Hurmeez Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Preaching to the choir there mate. I often think about how many kms I could have already done if I'd just stuck with the Pinto and thrown a lumpy cam in it. May have even driven the car to school before I left. Instead, here I am still bashing my head against an alloy v6 that barely fits. But hey, if I wanted it to be easy I could have bought a finished one in the first place, and where's the fun in that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 You'll be soooooooooo happy when you first hear that V6 wailing past 6000. It will all be worth it- trust me Such sweet engines! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.p.n.s Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hurmeez said: Preaching to the choir there mate. I often think about how many kms I could have already done if I'd just stuck with the Pinto and thrown a lumpy cam in it. May have even driven the car to school before I left. Instead, here I am still bashing my head against an alloy v6 that barely fits. But hey, if I wanted it to be easy I could have bought a finished one in the first place, and where's the fun in that? That's why most of us are on old-school. We all have that in common lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 @yoeddynzI'd be embarrassed to tell you how many times I've watched the video of your first startup Alex just to keep myself on track. That and videos of MX3s with ITBs dorting in some kid's driveway. I can tell you I am so looking forward to hearing it zing up that high. I might take you up on that offer of your maps too. I was originally going to go ITBs, even got so far as importing a set of BMW ones from Germany, but it turns out with the space that I have and my now somewhat reduced budget due to the said unusable ITBs, your style of manifold is my only real option. @d.p.n.s It's a sickness for sure! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Oh I know- if it wasnt for the extra weight, which is fuck all really, I'd be slinging my spare KLZE into the wagon and not a Duratec. I just know that the four pot will never sound as lush as the V6 nor will it ever have the same mid range grunt. But time for change and I want to save my v6 for a future mid engine lmp style build (way way way in the future...) So I shall just sit back and live the V6 dream by watching you and that "a bit slack right now eh..." @Transom do your builds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 I just pulled the motor and box out for the next stage of work and yeah it was pretty heavy but I could still lift one end at a time unassisted. I'm really curious to know the weight difference. Maybe one of these days I'll sling the pinto and type 9 up on the hoist with a scale and compare the two. I'd say the iron block on the pinto should make it a fairly even match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.p.n.s Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Must admit one if my favorite videos on YouTube is your car @yoeddynz with Matt Farrar on smokimg tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 He broke my handbrake cable.. but we did get lunch, dinner and joints supplied Plus it was a fun interesting day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.p.n.s Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, yoeddynz said: He broke my handbrake cable.. but we did get lunch, dinner and joints supplied Plus it was a fun interesting day. Lol....i bet it was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hurmeez said: I'm really curious to know the weight difference. In my quest to work out what I could get away with I have weighed everything to do with the V6. With everything on a standard engine with flywheel, clutch, alternator, excluding the exhaust manifolds and inlet manifold but including the cut down inlet flanges with injectors attached it weighs in at 135kg. The manifold I made was pretty light, maybe 5kg. The single mazda TB is 415 grams. Steel fabricated exhaust manifolds wont weigh much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 That's interesting. The interwebs reckon the RX-8 box is 46 kg dry so that gives us a nominal weight of ~185 kg give or take. Compared to 31kg for the Type 9 gearbox, plus 135kg for a "fully dressed" pinto, gives a total of ~170kg. So ultimately they appear to be very similar. Theoretically anyway. Makes for an interesting thought experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Also what do you mean by "joints" being supplied? Surely that's not what I think it means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.p.n.s Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hurmeez said: Also what do you mean by "joints" being supplied? Surely that's not what I think it means? Probably does.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, d.p.n.s said: Probably does.... Love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 He is a Californian after all. Yeah so it was a chilled out day inhaing nature and talking about mad car projects and fluffy cats.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 What a sweet gig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transom Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, yoeddynz said: and that "a bit slack right now eh..." @Transom do your builds Oi ... I did some v6 stuff today - you guys have it easy with the front sump chassis and the precision tools - I did some machining with a hacksaw and a file 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Everything you do is one less thing to do later on. That's what keeps me going mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.p.n.s Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Transom said: Oi ... I did some v6 stuff today - you guys have it easy with the front sump chassis and the precision tools - I did some machining with a hacksaw and a file I feel ya. Even.my ruler is wrong dimensions. And my milling machine is the same grinder I use to cut things up with. Lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.p.n.s Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 hay man regarding the ITBs ..cant make them fit this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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