Popular Post nzstato Posted June 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Pic updates, jib done. Painters should be here next week. Also kerb/channel will be done and the nib walls on the old shed can be removed, then can get some new seal down. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 If you have storage elsewhere, I wouldn't leave appliances on site. Shit used to go missing up here all the time from sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzstato Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bling said: If you have storage elsewhere, I wouldn't leave appliances on site. Shit used to go missing up here all the time from sites. Yea, I hear the neighbour is quite dodgy too.... They are pretty good at keeping the place locked up so far. Since that shed got demo I dont really have any space left.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I'm heading to some of your delays. Siteworks have come to a halt, site is too wet. Needs to dry out... rain is forecast for the next two weeks straight. Got an email yesterday saying architect has underestimated the cut and fill requirements. So at this rate will probably hit all the same ones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 21/06/2021 at 14:20, nzstato said: I'm going to do all of the $$ at the end when I know thats what it is but comes into the below buckets. Extra excavations Basing up ground level Taller foundations (bloody council) Retention tank + SW plan Fence, not originally quoted (but the other one was) New Kerb + channel, not originally quoted I hate this stuff. Residential builders working directly for the homeowner are held to a really low standard with regards to transparency. If I were a landowner engaging a builder to build my house, I would expect them to quote everything that was required. If you can't get CCC on a house without a retention tank, then it should be included. It's really not good enough to say "but it's not on the list of inclusions!", the client is not a construction professional who can work through the list and know what's missing. A surgeon wouldn't quote an operation without anesthesia then withhold it because it's an extra. The company I worked for usually worked with a fixed price. We'd often lose jobs to companies who quoted a provisional sum, and several times those people came back and told us that their final cost was (a lot) more than our fixed price. The builders on a provisional sum really don't have the same incentive to be thorough when they're pricing in the first place, and they don't have the same incentive to work to the budget. The numbers are always bigger up front, and you're usually paying for a few more overheads (QS, Admin staff etc), but it's good insurance. On the other hand, some of these items look like either the scope genuinely changed, or the architect didn't provide an adequate design. You can still get cost overruns on a fixed price of course, but there has to be a better reason that "oh, I missed that". 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Sorry, double post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzstato Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sambo said: I hate this stuff. Residential builders working directly for the homeowner are held to a really low standard with regards to transparency. If I were a landowner engaging a builder to build my house, I would expect them to quote everything that was required. If you can't get CCC on a house without a retention tank, then it should be included. It's really not good enough to say "but it's not on the list of inclusions!", the client is not a construction professional who can work through the list and know what's missing. A surgeon wouldn't quote an operation without anesthesia then withhold it because it's an extra. The company I worked for usually worked with a fixed price. We'd often lose jobs to companies who quoted a provisional sum, and several times those people came back and told us that their final cost was (a lot) more than our fixed price. The builders on a provisional sum really don't have the same incentive to be thorough when they're pricing in the first place, and they don't have the same incentive to work to the budget. The numbers are always bigger up front, and you're usually paying for a few more overheads (QS, Admin staff etc), but it's good insurance. On the other hand, some of these items look like either the scope genuinely changed, or the architect didn't provide an adequate design. This is everything I'm experiencing, no other area of business could operate this way and still have customers. Needless to say I deal with contracts day-in day-out so I can make life difficult. Also, I now understand the relevant legislation of all of the professional boards as well as the commerce comission and may look to make complaints. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 One of the biggest issues in the industry is that building companies are run by builders. Some of them do it really, really well, but I think they're the minority. Guys start businesses because they're good tradies, but they don't know anything about QSing etc. I don't mean to throw shade at tradies, but many of them have pretty minimal education, and now they're trying to create and administer contracts without knowing/understanding the rules. They're mostly learning the professional side of construction through trial and error - at your expense. Edit: Many don't even realise that they're working to a contract if it's a verbal agreement to build a fence etc. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nzstato Posted July 15, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2021 Interior is all painted, and they've started on cabinets. Old boy and I have been working on the decking, landscaper is booked in for end of the month and asphalt after CoC 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nzstato Posted July 15, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2021 This is more interesting though.... I have a spot on our villa section where this should slot in nicely.... 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimShadboltfan27 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 @nzstato might be a /ling but always puzzles me why driveway and landscaping aren’t part of CCC. Did your contract with the builders include lawn and a drive or did you agree to exclude these and do yourself? When we value shit off the plans it’s always tricky when we do completion reports to release all the funds and they have no lawn or pathways, and are still using a pallet as a front doorstep … house isn’t exactly “complete” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzstato Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 I hear ya @TimShadboltfan27. The contract had driveway in it (need to have 5m+ sealed for council). I had said at the start I’d sort the decking etc. apparently can get ccc with just ‘temporary’ steps but that seems dodge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I had temporary steps / pallets at my place as I think by rights, smooth side up decking doesn't meet "slip factor" for code. Could be wrong mind, but wasn't an issue I was willing to deal with. Pretty sure up here the driveway just needs to be formed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzstato Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 This is the specific wording in my subdivision consent "The new vehicle crossing must be formed to a minimum 3.0m width, be hard surfaced from the edge of the carriageway for a minimum 5.0m towards the property boundary, and be adequately drained." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzstato Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 Some of this weekends progress.... getting the little labour units to contribute... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzstato Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 Some more progress this weekend, alot of the interior fit out is well progressed. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nzstato Posted July 25, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 Also been continuing our decking and dug out for a new fence section. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzstato Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Deck complete, fencing done. Schedule has us completed next week with asphalted driveway ready for my landscaper. Very close to getting this back on the market.... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Looking good, but one small observation.. decking grooves down is best practice in my humble opinion.. each to their own though (now let the debate start) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Yeah as above I was also about to say. The grooves were originally used down so the timber could breathe and didn't rot between the connections. Somewhere along the line some suit decided it was good for grip and is now policy to have it up. From my experience it can be fucken dangerous when wet with less surface area for your shoe to grip, especially when in a shaded spot. Hardwood is even worse and on some jobs we've had to put put sand down to make it safe (while we're there anyway). We used antislip tape along the front edge of any steps when we built our deck, mainly for oldies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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