flyingbrick Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Build Thread here - //oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/39148-59-stripstreet-vw/ Oh man this is already one of my fav build threads of all time!A 12 second beetle would be so much fun on the street!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGal Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 What a weapon! That engines looks so sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggy Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 This is the old car - - I did use it as a daily for three months, not a lot of fun at 4000 rpm in 4th at 100kph but fun from the lights.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Holy crap that's awesome - can't wait to see this run I remember there used to be a few racing at Meremere about 10 years ago, haven't seen one in ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Speed Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 whats your plan for the gearbox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 I never would have thought that any part of a beetle driveline would be capable of that speed. So cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggy Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Box is a 002 with a 4.13 r an p, been waiting for diff for 4 months, running a peloquin lsd... Good things take time i guess. Will post a pic of the clutch management setup to help avoid lunching it off the line. Box is geared for around 150mph @7000 rpm in 4th. Its tall gearing but at the hp levels and weight around 850 kgs fully loaded itll pull like feck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Sorry do you mean a Crownwheel and Pinion - an R an P doesn't sound right?? R an P means Rack and Pinion - like in steering. Anyhow sorry for being a nitpicking twerp but awesome build and you should bring this to our drag day in December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggy Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I'm hanging around US forums too much, Ring and Pinion, steering is still the stock wormy box... With the clutch management, it looks like this Basically normal operation no restriction in the line, when the solenoid operates it forces the fluid to return via the adjustable (brake bias) valve. At the moment this is actuated via a switch and a pressure switch on the staging brake. I am changing it so it has a master switch and a first gear micro switch. Adjustable control of clutch engagement, and all I have to do is dump the pedal and it engages without the mega shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggy Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 If its running I'd definitely be keen on coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggy Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Been looking/thinking about the intercooler radiator situation. I was planning on running twin oil coolers, one each side of the gearbox, but I had a brainwave today and am thinking maybe I should use one cooler for water.... One less thing to mount up... Coolers are small setrab fan assisted units, just don't know how efficient his would be ? Any ideas ? Photo shows rough mockup and an idea of size. They are very efficient, but little... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 as efficient as the might be do they provide enough cooling? I'm guessing one for gearbox one for engine? or two for engine? by water up front do you mean use water as a secondary circut to cool the oil? tbh I wouldn't want to add the complication if I could avoid it. -run two like you have shown -get one big one and mount it around where you have shown -get one big one and mount it up front with long large bore lines -run meth and do without the cooler? keep up the good work anyways/ better see you at meremere in decemeber! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 +1 for meth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 by water up front do you mean use water as a secondary circut to cool the oil? tbh I wouldn't want to add the complication if I could avoid it. I would guess its for his water to air intercooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Ah, good point. Yeah no way in the stinking sulphurous fires of hell is one one those little setrabs going to cut it for cooling the intercooler if you want to street it and have it do any cooling or run more than single digit psi boost. We had to use an entire radiator from a 1.3L laser to cool the w2a in my friends supercharged ls2 landcruiser. Sure roots blower and different/higher duty situation but still cooling compressed air is quite alot of heat rejection. If only we had e85 at the pump........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggy Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I was just trying to limit the amount of shit, and get away from a front mounted radiator and carving up the spare wheel well too much. Meth is a bit out of the park in this incarnation, E85 is where this is going with a street tune on 98. Radiator I have is a 600 x 200 x 60 thick, 20l water tank, boost will be well into double digits by the time it's done. Bit of time on the dyno will tell I guess. Will flag the setrab idea. Maybe water/meth injection would be an option, that's what the green bros are using on their work hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 oh wow just realised I mis read the first post. yeah sorry I dont think the setrabs will cut it all (do you have a model number maybe could check their rated heat transfer to confirm) but 600x200x60 should do the trick. water meth is definitely worth considering esp with 98 tunes and is what I plan to do with my pile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggy Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Specs are. Dimensions FP119M22i 8.27 5.75 5.50 2.3/2.7 16,000-19,000 BTU per hour The last engine made 200 on the dyno an one of these kept the temps under control in a wet sump with about 5 lt oil in the system. This one will run about 10 l in the system, the extra oil volume plus potentially a peak of 500 hp should work ok I reckon ? Also when not on boost static comp is around 8:1 ( old heap was 10.5:1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 yeah they should be fine for cooliong the engine I was thinking you were thinking about using them to cool the water for the intercooler? they just wouldn't flow enough for a w2a system. if the water side doesn't circulate fast enough you get inlet air temp spikes as the water in the cooler is heated up before it can get out - even though the water is still cooler than the air by alot every degree it is warmer reduces that temperature difference which is driving the heat transfer. the other big thing is ensureing you can bleed all the air out of the water circut, bascially we blew up an LS2 because it got air pockets in the cooler and the pump wasn't at the low point, which then cavitated when it became airlocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggy Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Was thinking of using one for water, but I see the error if my ways !! Tank and pump will be at the low point of the system ( where rear seat was). Radiator up front, turbo and intercooler in the arse, bleed point back there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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