DAD Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 D'ya like dags? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Awesome start! Can you buy the raw extrusion and corners for the expedition style wholesale? surprised to hear the parts are that expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAD Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 Yes, can get all the extruded bits in aluminium from Ullrich (other places too I imagine). The 2 other estimates I've had for the GRP/Foam composite panels for a project of this size have been in the $20k+ range. Better than the 'finished box' price, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWL1FE Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Whats your plan for engine access/cab tilt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAD Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Good question! At the moment erring towards a false floor in the luton. Other idea under consideration is a 'mild tilting' house that pivots at the back and can be raised somewhat at the front on bottlejacks/rams to provide clearance. Need to get my Pythagoras out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transom Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Best option for tilt cab thru loft floor I have seen is loft floor has hinge across the middle and tracks/ rollers on the outside edge - hand winch under cab to raise it before tilt cab - will grab pics off mates one if I’m near it soon Gonna need a lot of room to tilt a twin cab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Even with a normal sleeper cab you can see here on our Hino how much the cab comes up in height as it swings... Here's a pic looking forward with the insulated bedroom floor lifted and cab swung through. You can see the rope and pullys at the front. Hinge for the floor was roughly 300mm ahead of the head board iirc.... Sort of make out the room needed for the front of the cab to swing through... You could always have a lightweight floor that lifts straight up, a rope and pulley in each corner. Avoid the hinge and then have plenty of room for the rear of the cab to swing up. Or make the whole house removable on legs and move the truck out from under for full access. You'll barely ever need to tilt a cab on a Hino anyway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mof Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 There's a few different ways I've seen for doing the cab tilt thing. Hinging the deck at the rear and tilting the entire deck Lifting floor like @yoeddynz And another is hinging the entire above-cab overhang along the roofline and tilting just that section up. (We've had a few horse trucks like this and I'll try get a pic next time one is in, even just for entertainment). This one is electric hydraulic, has a changeover valve from the taillift. Dinky telescopic ram you might just be able to make out about 1-2m under deck. There's another like this but the deck is smaller, lighter, and uses a large bottle Jack just forward of the rear axle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAD Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 That's a really neat method. I had pondered something along the lines of the last one you mentioned using something like this https://www.topmaq.co.nz/8-ton-double-action-hydraulic-long-ram-jack-hyra2050?gclid=Cj0KCQjw8IaGBhCHARIsAGIRRYoW2ZUkaXhw362LU5o7ZCOqoGHUOxV3OF6X1AMLfIYYBcbVn_uG2bgaAuIFEALw_wcB  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Given the length of your cab back from the pivot point you'll need to lift the floor clear by quite some height. With a fully kitted out house on the back it'll be a fair chunk of weight to lift eh. The ones with a hinged up 'luton' section above the cab that Mof talks of- yeah I have seen them too and a friend around the corner from us had started building his like that on his twin steer Hino. But again- if one builds a decent sized bedroom up there you need to allow for a fair old bit of weight to hinge and lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAD Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 The double-cab is the fly in the ointment for sure. Note the past-tense in my previous reply, foldy-tilty-fuckery is off the table at present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Yep- 4 legs added to the box build and simple drive/tow truck out from under 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geophy Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Hey love your project, housetrucks are something I have had minimal involvement with but have spent a bit of time around trucks is there a reason you couldnt make a steel frame and do a outer skin in 1.2mm Ali? Would be quite cost effective and with some insulation and ply over top would be quite a good insulator? Would be quite a similar design principle to how alot of van conversions work. Has the benefit of all your ali work can be done with a skilsaw it cuts really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAD Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Thanks for the input @Geophy! The plan is indeed to make a steel frame with aluminium cladding (actually pondering using aluminium signboard rather than bare ali sheet, but similar concept). Will use wooden battens and ply interior cladding, with rigid insulation (polystyrene or polyurethane) in the voids. In related news some of the steel arrived this week! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Hannah and I are just starting on a coffee cart build for some customers. We'll be using alloy composite cladding for some of it. I think 4.8 kg a sheet I was told. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out as I am normally more of a woodsy cladding type fella. A really good read is this one. Its quite old now but Rob built a very choice 'housetruck (more like a battle truck...) indeed, then another one. He stuck alloy check plate on, first with a industrial grade (but more god like) 3m adhesive tape. But then moved on to a sikaflex adhesive. Its a good read!... http://www.robgray.com/ontheroad/wothahellizat/ Â 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 oh btw- buy lots of teabags and cake. Its a fucking good read that blog and you'll get sucked in. Report back in a weeks time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAD Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 Late for my homework deadline, but I read both builds last night. Really well documented and nice to see his rationale and choices along the way. Thanks for the link! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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