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Just now, vk327 said:

@chris r i have a spare 36-1 trigger wheel for 202 balancer i used with my link atom on the vk build @flyingbrick done the cad file and got it cut for me, if you go that route with efi 

ooh that'll be amazing. that'd be great so I can do wasted spark and ditch the dizzy

 

3 hours ago, rusty360 said:

If ya dont mind me asking what did ya pay for the manifold?

I paid 150 which I was happy enough with. I was trawling marketplace and found a really old add and messaged the guy on the off chance he still had it
I found a new manifold ex aussie but it was a bit too spenny

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Au 1 falcoon coilpack is the go for a wasted spark setup, along with a bosch triple channel ignitior from a volvo makes an easy setup, nounted my coils on heavy ali angle with the igniter bolted to the bottom using the ali to heat sink, also used a ba falcon VR sensor for the crank pickup, sensor type will depend what ecu you use tho, also check out thesonic injection throttlebody injection stuff for the 9 port 202

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Just now, tortron said:

Would a commodore coil pack work, I have one you can have for free. Take the crank angle sensor too

Commodore ones would work but a pain to wire up as they are designed to fit down on the dfi module base with tabs sticking up on the base for the connections, the au coil has a nice 4pin plug and about $90 new for a bosch one 

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On 21/05/2020 at 09:47, vk327 said:

if you havent got a carb yet check out palmside.co.nz, they  sell  the 32/36  weber new for a reasonable price new, also  if you have the ability to weld a water heating tube to  the bottom of the manifold for anti  icing, done that to  the redline manifold i had on my hq 202  made a huge difference to not having cold fuel pool in the manifold, was running a new 32/36dgv from weber specs,  that and the vk electronic dizzy  worked well on the old 202

I saw they had a reasonably priced 32/36, I scored a 34adm off a falcon for 100 so thats in budget for now and will do the job while I collect bits

I had a look at thesonic 9 port stuff and its a bit spenny. For similar money (once accessories are priced up) I can just go for a fitech or holley 2 barrel tbi setup with hand controler etc
I might steal some of their ideas though if I go further down that rabbit hole

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on my running around this morning I priced up a new au coil and the bosch ignition module. Both were too spenny for my tastes. Had a quick look on trademe and found this. thats a bit more in my budget. I was debating if I get a $20 aliexpress module but decided against it

I sent @vk327 some $ and i've got a fancy crank trigger on the way. 

I've had no luck with finding a tbi off a falcon so am thinking about barrying up a injector setup to bolt onto the manifold. 

Yes ideally the injectors will spray onto a hot valve but I can't tig aluminium etc etc so I'll barry up a tbi setup of some description. one option I'm thinking about is use 3 injectors and aim one down each runner but I'll have a play and see what fits 

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Basically this but with injectors at a angle. It'll be 'fun' figuring out a fuel rail for it that'll work. 

I could also have them nearly vertical and spray onto the floor of the manifold and it can just mist around carb spec 

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be better to  weld or tap in injector bosses above the ports and not have fuel dropout issues that  throttlebody injection has,  efi hardware in ausie do a bunch of different style bosses and also individual injector rail fittings (PS the crank trigger will be on its way as soon as the courier actually picks it up)

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8 hours ago, vk327 said:

be better to  weld or tap in injector bosses above the ports and not have fuel dropout issues that  throttlebody injection has,  efi hardware in ausie do a bunch of different style bosses and also individual injector rail fittings (PS the crank trigger will be on its way as soon as the courier actually picks it up)

 

8 hours ago, vk327 said:

I'm aware it's much better, I'm trying to do this as cheap as reasonably possible.

If i end up going port injection I'll realistically have to go to a different manifold style all together as throttle bodies will clash with fuel rails etc etc. 

Yes fuel drop out is bad, how much worse will it be conpsred a carb though? 

It's more of a learning exercise at the end of the day. If the fuel side of things doesn't work out I can just have waay over complicated fancy programmable ignition 

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On 09/06/2020 at 00:56, The Bronze said:

I laser cut a few gaskets for the base of an adm. Shout out if you need one. Also a spare spacer or two but dunno how they'll work to the adapter. 

Ooh yes please. I'll see what the carb kit comes with when it strived but I think I'll need some.

Should be fine as I am planning to he only using weber pattern 

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So the interwebs told me that the falcon tbi module is Weber pattern. I don't know if the ea is different but it is not the same bolt pattern

That's the gasket of the 34adm on the base of the TBI unit

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It doesn't matter that it's different as I'll just make another adaptor plate to suit 

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Love what you've done with the ignition system, I'm in a similar position as my Holden V8 Hei distributor module has started to pack up. What you've done has given me something to think about.

Would you be able to show a diagram on how youve wired it in? no pressure! 

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