GT_Escortina Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 You could use a moo supercharger and I would say something like a gt35 turbo, just off the top of my head. Nice ill keep that in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Gt35 is too small unless its a 1600 dave motor 75mm comp wheel golden bullets for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT_Escortina Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Free up a few HP worth of parasitic loss by doing so though? Hmmm when the main selling point of a boxer engine is the low COG, strapping all this extra stuff on top of it seems to mitigate that benefit a bit. And sweet jebus I can not think of a more horrifying clusterfuck of pipes and misery than trying to troubleshoot a problem with a twin charged boxer setup. I think I'd rather just antilag it and deal with the turbo replacement intervals haha. Why not? dump all that "clusterfuck" and make it real simple engine ,superchager,turbo ecu .all these pipes, valves and shit is for a factory road car. i see your point just antilag and be done with it. But what i really wanted to know was with all this talk on pro's , con's and who's has what car doing whatever ! Was to put it in a real world concept I have said engine. Want to do this to it. this much boost. for very little money i know little money is different for some and for this idea said $2500 and fab all that need yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I covered the pluses up the top of the page but obviously Roman was too lazy to read anything before posting. Basically anti lag isn't going to trick your turbo into thinking your engine is twice as big no matter how aggressive it is, not to mention you miss out on port scavenging, and det resistance. the downside is that you will have more heat, but as lancia did, you can manage this without too much issue, especially on a boxer that has pretty crappy packaging anyway. Here is an example of a dude on PF that did a rb30 http://performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67263967-Proper-pics-of-my-twincharged-engine It goes pretty good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 FUCK YEH VL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Gt35 is too small unless its a 1600 dave motor 75mm comp wheel golden bullets for everything. Problem is you need a massive exhaust wheel and a smallish compressor wheel, or at least something that has a low boost threshold, seeings as the turbo will only make ~5-8 psi out of effectively a 4.0L motor. The reason I said gt35 is that they are cheap off coons, and budget seems to be a factor here. But I suppose that a china turbo would also fit into that catergory too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty260z Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtL0QOBOzOk does anyone know this car, was for sale on trademe last year apparently twin charged what setup did he/she use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I covered the pluses up the top of the page but obviously Roman was too lazy to read anything before posting. Basically anti lag isn't going to trick your turbo into thinking your engine is twice as big no matter how aggressive it is, not to mention you miss out on port scavenging, and det resistance. No, the point is, where exactly are you planning to fit an extra intercooler (or two new ones at the front) and a big enough supercharger to supply the max rpm boost target? We dont know what car it's going in, but it's probably fair to assume it's same sized engine bay or smaller. Imagine if you're at a race day and you get a boost leak on a pipe that you have to pull half the motor out to get to... No thanks. I would say that generally the idea of switching between the two is that you can downsize your SC a lot, and actually fit it somewhere. As it's only expected/required to supply low rpm airflow. Dont get me wrong I loooovvvveeee gimmicks and twin charging has max cool points. The problem with twin charging isnt it's technical merits, but just fitting it all somewhere. A boxer motor makes a hard job (and ongoing repairs/maintenance/etc) a lot harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Seems to fit pretty well if you don't have a wah and just get on with it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Remember that you don't need two intercoolers if you aren't trying to win group B. One big front mount would easily do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Oh I forgot, you have to keep the stock intake length otherwise the factory helmholtz won't work... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT_Escortina Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 No, the point is, where exactly are you planning to fit an extra intercooler (or two new ones at the front) and a big enough supercharger to supply the max rpm boost target? We dont know what car it's going in, but it's probably fair to assume it's same sized engine bay or smaller. Imagine if you're at a race day and you get a boost leak on a pipe that you have to pull half the motor out to get to... No thanks. I would say that generally the idea of switching between the two is that you can downsize your SC a lot, and actually fit it somewhere. As it's only expected/required to supply low rpm airflow. Dont get me wrong I loooovvvveeee gimmicks and twin charging has max cool points. The problem with twin charging isnt it's technical merits, but just fitting it all somewhere. A boxer motor makes a hard job (and ongoing repairs/maintenance/etc) a lot harder. There is room if you keep turbo in the same place as on WRX and use an sc manifold like this and move alternator btw whats moo superchager? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Seems to fit pretty well if you don't have a wah and just get on with it? Oh yeah I guess that doesnt look too horrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Eaton m90 off a holden v6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I know nout about this business, and may have already posted this, but not bad for an old 1.6l 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostchips Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Want a moo supercharger now. Are they easy to get? i never see them.. Sent from my /lingpost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 They crop up on the tard from time to time, otherwise ebay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Or a wrecker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I know nout about this business, and may have already posted this, but not bad for an old 1.6l That guy should be a tyre farmer, his car is quite good at planting rubber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Ebay supercharger from a ford thunderbird or some buicks and some other things Eaton M62 or Eaton M90 preferably. the newer the better. the newer ones have twisted lobes and teflon coatings and things/they got better and better/more efficient capable of higher boosts as the years went on. or if you are silly a m112 or m122 off a cobra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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