Yowzer Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 How the hell did they get the silver / black top names if the silver or black top is meaningless? Sounds like the whole designation is meaningless tbh, and it's nothing more than a construct of Barry's who like to sound like they know what they're talking about 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Yowzer said: How the hell did they get the silver / black top names if the silver or black top is meaningless? Sounds like the whole designation is meaningless tbh, and it's nothing more than a construct of Barry's who like to sound like they know what they're talking about This is serious stuff in patrol 4x4, don't belittle it; JFF45 Import Safari are a special mix of components. For Australia we have Silvertop 8/87 to 7/95 Valve recessed pistons 28mm pin 950 grams piston and pins. Regardless of rocker cover colour. 25mm camshaft followers, Vac pump on alternator. Short squirters. Rear oil seal press in 86mm. 6 bolt crankshaft 61mm PCD, 58mm front oil seal. 18mm long oil pump gears. Blacktop 8/95 to 5/96 flat top pistons 28mm pin 1070 grams piston and pins. 26mm camshaft followers, Vac pump on alternator. Short squirters. Rear oil seal press in 86mm. 6 bolt crankshaft 61mm PCD, 58mm front oil seal. 18mm long oil pump gears. Blacktop 6/96 to 9/97 flat top pistons 30mm pin 960 grams piston and pins. 26mm camshaft followers, Vac pump under IP. Short squirters. Rear oil seal press in 86mm. 6 bolt crankshaft 61mm PCD, 58mm front oil seal. 18mm long oil pump gears. GU N/A 10/97 to 11/2002 flat top pistons 30mm pin 960 grams piston and pins. 26mm camshaft followers, Vac pump under IP. Short squirters. Rear oil seal Unitised 86mm. 6 bolt crankshaft 62mm PCD, 58mm front oil seal. 18mm long oil pump gears. GU Turbo 02/99 to 7/2007 flat top pistons oil gallery cooled piston 1150 grams piston and pins. 26mm camshaft followers, Vac pump under IP. Long tube squirters. Rear oil seal Unitised 96mm. 7 bolt crankshaft 72mm PCD, 60mm front oil seal. 21mm long oil pump gears. The change to the vac pump is very difficult to confirm seems there is lots of conflicting data even in the manuals of AUS supply. The 25mm camshaft follower has a very different camshaft fitted to the silvertop. It is quite different to the camshafts fitted after the actual silvertop model. This has quite a bearing on why the turboed silvertop produces torque and power differently from all models after. Also added to this the head for the actual silvertop is different for the black top even the 28mm pin blacktop it also has different precomb which have a slightly smaller chamber volume and shape. I can confirm this outright it seems all 26mm followers camshafts are the same timing and profile right through to the T model engine. But there is 5 part numbers for the TD42 engine world wide, which is interesting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Ok, so you have 1st gen, 2nd gen, 3rd gen and 4th gen. Ain't that easier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 That's not barry enough clearly. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Can't make a 85 minute sharn out of something that simple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 https://debossgarage.com/ics2021 I think you should enter this monsoir pawg. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 20:15, ThePog said: Ah I maybe should have been clearer, both types came with both colours of tappet colour.... And @yoeddynz, that means you need to strip it and measure gudgeons to be really sure.... Fuck that. I'll find out what it is one day when it sends a rod through the case after I try to pass a nissan tiida (insert any other typically slowly driven modern car) on a slight downhill using gravity to aid punching the Bedford beyond its normal safe working speed. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 17 hours ago, kyteler said: https://debossgarage.com/ics2021 I think you should enter this monsoir pawg. I had a look though some of the entries, I am quite gratified you think it's interesting enough to compete. I don't know how well it would do against some of those no rules american builds though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, ThePog said: I had a look though some of the entries, I am quite gratified you think it's interesting enough to compete. I don't know how well it would do against some of those no rules american builds though. You get to choose your categories to compete in, definitely a worthy candidate in my mind. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transom Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Yep well worthy of an entry - skid factory will love it cos safari and surely there is some worthy bracketry - tis a very cool well executed clean looking conversion 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cletus Posted March 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2021 Yeah I reckon it deserves a spot for sure One of the best things about it IMO is you couldnt find a vehicle to do all the things you wanted So you just made one yourself, with some clever recycling and fabrication It's only some fancy paint, hi tech light bars and some 22" wheels away from being a SEMA winner anyway? 9 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 Shit that is some vinyl wrap, a trip to repco and finding one of the dozen or so tuff rangers on literally any street in NZ to put up on blocks. I will see what I can do... cheers all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePog Posted March 14, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 That pump is in, it runs and no longer pisses black smoke so thats a win. The rattle is still there so that means its the engine, so thats a fail. That means the NA pump is probably better condition than I thought, so I can sell it as a runner, so thats a win. It took twice as long as I thought it would as I had it 100% back together ready to run up, and as I went up to lunch I had a thought to check if the stop solenoid was 12v or 24v. Guess what? 12v. Shit. So out it all came so i could swap it for a 24v one as I couldnt get to it with it sitting in there. Stink. It isnt quite as lively off the mark as before, probably due to the actually appropriate fuel levels. I will run it for a bit and see if the various wicks will need turning up... The engine rattle solution is probably a proper rebuild of the spare short block that I have, assuming all is well with it the boys at Mean Machine reckoned about 3k to make it proper with new pistons etc. The head and fuel pump are sorted so those can get bolted on probably. I parked it out in the sun and took some competition winning pics, yay. Then I wiped the copious smeg off my phone lens and did it again.. 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePog Posted March 14, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 https://debossgarage.com/ics2021/entry/1615686997-2020-dynafari-scratch-built 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mof Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Suggest lose that dodgy lightweight loop on the rear and put on one of these http://www.jost.nz/fileadmin/user_upload/jostnz.co.nz/pdf/bpcph20wmk.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Mof said: Suggest lose that dodgy lightweight loop on the rear and put on one of these http://www.jost.nz/fileadmin/user_upload/jostnz.co.nz/pdf/bpcph20wmk.pdf That loop is OG factory goodness, so yes I'll probably replace it at some stage.... I have been thinking about converting the towbar to a socket type, as well as modding the front bar the same. That way I could potentially mount a winch front or back as needed. It might be overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakotom Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Man you need to get this out in the mud with @kprs hilux. that would be a killer combo. Man I enjoy this truck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 14/03/2021 at 19:21, ThePog said: It might be overkill. Nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Evan Posted March 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2021 Have you considered making an extra LWB version? 5 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Chuck the back end of a HiAce on it and make a limo 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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