Joshua76 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Panel Beaters Report Required , My understanding of rust work repairs is that the vehicle owner can do the repairs required *(BUT)* The repairs done must *(NOT BE PRIMED OR PAINTED)* So that the repair can be inspected and signed off as safe, if the welding of the new patch panel is good then it's just a report fee for the panel beaters who signed it off... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I have had repairs go through wof just in primer before I filled and painted it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drftnmaz Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I normally just fix and paint to a good standard and go back, only time I've ever had the wof guy say i need a report was the one time i asked if i needed a report... so i think it's one of those things where IF you ask then it backs them into a corner and the goto is "get a report" Did a few patches on a old hiace a month ago, painted etc, went back to VTNZ and no drama. But my friend in Pukekohe was has lots of trouble with VTNZ there and had to get reports every time, I'm starting to think he asked the question so they told him it's needed, personally I'd never choose to goto VTNZ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tortron Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 Protip Ensure that your vehicle is up to wof standards before taking it in for a wof 16 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drftnmaz Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 38 minutes ago, tortron said: Protip Ensure that your vehicle is up to wof standards before taking it in for a wof For actual damage yes... but any smart wof place will fail you first time every time because it makes them look better in the review system (looks dodgy if you pass everyone first time, but looks good if you are failing 95%), so leaving a obvious fail is the smartest move, like a bulb etc that doesn't work, or they will fail you on something silly to make up for it like wiper blades 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 You fail 95% of your WOF checks do you? Might I suggest you aren't using a smart WOF place, but one that enjoys wasting their own time and yours. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 13/09/2021 at 13:00, drftnmaz said: For actual damage yes... but any smart wof place will fail you first time every time because it makes them look better in the review system (looks dodgy if you pass everyone first time, but looks good if you are failing 95%), so leaving a obvious fail is the smartest move, like a bulb etc that doesn't work, or they will fail you on something silly to make up for it like wiper blades Yeah I don't agree with that. My 121 passed three wofs in a row over the space of 2 years and I wouldn't say these guys were dumb. Last thing my hilux failed its 6 month on was tyres and that was 2+ years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drftnmaz Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 yup I fail 95% of my wofs first time, on purpose... the only car that passes first time is my 2018 corolla, because it should. Having worked at a wof place as a young fulla I learnt how the system worked and how the audits went, and once you get in the bad books with them then the audits get super picky and more frequent, then it costs you lots more to undertake these audits than rechecks ever would. It's a numbers game, and it's played by computers and controlled by bureaucrats, not mechanics, so you gotta play along if you want to be part of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taistorm Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 The last 5 cars I've owned ranging from early 80s to 2010s have passed WOF first time with about a 50% strike rate, only failures have been actual issued I've missed (e.g loose tie rod end, rust on a support panel). Most of the time this was through vtnz in Browns Bay who have been very reasonable. The old south African bloke there loved the old mitsis that I would bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drftnmaz Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 yup because vtnz charge $70? per wof so have already factored the constant audit costs into it, most garages only charge ~half that so have to play the balancing game in order to stay in business... and a 18month audit saves you alot compared to a 12month audit! Each to their own, I hope you all drive safe cars and personally don't mind where or how you get your wofs, there is good and bad stories wherever you go! I'm just trying to share some incites 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/introduction/complaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Your cars are just shit. If your car meets WoF standards and the inspector isn't trying to rip you off you won't fail. Even my shitbox Hilux passes every WoF or only fails on stuff that it deserves to fail on. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 There are enough shit cars on the road failing that you don't have to "purposely" take in a non-compliant car. But hey, if that's what you enjoy doing then who am I to judge. My pass rate would have to be north of 80% averaged over many cars varying from three to 40 years old. I must just be lucky to get a pass 16 times more often than the average person. It's as if you think an inspector will overlook legitimate problems with a vehicle if you install a faulty bulb... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 What @drftnmaz had said is exactly how some places operate, you can scoff it as much as you like but it all comes down to the auditors. Sure a WOF place won’t over look a collapsed component because you’ve got a light out but an auditor will use a grey area of the legislation to mark a place down because it will make them look good in their job to show that they can pick failures. Personality types play a huge factor in it and if you can avoid dealing with that by ensuring you don’t have the auditor arriving all the time then you’ll do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Auditors sound like building inspectors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 There is some pretty cool background math around auditing that unless you have a post-grad statistics degree, you're better off being honest in WOFs rather than thinking you can beat 'The Man' with the occasional light bulb/washer jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 18/09/2021 at 07:15, kyteler said: What @drftnmaz had said is exactly how some places operate, you can scoff it as much as you like but it all comes down to the auditors. I'm still going to scoff at the 95% fail rate claimed. I just haven't seen any real evidence the fail rate for WOF's is 95%. And if you happen to find a place that fails your car 95% of the time, grow a Brian and go elsewhere. Or scrap the car as it's obviously due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 You’ll find a place that fails your car 100% of the time if you keep taking bulbs out 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpochNZ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 My impression is that most of the population now know nothing about the workings of the car they drive and turn up to a wof expecting to be told whats wrong so they can get it fixed then signed off at the second visit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, kyteler said: You’ll find a place that fails your car 100% of the time if you keep taking bulbs out Wearing my tin foil hat solves that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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