Popular Post chris r Posted May 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2017 So you want to bring your vehicle home from the usa and can't find a write up either well here is the process I went/am going through. My memory isn't 100% but I'll make is as accurate as possibly I found my van in phoenix and had a friend look over it, He gave the ok and went and got it. If you are lucky you can get your friend/contact etc to act as a agent for you saving a $75 us title transfer fee. Make sure you get a bill of sale at this point in time. Now is the time to order whatever parts you want and stick them in said car. When you are ready contact your exporter/shipper, They will give you a SLI form. you'll need to fill in your details and the sellers or the person acting as your agents details. Complete it and send it off to the shipper. Your agent then should hand the title, bill of sale and and any receipts for parts along with the vehicle over to the shipper. When the container lands you will get a arrival notice. If you do not have a customs client code you'll fill in a form and send it off with proof of photo id. When that has been processed you will get a customs certificate shortly followed by a a invoice for gst and customs fees. For me in may 2017 they are customs import transaction fee of nz$42.85+gst and customs facility fee of 49.99 + gst, You will also pay import gst. My understanding is this worked out on the total cost of parts, the vehicle, and all shipping to nz. Pay this and a few days later you will get a invoice for shipping. I've broken it down here - Fumigation - 165+ - Destination cartage 235+ -Destination port service charge 395 - International freight 2270 - Origin cartage (im my case shipping from phoenix to la, $450 usd) - 687 - EDI processing fee 40+ - Customs clearance 65+ - Container handling - 150 - MPI inspection fee - 85.00+ - NZTA border inspection fee - 95+ Once that is cleared (I've just paid so i'll update this later) you'll receive the release documents and be able to collect your ride. I assume I will recieve my title and bill of sale upon collection of the van TLDR: A rough cost (less duty) for a van from LA to Auckland in a container is NZ$3611.74 Add $100 for customs fees and 15% of the vehicle purchase price & shipping. Hopefully this helps people on here who are thinking about bringing something back from usa. I asked/researched as much as I could and had a idea of the process but not what the costs were, its a bit more than I expected but I expected that I used cfrline to bring my van back and am happy with their service so far 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris r Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Pickup was a piece of piss. When the money cleared I received the receipt documents. Printed them off, turned up they got the vehicle out and I drove it home. The title and bill of sale were in their office and I had them couriered out so all is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Hey @chris r can you please give me a run down of the process after getting the car into the country? I've been doing some reading and it looks like I need to put my car through an entry certifier (VINZ or VTNZ) and they'll assess whether the car needs any repair work/what the repair work needs to be (which it does), then it goes to a repair certifier? Is that about right mate? My flatmate is a certified welder and I'm wanting him to do the repairs on the car so where does he fit in on the whole process? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Vapour Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 That's part of the repair cert. All structural repairs must be performed by a ticketed welder. But yeah get it in, send it to compliance, get repair certifier, complete repair works. And then back to vtnz with repair paper work. Don't do any repair work other than mechanical , ie replacement of worn parts till repair cert processes has started. They want to co trol the processes from start to finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, Mr Vapour said: That's part of the repair cert. All structural repairs must be performed by a ticketed welder. I'm not sure that is required, particularly for older vehicles. The repair certifier I saw recently about my imported rust bucket was happy for me to do the work myself. With this one, someone else imported it and it was rust flagged at the border (hardly surprising). I have had a VIN assigned at VTNZ and then had it looked at by the repair certifier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris r Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, j.e.d. said: Hey @chris r can you please give me a run down of the process after getting the car into the country? I've been doing some reading and it looks like I need to put my car through an entry certifier (VINZ or VTNZ) and they'll assess whether the car needs any repair work/what the repair work needs to be (which it does), then it goes to a repair certifier? Is that about right mate? My flatmate is a certified welder and I'm wanting him to do the repairs on the car so where does he fit in on the whole process? cheers Yes that's correct for when I went through the process. The engineer will tell you what needs repairing and will sign the repairs off when they are happy with what's done. Flatmate welder will be after repair certifier (engineer) has told you what needs to be done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Sweet.. thanks guys The chassis has had some patches added over time which I know will be an issue so I've picked up a replacement chassis (thankfully LHD like mine). I was tempted to transfer everything over on to that one before getting the car checked just to make one less thing for them to have an issue with.. you reckon there is merit in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Can you recommend a particular testing station to put it through? I remember when I took my softail custom through certification a few years ago VINZ in Sylvia Park was really good to deal with. Also, any repair certifiers anyone can recommend? South Auckland ways that like old chevs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr Vapour said: That's part of the repair cert. All structural repairs must be performed by a ticketed welder. But yeah get it in, send it to compliance, get repair certifier, complete repair works. And then back to vtnz with repair paper work. Don't do any repair work other than mechanical , ie replacement of worn parts till repair cert processes has started. They want to co trol the processes from start to finish. Just re-read your post man.. so not a good idea to just go ahead & change the chassis over without them seeing it and telling me I need to replace it. I'm not interested in doing anything dodgy but I'd like to save some time/money if I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris r Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 Re the chassis, if there is no numbers or id stamped on them personally I'd swap it first. I'm no expert, only complied a couple of vehicles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Nah nothing. It's an old Chev so only tags are on the firewall. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Vapour Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, j.e.d. said: Nah nothing. It's an old Chev so only tags are on the firewall. Cheers Yeah what Chris said. Info numbers or tags just swap it prior to inspection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 16 hours ago, Mr Vapour said: That's part of the repair cert. All structural repairs must be performed by a ticketed welder. 15 hours ago, Nominal said: I'm not sure that is required, particularly for older vehicles. The repair certifier I saw recently about my imported rust bucket was happy for me to do the work myself. Yeah ticketed welder for rust repairs is a wives tale, I don't think there are any tickets for such work. the closest would some kind of panelbeating/sheetmetal qualification? doesn't mean a ticketed welder is bad at rust repairs, but it doesnt mean theyre good at it either - it is a somewhat different type of welding. welding tickets are typically for structual steel, pressure equipment and airplane stuff, maybe other safety critical applications. and even then there is not actually anything called a welding ticket. You have weld procedure specifications (WPS) and welders can then be qualified to the WPS and gain a procedure qualification record (PQR) is the correct terminology. The PQR is completely specific to what is on the WPS, e.g if it is pipe welding it might be carbon steel, in a certain position, tig root run and SMAW (stick) cap. the type of tig wire and stick electrodes will be specified, the range of allowable welding settings, sheilding gas type, the piping will have fitup dimensions and bevels specified, minimum temperatures, allowable interpass temperatures, a range of diameter and thickness above and below the tested qualifying weld that the WPS can be used for. Then if you need to weld structual steel sections, or stainless steel, or significantly larger or smaller pipes you then need another WPS and PQR appropriate for the application. then for each PQR you need to have tested qualifying welds on a regular basis - it is not an indefinite qualification. tl:dr welding qualifications (tickets) for industrial welding have almost no application to most automotive repair work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Yea pretty sure what you're saying is what my flatmate is doing. He works for a steel fab shop in Drury & works on all sorts of industrial jobs. He mentioned the other day he's got his certification now & is real keen to work on my car (he's a young guy who is positive & self motivated so I'm happy to encourage that) He really enjoys his job, so what he lacks in automotive welding I'm sure he will make up for it with better skill than me haha. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 oh yeah I don't mean someone with a ticket is bad choice at all, esp if they are keen on doing the work that is excellent. someone qualified should very well know how to drive an arc and not dip tungstens etc. just whether they have experience working with thin and rusty stuff is the question really, while the basics are the same there are alot of technique things that are different. much more to do with not burning holes and minimising warpage vs on thicker stuff where the important parts are getting penetration and preventing any inclusions etc. to ensure passing NDT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thats true mate.. I do hope that it'll all work out as it'll be his first go at working with panel steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Shout him a rusted door and some sheetmetal to practice on. Cut some holes in it and cut some panels to be welded in. That way when he gets to the actual car, he has it dialed in. Same theory for everyone really, you don't start on the actual job. 2c 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Vapour Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Sorry my use of terms may have been off. Just passing on information I recently accuired I'm August I had several conversations with a repair certifier. He was very specific that all structural repairs need to be performed by a qualified welder and proof had to be provided of the qualifications and of them performing the work. A d he pretty much told me that most of my car was structural work. I asked if I could do it my self if I provided evedence of being a competant welder and was in no way possible. I questions if this was a recent thing as I thought that I was able to do it my self. He said things changed acouple of years ago. He even said he could point me in the direction of courses that would provide the minimum stranded required. I did not ask any more questions after this as to the exact details of the qualifications needed. I started doing maths in my head and quickly worked out my she'll was not going to worth fixing for a road car. There must be unit standards or something simple that must be held 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corbie Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 AS/NZS1554.1:2014 https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/light-vehicle-repair/general-repairs/welding Quote Welding must be completed to NZS 1554 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.e.d. Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 14:43, Bling said: Shout him a rusted door and some sheetmetal to practice on. Cut some holes in it and cut some panels to be welded in. That way when he gets to the actual car, he has it dialed in. Same theory for everyone really, you don't start on the actual job. 2c Good call.. I have a spare door which needs repair work to it so he can practice on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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