supercarry Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Hi all, first time posting here. I have a 1986 Suzuki Super Carry that I have had no end of engine trouble with. After yet another incident and faced with the prospect of pulling it out only to temporarily fix it and then be in this situation again 6 months down the track I have decided to look into doing something a bit different. It currently has an F10a 970cc SOHC w/ 5spd gearbox. Ideally I'd love to put a 12a bridgy or a Hayabusa or something crazy like that in it but a lack of funds prevents that. for now.... However I have been seriously looking into rebuilding and sprucing up the current engine a bit - port and polish, mild cam, play around with intake side a bit and see what I can achieve. I am also looking into some ... less involved engine swaps and am interested in something like a K10a, K12a, G13b out of other small Suzukis or an 1100 or 1300 out of a Morris or a small boxer engine or something. Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions/information/advice? Thanks in advance!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTERUS Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Tang, de sprang. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Night Shamalayan Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Had a mate with a 12a powered one. The most scared I've ever been in a vehicle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercarry Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Yea I've just been reading through your forum post from 2013 in search of inspiration and saw mention of that there, I did see a 12a powered one up on trademe a wee while back and am kicking myself for not buying it now. Definitely the way I want to go. Do you know much about how much work went into getting it legal (assuming it was). I've heard all sorts from some hilariously misinformed people ranging from 'you'll never get cert for it' to 'slap it in and she'll be right'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Night Shamalayan Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Was WOF/reg/certed when he bought it I believe. The best person to get advice from re: cert is the certifier you'll use for the process tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercarry Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Yea sorry I realise that is kind of a 'how long is a piece of string' question a bit. I have spoken to a certifier and basically got told "well bring it in and show me when you've done it and we'll see" so I guess I'll go down that track when I'm actually ready to. In the mean time I just want a bit more go out of it without going too crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB8-TypeR Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 If you are going to swap the engine eventually then rather than spend thousands on the current engine only to rip it out, why not spend the minimum required to get it going then save the rest for the engine swap. Means you get your new engine faster and arnt left with a $3000 paper weight that is the old engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead96 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I remember this. Saw it at the 4 & Rota's in nelson last year. +1 vote for 12a bridgeport Dunno what the supply is like in nz but what about a LJ50 2 stroke inline 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Night Shamalayan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I pipe dreamed about an h22a Honda engine and gearbox mounted between the rear wheels for mine. Easy as. Bolts up in a weekend 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threeonthetree Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 PM masonh38. He's my mate who lives around the corner and is working his F10a in his Fronte coupe thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R100 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Any rotary conversion is going to cost you a heap of cash. You will have to upgrade your diff as well. Because the van is so short and your limited to space under the seats the only thing with any decent grunt that will fit will be a rotary. You can always mount something behind the seats but then the drive shaft is too short so your going to have to fit a independent rear. How about drop a subaru engine and box in it. You could space the engine from the box to make the engine more mid mounted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercarry Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Db8 - Yea I have been thinking that too, I haven't quite finished pulling it out yet so once I have and have worked out what's gone wrong I would definitely look at just that - if it's cheap enough to fix up just do that and keep saving for a rotary. My other way of thinking though is i'm really sick of cruising at 85kmh and would love something with a bit more pep. If anyone had come across a bolt out/bolt in replacement not requiring too much dicking around and not going to cost me too much I would still be pretty keen to look into that. Or, if its going to cost to much to fix for now I may also just park it up, pick up a cheap runabout and start slowly getting it ready for the rotary. Metalhead96 - Had considered using an engine from some of those older series, had been looking most seriously at an F6a turbo as I understand they would bolt straight in. I don't know if the LJ50 would give me quite as much power as I'd like, from what I can see they'd be about half the factory hp of the F10a whereas the turbo F6a can give a bit more. The only problem with that I think would be that mounted tilted like I don't know if it'd get enough oil up top (especially being DOHC instead of SOHC) without a bit of playing around. I don't know though... Bwarp - Is that a caffeine fueled weekend in a fully stocked workshop with an army of mechanics? Threeonthetree - Will do, thank you R100 - Yes unfortunately I am aware of that Would be looking at doing the lot though, want to make sure it's safeish too. Wider axle, new brakes, new diff, new gearbox, lowered and sitting wider, the list goes on and the price adds up.. That's why I keep coming back to them, perfect size to fit in! I mean when you start with a 1L that's barely squeezed in there on an angle it doesn't give you too much option to try fit more grunt easily. Had thought about trying to attempt a mid mount but would prefer the engine under the seat - leaves more room for subs in the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Night Shamalayan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 If you don't want to cruise at 85 everywhere, I believe the diff from a Suzuki (sj410??) has a taller ratio that will help you cruise a bit nicer. Been a while since I looked into it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercarry Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I will look into that, actually yea would make sense that the Samurai and the likes are geared longer. Those parts seem to be easier to find too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzukiNotSoSupercarry Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Sorry to comment on such an old post but did you eventually do anything? I'm in the same situation of having a 1986 Super Carry but am sick of cruising at 85! I dream of slapping a 4age in but I think it'd probably be way too big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I don't think there are many options. The way the motors are so layed over can make it very hard. Motor bike engine? Although, suck through carb turbo or super charger would be lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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