anglia4 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 wow, an education really gets you up the ladder these days....not Those are starting rates, usually like internships, positions created for graduates to keep learning. I've just graduated and I'm on a bit more than those rates but I work for a small/medium company so I'm the lead engineer haha there isn't much of a ladder left to climb here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I am a qualified fitter turner but working as maintence and diagnostics.some weeks I do over 80 hrs. Lots of travel around the country. I qualified and went to 23. Now on a bit less than 30. Next job I take will be over 40 per hour. I get away allowances when away from home( tax free to cover food and drink) At my last job the fitter of 15 years was on less than I'm on now. You HAVE to ask people in the industry to find areas that pay well ( mining and dairy) and then chase the job you want. Do volunteer work if you have to. Ps. Site maintenance engineers probably only do 20% actual work. 80% waiting for stuff to break and being ready to get dirty when it does. Oh... And attitude is EVERYTHING! door knock, be over enthusiastic, ask an endless mountain of questions etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Yup sure is. Guess they'll be going up in a hurry though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdvl Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Whats the difference between a Fitter / Turner and a Mechanical Engineer? I noticed recently a lot of people that i think would have been historically worked under the title of Fitter / Turner are now using the title Mechanical Engineer... Kinda like people shifting from mechanic to automotive engineer... although a proper automotive engineer is a different kettle of fish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelies Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 he's after a bench mark to argue his pay rise on, not so much a new job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Those are starting rates, usually like internships, positions created for graduates to keep learning. I've just graduated and I'm on a bit more than those rates but I work for a small/medium company so I'm the lead engineer haha there isn't much of a ladder left to climb here. phew.. i would shit bricks if id spent alot time and money on a degree or whatever and end up earning shit all. i was offered an adult apprenticeship last week on $20/hr doing the exact same thing I am now. so a $4/hr cut, but end up qual'd in 2 years, I could easily smash out my apprenticeship early. but then id only end up earning what im on now which is actually bloody good for a bike mechanic. MITO has said i can do my apprenticeship where I am, so I may end up doing that myself. just for the tick in the box,cert on the wall, look official and all. ive also been confused about all these different titles etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think the confusion comes from the fact that you can do a certificate, diploma or degree in any of the areas of engineering. People then become a 'mechanical engineer' despite the level of qualification they have earned. The lower ends (like grunta and myself) just refer to ourselves as engineers while the higher end always seems to say something aling the lines of 'bachelor of engineering/degree' etc I think there's also various levels of the certificate, diploma and degree, just to add further confusion. A good idea when looking at qualifications is to talk to people in the industy to find what they'd expect to see and where various quals will get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 The system keeps changing its titles. My certificates say mechanical engineer- fitter turner. But m&d/ fitter/ whatever is irrelevant to a large extent- it matters more what your previous experience has been. Ps. Apprentice here was cocky when he started as he has done a whole lot of engineering at uni. He was having a whaaa about how he didn't need to do what we said because he had a higher qual than us. I said if ur so good why are you undoing that bolt the wrong way. He's a good as cunt... Just took a whole to figure out that uni is not a total replacement for actual on job hands on experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think trying to ask for what other companies pay is the wrong approach. If I was asking for a payrise I would read through your contract and job description and tell them all the things you do beyond your job description an that your role has expanded etc and that you are the bomb at making shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 yeah if you can demonstrate how you saved them squllions by your good work type thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Just ask Manu how much he gets and ask for more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Agree with those two jokers above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacker.cam Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I'm going to get hounded for this comment (I only bring it up as a discussion point) as there's a shitload of OSGCs that probably consider themselves engineers but in my eyes an engineer is someone who has a degree - a bachelors degree. Below that you have diplomas, certificates, etc etc. Maybe 'professional engineer' is a better term for someone with a degree. This doesn't help you whatsoever but graduates coming out of Auckland Uni with a bachelor of engineering (mechanical) are currently getting $40-50k. This is after a 4 year degree and a student loan of $40k+ if your parents didn't pay for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Theres plenty of places/countries where you cannot use the term engineer unless you have a bachelors degree. In NZ everyone uses the term engineer lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Ok so what could a uni engineer with 40k loan expect to earn after 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 somewhere between 70-90k ish I would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 After ten years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Agree. Im two years out of uni (BE Hons wank wank etc), started high 40s, now on 60something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 After ten years? Depends on the field they are in and how good they are, you will have people cruising along on 70K and people in mining or something on 200k /super OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWEST Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Like said above if you get into mangament within a engineering company you can be up near 200k....Depends on what you do, your speciality, skills and knowledge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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