoots and flat front 2-drs were homologated for racing as RS2000s.

All RS2000s in NZ are special imports, and there is a mix of UK, Austrilian, and home-made replica ones about...

On topic:

I haven't done it myself, but have considered it many times - there's heaps of sites with lots of detailed conversion info, try google (particularly the UK version http://www.google.co.uk).

Some people are now fitting the injected Serria motor, which I imagine would be great in an Esky.

The 5-speed is a cheap enough box and just as easy to fit as the Cortina 4-speed, and it will make for a heaps better end product.