Toyota Levin AE111 Discussion

[Honda Ass Dragger]

https://lamspeedracing.com/products/oem-toyota-g16e-gts-long-engine-2020-gr-yaris-2023-gr-corolla?srsltid=AfmBOoq8xXfQLIg6yypmap6qg3Tia9dz9SodBRzLWkwPNrsqDMUIkh2R

 

https://www.autosportimports.com.au/product/toyota-g16e-long-engine-assembly-gr-yaris-gr-corolla/

 

https://pumaspeed.co.uk/product-Pumaspeed-Yaris-GR-G16E-Red-Top-Built-Engine_21286.jsp

[Roman]

1 hour ago, Rhyscar said:

Looks like around 400hp is possible NA

Fixed.

There are FWD guys in Puerto Rico running 10 sec quarters with midly modded 2GRs on some spicy gas. 

[~Slideways~]

21 hours ago, Honda Ass Dragger said:

Toyota G16E and box your sorted - else just just build ya 4age 200kw will be plenty fast  

Yeah I reckon this is the one, old stuff now but plenty still around and heaps of support.

My old ae92 had 220kw at the wheels with a basic viscous lsd e58 and with good tires it was great for a fwd.

I'm sure you know, but this is some pretty big scope creep and direction changes, it could take 10 years to finish and in that time K swaps will be also 'old'. 

 

If it was me I'd continue with the awd path but go back to good old 4age. Use a blacktop head, 4agze bottom end (8.9:1 stock pistons, stock rods, twin scroll manifold and aim for relatively conservative 250kw at the wheels.

Maybe use the ae95 gearbox if you can figure out the ratios since they have a live rear axle of 2.9:1

 

 

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2 hours ago, ~Slideways~ said:

Yeah I reckon this is the one, old stuff now but plenty still around and heaps of support.

My old ae92 had 220kw at the wheels with a basic viscous lsd e58 and with good tires it was great for a fwd.

I'm sure you know, but this is some pretty big scope creep and direction changes, it could take 10 years to finish and in that time K swaps will be also 'old'. 

 

If it was me I'd continue with the awd path but go back to good old 4age. Use a blacktop head, 4agze bottom end (8.9:1 stock pistons, stock rods, twin scroll manifold and aim for relatively conservative 250kw at the wheels.

Maybe use the ae95 gearbox if you can figure out the ratios since they have a live rear axle of 2.9:1

 

 

Yeah scope creep is a massive issue

Not sure what will be done before I am over next so will keep having the chat

Its ae115 gearbox spare so same rear diff as the celica

Ive got 2 blacktop heads, a complete 7afe, could pick up some rods and forged pistons etc but could just get it running with the 7a which was the last chat I had, was thinking the K24 would be easier path and better power potential but clearly that isn't the case

 

Can always swap to K series when I move o

it over here (im looking at cheap honda gearboxes sunday)

[Honda Ass Dragger]

Toyota will have there new 2 liter turbo next year the G16E are only going to get cheaper - I'm a Honda fan but K is sold as being cheap power, but in reality there is no cheap power

Toyota A series turbo is pretty proven these days geeze anything over 220kw in a AE111 is going to be fast

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Starting to think I need to organise to come over for a couple of weeks, work out of NZ and make a proper plan/acquire any missing parts

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On 15/05/2025 at 18:15, mjrstar said:

Wow that is quite a journey, I'm pretty sure i would have taken a lazy /easier path and dropped in a complete evo 4-7 drivetrain but I admire the ambition of the frankenstein AWD swap.

I remember doing a rear floor swap on a mirage coupe with a mate of mine, for an awd conversion it was a pretty simple affair due to similarities of Floorplan with evo, and getting a very cheap donor shell that was pretty complete except for a bit of the firewall which had some numbers on it which we didn't need.

In a weekend we had it running and driving on the 1600na but the rear floorpan, diff, awd fuel tank and all the tunnel bracketry was completely installed minus axles and driveshaft when it made the journey from auckland to chch under its own power.

But you appear to have none of these luxuries.

 

I like the idea of the K swap, hopefully the height of the motor doesn't mean you run into dramas with either sump or bonnet clearance, and you can find enough area to land you bellhousing adapter mounting provisions.

Did you toy with the idea of a k24 plus Vw dsg to add more headache to your project? There are adapter kits and controllers for not crazy money.

So did some digging and there is options to modify the Valve/Cam cover to gain some bonnet clearance as needed  

https://kpower.industries/products/modified-k24-valve-cover-for-na-hood

Or if I want to spend crazy money

https://dragcartel.com/products/k-series-billet-valve-cover-with-fuel-pump

But at least there is options

[Roman]

Finishing this project from another country, even if I had no other commitments and lots of money. Would take a level of masochism that not even I possess. 
Have you considered consolidating all of the big ticket items that are hard to source into a small crate, and just starting on an aussie registered shell? 
Seems crazy to end up with a non road legal car (here or there) that you have to fly to another country to use. Even if it was finished.
Just the storage fees is enough to inflame my Dutch blood.
Not meaning to bust your balls, I am keen to see you get something finished and be able to enjoy it.

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55 minutes ago, Roman said:

Finishing this project from another country, even if I had no other commitments and lots of money. Would take a level of masochism that not even I possess. 
Have you considered consolidating all of the big ticket items that are hard to source into a small crate, and just starting on an aussie registered shell? 
Seems crazy to end up with a non road legal car (here or there) that you have to fly to another country to use. Even if it was finished.
Just the storage fees is enough to inflame my Dutch blood.
Not meaning to bust your balls, I am keen to see you get something finished and be able to enjoy it.

Aussie registered shells are hard to get, annoyingly I turned down one about 6months ago (full running car, was in pretty rough condition tho)

Also this car has sentimental value etc, I did have a moment this week considering just writing it all off and trying to get what money back I can. 

Need to put some items back together before I can consolidate anyway.

GT4 gearbox is still apart

My wheels are still brand new in box so might be able to offload them but not sure if Genuine Ray's TE37 are moving much atm. 

Have managed to get a parts car (pending delivery) so I can get the shell more complete/able to be road legal, potentially throw my 7afe into it with my e52 box (might need axles tbc) or pick up an e56 box etc to get it running temporarily, or source bits to go back to a 4age. 

And then see if I can get it wof an reg to drive here, when I visit while I make another plan 

Have reached out to a few freight companies to get quotes to ship, annoyingly its in a state I could go back to stockish rather then race car only and rego is still on hold.

Cant ship without a working handbrake anyway, so need to get things more together 

And yes im definitely hating myself atm over it