igor Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Is there still an economy advantage with a small diesel vehicle when ruc is taken into account or does it then come pretty close to a similarly sized petrol vehicle cost wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfashark Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Pretty tight now, it's just the extra shagging around with the RUC admin that created headaches for us. Funnily enough, RUC changes and submissions are on the cards... RUC has the potential to be coming to all motor vehicles in the future, with not a lot of talk about reducing the excise tax on juice either. In fact, more discussion about using the revenue created to fund non-road things. https://www.transport.govt.nz/consultations/road-user-charges-consultation/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, igor said: Is there still an economy advantage with a small diesel vehicle when ruc is taken into account or does it then come pretty close to a similarly sized petrol vehicle cost wise? Probably cheaper in a small vehicle to run a petrol i suspect.. Last time I ran the numbers her car costs more in RUC than fuel per 1000km. I suspect it may have changed at current fuel prices. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Alfashark said: Pretty tight now, it's just the extra shagging around with the RUC admin that created headaches for us. Funnily enough, RUC changes and submissions are on the cards... RUC has the potential to be coming to all motor vehicles in the future, with not a lot of talk about reducing the excise tax on juice either. In fact, more discussion about using the revenue created to fund non-road things. https://www.transport.govt.nz/consultations/road-user-charges-consultation/ I doubt the general population will swallow having to pay over 50% of the cost of fuel in taxes, pay over $3 a litre for fuel, and then also pay an extra fee per kilometer, knowing that the money will be used for things that aren't to do with transport, while also having to endure the pot holed goat track that is called a "road" in nz, while also only being allowed to traverse that road at a reduced rate of speed compared to 5 years ago But hey, tell us that each individual has their own luminescence, yeah that will make it OK 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfashark Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Oh absolutely agreed! Interesting that there is some very specific wording in there relating to the damage being inflicted on our roads, eg: Heavy transport vehicles. So make the big boys pay more and be done with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 And the drivers of little cars/k11s should pay nothing. Because we bring a smile to your dial and what harm could we possibly do to the roads. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, cletus said: I doubt the general population will swallow having to pay over 50% of the cost of fuel in taxes, pay over $3 a litre for fuel, and then also pay an extra fee per kilometer, knowing that the money will be used for things that aren't to do with transport, while also having to endure the pot holed goat track that is called a "road" in nz, while also only being allowed to traverse that road at a reduced rate of speed compared to 5 years ago But hey, tell us that each individual has their own luminescence, yeah that will make it OK May feel like a goat track to you plebs without springs, but in my car with lush springs it feels like.... a goat track 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I sent that post as a submission, hah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 A guy was telling me he did some promotional work for when they were selling the Triumph 2500 in NZ and on the economy test he would put a milk bottle full of petrol into the oil witch would thin out the oil and then be pulled into the combustion thrugh the PCV system and make the economy a bit better. 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 20/02/2022 at 09:49, yoeddynz said: Thread dredge. This thread is even more relevant with todays soaring fuel prices. But rather than fill the climate change thread with econobox chat I thought I'd float @Roman thread back up to the surface. I have a question.... I have been waking up in cold sweats ever since selling Milly the micra to @Willdat? because I fear that he has got the more economical car from our horde The reason I think our Minky might be a tad thirstier is because of the LSD (no - not the drugs) I'm wondering if the fact the outside wheel has to travel further on every bend but its creating friction within the LSD unit - energy lost into that lovely viscous gloop? Or is it just because I'm having too much fun driving it with passion. Also- Milly had 155 tyres when we sold her. Minky is shod with 175 (possibly soon to be 195...) - interested to see how much difference width can make? Big block racecar. My 1.0 k10 shod with plastic biscuits used to go Manchester-london and back for about £20. Not sure on the mpg, but it was a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 600 kg cars them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muncie Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 23/02/2022 at 15:06, SOHC said: A guy was telling me he did some promotional work for when they were selling the Triumph 2500 in NZ and on the economy test he would put a milk bottle full of petrol into the oil witch would thin out the oil and then be pulled into the combustion thrugh the PCV system and make the economy a bit better. I played around with water injection on my triumph basically wound all carbs as lean as they'd go so it would lose power and ping then feed it water to stop the detonation. Was gutless but it did make it go much further on a tank, the clouds of water vapour coming out of it were quite comical as well. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Muncie said: I played around with water injection on my triumph basically wound all carbs as lean as they'd go so it would lose power and ping then feed it water to stop the detonation. Was gutless but it did make it go much further on a tank, the clouds of water vapour coming out of it were quite comical as well. My 76 2500 TC ran out of petrol once and I was given a 60L drum about 1/4 of kerosene, disconnected the rubber fuel line before the pump and had a bottle full, thing took a wile to start but ran and drove ok but knocked alot and made white smoke, wouldn't turn off with the key and I needed to hold my hand over the intake to stop the engine 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locost_bryan Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 23/02/2022 at 15:06, SOHC said: A guy was telling me he did some promotional work for when they were selling the Triumph 2500 in NZ and on the economy test he would put a milk bottle full of petrol into the oil witch would thin out the oil and then be pulled into the combustion thrugh the PCV system and make the economy a bit better. Documentary on the 1976 Mobil Economy Run, won outright by a Triumph 2500 (7.2l/100k), other classes (based on sales tax brackets) won by Austin Allegro (6.3l/100k), Triumph 2000 (8.5l/100k), and Holden Kingswood (9.7l/100k). Bonnets were lockwired after scrutineering to anyone rorting the system. https://www.ngataonga.org.nz/collections/catalogue/catalogue-item?record_id=66911&fbclid=IwAR1lFRkGWl2GIWOAAWdEkI2oCk8zlwnmn53bBvMk8qHzkJC6FIyWiOwwnnI 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 What's the best option for a long open road commute, Christchurch - Ashburton daily, about 80km each way? Possibly not the best route for a hybrid / aqua? Is the E-note still recommended @Willdat?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, locost_bryan said: Documentary on the 1976 Mobil Economy Run, won outright by a Triumph 2500 (7.2l/100k), other classes (based on sales tax brackets) won by Austin Allegro (6.3l/100k), Triumph 2000 (8.5l/100k), and Holden Kingswood (9.7l/100k). Bonnets were lockwired after scrutineering to anyone rorting the system. https://www.ngataonga.org.nz/collections/catalogue/catalogue-item?record_id=66911&fbclid=IwAR1lFRkGWl2GIWOAAWdEkI2oCk8zlwnmn53bBvMk8qHzkJC6FIyWiOwwnnI You could still tip the petrol in before they did the inspection, no one would know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Nominal said: What's the best option for a long open road commute, Christchurch - Ashburton daily, about 80km each way? Possibly not the best route for a hybrid / aqua? Is the E-note still recommended @Willdat?? Put all that extra car buying cash into fuel and its a no brianer 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locost_bryan Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, SOHC said: You could still tip the petrol in before they did the inspection, no one would know Pretty sure they were scrutineered at a Mobil garage, refilled with fresh Mobil oil, fuel tank drained and filled from the garage pumps via a certified measuring device. The only dodgy liquids were those that the crews imbibed at the pub each night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, tortron said: Put all that extra car buying cash into fuel and its a no brianer No two-wheeled death machines thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 There's a gn250 trike on the east coast. Won't be as economic 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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