Popular Post Lord Gruntfuttock Posted February 24, 2025 Popular Post Posted February 24, 2025 HANG IT IN THE LOUVRE... 14 3 6 1 Quote
Lord Gruntfuttock Posted February 24, 2025 Posted February 24, 2025 Greatest scene in cinematic history... Quote
h4nd Posted February 26, 2025 Author Posted February 26, 2025 "test jig" Parking this here for the Heli nerds to discuss, I don't wanna crap up the Aviation Thread: Flat ALU strip, 2x 1.6mm x 20mm *1m, at 300fps, so 10 RPS, 300RPM, coming up on 30m/s at tip (target for test). Just at this moment, a big flutter started, which knocked down the RPM a bit. Thoughts on how to mitigate this please? 20250226_192708~4.mp4 erk, linky, longer vid here https://photos.app.goo.gl/vmySqfgaV89jz37S9 Quote
Alfashark Posted February 26, 2025 Posted February 26, 2025 Excessive flex - lack of a spar to give it rigidity. Balancing it properly will also help. What's it for? 2 Quote
Nominal Posted February 26, 2025 Posted February 26, 2025 How about tip weights, would that help? 3 Quote
h4nd Posted February 27, 2025 Author Posted February 27, 2025 It's to simulate a pellet sower which does ~100km/h - 30m/s, and we need to see if video / ultrasonic will count pellets. Pellets are similar to 16x 8mm dowel. @Nominal weights might be the go, could add mass to resist flutter, hopefully for minimal air resistance. I could experiment with them part way along. I should get slow mo of the rotor disc while it's doing it, I guess. 40kHz ultrasonic craps out at about 1/3 of the target rate. Hmm, I wonder if I can hotwire that sensor upward, LoL 2 Quote
NickJ Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 50 minutes ago, h4nd said: It's to simulate a pellet sower which does ~100km/h - 30m/s, and we need to see if video / ultrasonic will count pellets. Pellets are similar to 16x 8mm dowel. @Nominal weights might be the go, could add mass to resist flutter, hopefully for minimal air resistance. I could experiment with them part way along. I should get slow mo of the rotor disc while it's doing it, I guess. 40kHz ultrasonic craps out at about 1/3 of the target rate. Hmm, I wonder if I can hotwire that sensor upward, LoL Your torsional stiffness isn't up to it, try wrapping some 3-4mm cord around to the tip to break up the flow, works on chimneys. 3 Quote
datlow Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 I feel like getting the holes in the centre is always going to be difficult and maybe adding to it / try balancing it as per a ceiling fan https://www.thisoldhouse.com/fans/21019348/how-to-balance-a-ceiling-fan-and-blades //VSD and a 1/2 ish speed angle grinder if my napkin maths is correct 5-6000 rpm 125mm grinder Quote
mjrstar Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 @h4nd Rigidity - Some 3mm wire braid attached top and bottom, loops made from cramps. then apply a bit of tension using some budget turn buckles. you'd need a longer shaft and a top extension to give a bit of triangulation. Put the mounts in far enough back to take your tip measurement unobstructed. Probably a rigid lightweight disc at the blade root. Maybe 5mm aluminum plate 300 diameter would be a low cost worthy addition? Then a smaller one top and bottom maybe 100mm. / can you put 4 blades on and 1/2 the speed and half the width, or does actual maths say otherwise. 1 1 Quote
BlownCorona Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 torsional ridigty will be an issue aswell. theres no aerodynamic shape there so as the blade twists, various sections will provide differing amounts of lift in different directions, changing to round tube may help this. 2 Quote
BlownCorona Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 On 27/02/2025 at 19:13, h4nd said: I should get slow mo of the rotor disc while it's doing it, I guess. @NickJ got your new work toy put together yet? 2000FPS would highlight issues nicely 1 Quote
NickJ Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 11 hours ago, BlownCorona said: @NickJ got your new work toy put together yet? 2000FPS would highlight issues nicely Yep, all set up yesterday and promptly stolen by the test team. Quite amazing how clear the video is when the lens hasn't been repeatedly run over by a dodge ram 1 1 2 Quote
BlownCorona Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 Hey! Its not my fault dodge rams have an insatiable hunger for cameras it sure isnt my fault anymore... 2 Quote
h4nd Posted March 1, 2025 Author Posted March 1, 2025 LoL, build some shit guys, don't just dish it out (Adjudicator rules pics of carnage acceptable as a sub clause of "making a mess", if not already covered by the failures thread) Quote
h4nd Posted March 1, 2025 Author Posted March 1, 2025 Hey, will your cam do a 1h 240 fps run at 1080p? Want me to test it hanging off the bottom of a Helo for you? Quote
Popular Post NickJ Posted March 1, 2025 Popular Post Posted March 1, 2025 In our world, a failure is when nothing gets broken and when it does...... On the other hand, one of the test subjects arrived with a duster gun holster under the steering wheel, I have no idea why Americans would need compressed air while driving so I moved it to my lathe as the manufacturer intended. 23 Quote
NickJ Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 58 minutes ago, h4nd said: Hey, will your cam do a 1h 240 fps run at 1080p? Want me to test it hanging off the bottom of a Helo for you? Thats gopro territory, much easier to set up than full spec highspeed cam Quote
h4nd Posted March 1, 2025 Author Posted March 1, 2025 I did look, forum is full of "but it craps out after 15 minutes" stories. Interestingly, A34-5G seems to keep up (gets notably warm, tho) Quote
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