Ga3_zo and kp60nick's honda logo of head turning fun.

[Willdat?]

22 minutes ago, kp60nick said:

Apparently yes. They are still in the d series family. Not sure about the electronics. Could be done I'm sure of it.

I managed it so it must be easy, the electronics issues addressed in that thread are pretty simple to resolve.

This was EFI sohc zc to dohc zc.

[SiRge]

Yea did a dohc zc in a shuttle as well with no electronic issues, however even dohc zc are getting pretty rare these days too.

Probably a sohc VTEC from an EK is going to be the cheapest opportunity, but the you'll still need to adapt up to an obd2 ecu, or pay for an ever-so-increasingly expensive obd1 ecu ($200-300 odd, but chippable)

[kp60nick]

On 21/02/2025 at 07:46, SiRge said:

Yea did a dohc zc in a shuttle as well with no electronic issues, however even dohc zc are getting pretty rare these days too.

Probably a sohc VTEC from an EK is going to be the cheapest opportunity, but the you'll still need to adapt up to an obd2 ecu, or pay for an ever-so-increasingly expensive obd1 ecu ($200-300 odd, but chippable)

Maybe this could work?

[SiRge]

Yea, be a goodn

[kp60nick]

Just ticked over one year of ownership with this. The past two months I've been doing the HD auto club circuit days. So far haven't had any problems. It's been so fun squeezing everyone of the 60 horses it has. Its got plenty of body roll but have a plan to solve that with a rear sway bar. Getting tyre pressure right has been a bit of a trick probably need to get a better tyre pressure gauge. Next day is the 25th may.

Also removed the rear muffler and I'm now running it on npd 100 octane not sure if it helps but it sure smells good.

Here's some photos from the last few months

[kp60nick]

Just ticked off the 3rd track day over the weekend. We had a good 6 weeks between days so I had a bit of time to try out improvements.  First thing was trying to tackle the aggresive left front tyre wear by killing the understeer and body roll. 

I asked a few fellow fwd racers and they all said stiff rear / big bar. No factory rear sway for the logo this meant anything I did would need to be custom. I already had a rear sway bar from integra but it was only about 10mm to 12mm so didnt feel it was worth making it work because the difference wouldn't be noticeable. I was poking around the garage and I came across the 24.5mm torsion bars from my Narava. Then came across some honda fit sway bar links. Opened my parts drawer and found some starlet sway bar bushes. 

Started with making some mounts for the bar to mount to the axle. Originally wanted to mount it underneath facing forward but fuel tank was in the way. Facing backward and underneath fouls the panhard as it goes through its travel but the closer it is the arc of the arms doesn't interfere with the panhard. So I made mounts that mount it about level with the bottom on the back face of the axle.  There is just enough room between the axle and panhard for everything. That was the trickiest part after that finding mounting for the body mounts was somewhat easier but still unsure if where I've actually put them is any bit legal but could cut them off and make them bolt on.  (Just tacked in photo)

When testing, I was finding the bar was shifting to the left potentially due the arc of the panhard when going over bumps. I've since put some bolt up hose clamps that seems to have stopped the problem. Also doing test drives it's now started lifting rear wheels when cornering hard and entering driveways. 

Other notable things I changed was trying  out some semi slick ish tyres for the front the are pretty meaty but seem soft and they are cheap. So of course I needed another set of rims which of course needed a complete restoration. So blasted the centers and had Arrow wheels take out the buckle and weld the lips and re polish. Then painted the centers in gloss white. 

The improvements are definitely noticeable I can now keep my foot flat in 3rd gear going into t3 t4 at Hampton club circuit. I was lifting before entering previously. Just feels so much better all round. Could definitely do with a heavier front spring to stop the rear wheel lifting so high (was told almost 200mm high) but still in the testing stages and still managed to consistently be doing 46 seconds (dont know what it was before never had lap timer untill the last two sessions of the day) 

All in all everything was good had a small event with the hub nut starting to come loose but thankfully that was found quickly. 

Looking forward to the next day later this year going to take the winter off to do some other things while weather is crappier. 

 

[GARDRB]

Great, now I'm looking at manual hatchbacks under $3k in the North Island on TradeMe again

[Rhyscar]

This is cool. Great to see rear swaybar worked a treat. Bonus cheapo upgrade might be stiff front swaybar and upgraded bump stops all round. Will improve handling until such a time you can properly address spring rates. 

[mjrstar]

I run exposed wheel centres and white match mark paint between the nut and the axle on my honda. 

Not sure what the torque spec is but I'd say it's more than my torque wrench would deliver, and is exactly what my longest power bar plus a bit of galv pipe is capable of.

[kp60nick]

5 hours ago, Rhyscar said:

This is cool. Great to see rear swaybar worked a treat. Bonus cheapo upgrade might be stiff front swaybar and upgraded bump stops all round. Will improve handling until such a time you can properly address spring rates. 

Thanks for the advice. I've already got a super thick front bar.

The front spring rates are only 2kg or something like that. I have some fit coilovers that I've got to try make work at some stage. Up until then I'll make it work with cheap fixes. 

[kp60nick]

23 minutes ago, mjrstar said:

I run exposed wheel centres and white match mark paint between the nut and the axle on my honda. 

Not sure what the torque spec is but I'd say it's more than my torque wrench would deliver, and is exactly what my longest power bar plus a bit of galv pipe is capable of.

Thanks for the advice. 

[E4shakey]

Did you have a pattern or template for sway bar mounts? And where did you get the links from?

I have all the bits but have same problem with mount. 

[Tauranga Honda]

hey mate where did you get the springs from ??

[kp60nick]

21 hours ago, Tauranga Honda said:

hey mate where did you get the springs from ??

Rhd japan. Or alternatively join the " honda logo modified " facebook page there are plenty of posts on there about springs. Make sure you also get the adjustable panhard bar. 

 

[kp60nick]

So I didnt really stop racing over winter.

july track day

The weather in july was perfect conditions and last minute decision was made. With all the modifications to the rear and removing the abs fuse (it would lift a wheel and have a freak out) I was able to get my laps down to  high 45. Seconds. Came back from that track day hungry for more so I decided to pull the brake lines from a non abs logo at pick a part and drop 5kg removing abs unit I changed the drivers seat to something a bit lighter and add strut brace I've had sitting around for a while. 

August track day

I was excited to try out the new mods unfortunately the weather didn't want to be nice again. With the rear bar and the soft springs I had the best drift car. Removed one of the links and went back to under steering but that was more controlled than the oversteer. Nothing else to report apart from mud.

missed September because of sickness 

October track day

I decided to make a set of new sway bar ends that had a bit of adjustment in them to give myself some more adjustment incase the rain came again. The bottom hole is the same as the original and the other is about 100mm away. When I initially went out on track it felt really good, smoother than before didnt feel like I was floating on a cloud. But I couldn't achieve the same lap times as july. The silly thing about that day I was having understeer problems all day and chasing my tail playing with tyre pressure and driving lines but it didn't make any difference. Not until I got home later I realized I had the sway bar set at the middle hole. I assume that was the difference. Its definitely softer than before I think I will add more steel to try stiffen it up.

 

Cant do Novembers day daughters birthday.

I've  got a full new suspension set up coming up for December day. At this I'll just say custom everything. Hopefully get a wof in the next week and get it ready for the drags.

Thanks for looking