yoeddynz Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Your best strategy now is to move on and learn from the exercise. I'd smash out something from UJs quick smart before this customer loses any more money. Learn what? The system we have works perfectly. I want to know why it cant be used. Customer wont lose money because if we have to remedy it my boss will pay. We were told from the start by don hoff that its good and to go ahead with it. He has over seen it from the very beginning when I was holding two bevel boxes in my hands. Now we are told by a committee who not even seen it or driven it that 'two bevel boxes are not allowed' but with no real reason why. This sucks. Big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cletus Posted April 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2014 Learn what? The system we have works perfectly. I want to know why it cant be used. i cant think of a way to put this that doesnt sound blunt, so dont take this as a personal attack. i can fully understand why you are annoyed. the vehicle cant be certified like that it because the rule book clearly says you cant. it said you cant when you started, your certifier should have picked this up when you suggested it. from the committee's point of view (TAC) why should they approve something that is specifically mentioned in the book as being not legal? if they looked at it and drove it, nothing would change, its still not allowed to be done. as i mentioned earlier, if yours was passed, that would be unfair on others who have spent time and effort on doing it to the standard in the book, if the TAC was used for bypassing all the rules then theres no point in having a book, might as well throw it in the bin. by the same reasoning, if 2 bevel boxes are ok, what about 4? or 10? i know that is ridiculous and no one would do a steering set up like that, but there has to be a limit, and it is one. as for the actual reason you cant use more than one? I dont know, but its likely that its something like, or a combination of, good engineering practice to not use more than 1, they dont want steering shafts doing zigzags all over the place, extra points of possible failure or wear, dont want people doing left to right conversions using them as previously mentioned, OE manufacturers dont do it so neither should modifiers, not a tradesmanlike way of making a steering shaft, etc etc i cant imagine your certifier wanting to write a letter saying he approved it, as that would mean he would be admitting to not reading the rules, or choosing to ignore them. If you want to know exactly why you cant use more than one, you could email justin@lvvta.org.nz he runs the TAC meetings hope this helps, Clint. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advokit Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 From the outside looking in it looks kind of simple really. The Certifiers you showed it to thought it was a good idea but did not inform you that it probably wouldn't pass as its not a legal mod. Its not really the committees fault as said above its not legal so I think the blame needs to be redirected to the guys that have been advising you it would pass. Such a shitty situation to be in though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Yeah it sucks. Its going to come down to our word against Don's. Which is not a nice position to be in because he has been really good with us. But he obviously was not aware of the ruling about bevel boxes either. It makes for a stickier situation than when sticky the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun. Its Justin who we have been dealing with when putting it through the committee. You have not come across as blunt Clint. Those are all fair comments and I realise that no one on here would want to be in the same position as me nor wish it upon anyone else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hr31gts-x Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I would look in to WW2 era armoured cars as alot of them had very strange steering box and sometimes more then one and they can be made road legal in NZ. My dad is in military vehicle club and there is some very strange designs that are road legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakotom Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 ^that would more so be because it was factory designed or original equipment for the vechile not a custom setup that is a change from the manufacturers original design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Yep. He ain't going to change the system so fighting is a bit pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 It probably isn't much help at this point, but one of the roles of the TAC is to assess whether or not something that normally isn't allowed, can "due to unusual or special circumstances" be used safely. So, while it is a rule book, it is not absolute. This stuff is in section 2.10 btw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 We have the backing of several certifiers and they are putting a case forward. Watch this space.. we'll see how it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hr31gts-x Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Im not 100% sure but didnt some austin healey's have two steering box's? i remeber my dad saying the steering was a funny design on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentra Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 give us a news update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Just waiting. We have submitted a review along with help from one of the certifiers. They have asked another certifier who drove it what it was like steering wise and he commented that irt was just like driving a car and you wouldnt know any different. Big thumbs up basically. Even Tony Johnstone, head honcho at lvvta, had looked over it ages back and only commented then to check that it still self centers. We feel hopeful but just waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTorque Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 You mentioned this van in your Viva thread and it reminded me of the cert trouble with the steering. What was the outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The techy crew in Wellington want to see it in person after good support from couple of certifiers. So we getting it all done then take it over. I've worked out an alternative system for steering but would hate to have to do it. It's been long enough already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Looking pretty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobKE Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 That interior is sex. And I'm sure there's plenty of room for that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Enough room to swing a pussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Hi Great job on the Van! i have the same model did you guys make the rear hatch ? I would like to do this to mine what's involved in the process?? Also what was the approximate cost of paint job cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Hiya and cheers. the hatch was made by one of old boys at that workplace while I was away on holiday. He did a great job. As for the paint job.. not sure on cost but it would not have been cheap. There was a shit load of prep work and a lot of paint on there. You can always message the painter- Shane at Custom Colours, Nelson. he has a face book page here... (copy and paste url into search bar?) https://www.facebook.com/Custom-Colours-Nelson-727054040699835/?ref=br_rs Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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