hobdar

Just now, hobdar said:

So how is it registered as a convertible now? Could it not have been like the Daytona Beach Buggy, where it was brought into New Zealand, and sold as a new Car as a beach buggy and therefore no certificate was required?

Thanks for your input - not trying to avoid certification as there is some other stuff i have to get certified, but if i have to re-engineer the rollcage/seatbelt frame or the chassis strengthining thingy is just a PITA and more cost sunk but hey - sigh if its got to be done its got to be done.

On 03/02/2021 at 16:09, KKtrips said:

As it has not been continuously registered since LVV certification coming into force (1992), then it requires a cert for the change to convertible and it should have had one in 1997.

If you are trying to avoid current requirements, you would need to provide evidence to back up a completion date, something like photos that can be dated, invoices for work related to the modification, insurance documents, a magazine article that confirms the modification and it's identity. However, documents such as statements from previous owners are not acceptable.

I'm not sure the requirements now would be massively different to 1997 so the prudent approach in this case would be for a certifier to assess the vehicle to current requirements and anything that does not meet now that could have met an earlier requirement, would have to be considered by the LVVTA Technical Working Group on a case by case basis, considering the validity of the evidence and the requirements it would have had to meet at the time.

So how is it registered as a convertible now? Could it not have been like the Daytona Beach Buggy, where it was brought into New Zealand, and sold as a new Car as a beach buggy and therefore no certificate was required?

On 01/02/2021 at 19:22, KKtrips said:

If a modification can adequately be proven to have been modified prior to the date of a standard being introduced then the earlier standard can be used. Not every everything has grandfathering rights though.

What in particular are you asking about?

I have a 1962 Volkswagen Beetle - which was made into a convertible, in 1997 it appears to have been re-vinned with new plates and is now currently registered as a VW Beetle Convertible . I am unsure if it was registered as a Convertible prior to this date.

As far as i know everything currently on it - Seatbelt Frame/Roll Cage, Chassis Strengthen, Bigger Tyres and Wheel Spacers have been on it since it was built. LVVTA has no declaration or modification documentation for it, and NZTA tell me it has no record of modification since it was registered as a converitble. Now occasionally when i take it some where for a WOF i get questioned as to where the cert is, and the last guy insisted i get it completely certified. 

I intend to increase the engine size, change the seats and add front disk brakes, which i know i need to get certified, but i want to avoid having to redo the major components like the chassis or the roll bar/seatbelt frame, just cause it was done prior to 1997 or earlier. 

HI

Can anyone explain the Grandfathering system that the LVVTA use and how it applies?

Thanks

Name: Darryl

Location: Wellington Region

Cars you Own: 1962 Volkswagen Convertible (chopped)

Mods: 1776 Engine, Disk brakes, Dual Carbs. - when registered - Body Kit, Roll Bar, Chassis Strengthened and bigger wheels.

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