karmagedon Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 I'm going to laugh at you when you drive past in an mx5 on 17's cheers brad. who knows, will see what it's like. If I don't like it and find some nice smaller rims then will take that path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock-Lee Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I don't want my car 2" from the ground at the moment. bro, 2" is 4wd spec for these things ^that should be your aim But this is the price you may pay It will be worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Holy shit those really are wound down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Sweet jesus you are gonna be laughed at alot. Hope you're prepared for that all in the name of...well who knows. It isn't going to look good, it'll drive worse and tyres will be more expensive. 17s are way too big, it'll look like a rollerskate, and going by your taste in wheels shown in the S13 thread, they'll be something straight outta te rapa straight Oh well, it's your car, if you like it looking like that, your call. Just don't expect many positive comments brewseph Makes me all gutted, the first real shot at a cool MX5 on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 oi cunts it's his car he can do what he wants with it. lowlancer of all people you shouldn't be dishing out what's cool and what's not. how gutted were we when there was one first real shot of a cool sigma wagon on here... love, phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 cause new cars are shit time to change you sig dave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 oi cunts it's his car he can do what he wants with it. lowlancer of all people you shouldn't be dishing out what's cool and what's not. how gutted were we when there was one first real shot of a cool sigma wagon on here...love, phil Come one Phil, last I checked it was my opinion, which ironically(or not) is similar to many others. Also note I stated more than just aesthetic let-downs. ALSO note my second paragraph where I accepted it was his car and it was up to him. Really thought I'd covered my bases here. As I, and MANY others mentioned many, many times before, this is a forum. He posted expecting feedback, which I gave him, and I feel it wasn't overly harsh, he seems like a good sort who knows how to take a bit of shit. I think it's foolish to expect anything but. It's hardly like I was any worse than Brad, who is a moderator may I add. I know you like to give me shit, so it is expected, though I don't understand the gib about the wagon. I think it looked pretty cool at one stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Never thought I'd see the day but I agree with Eliot. Things weren't getting insulting or anything, just opinions viewed. MX5's don't suit 17's in our opinion. I agree you shouldn't slam it if its your daily though, their IRS Diff's go stupidly low for every day use. Please reconsider. Offer still stands to come around and try those 15's out with it wound down a little. Might sway your opinion a little without creating an undrivable car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTD Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Saw a pink mx5 with a dude driving today. had a lol and thought of you 15"max! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 jut did some forza2 photoshops and i agree with myself 15" white rims are win 5 spoke or meshd also fitted a rowtree and slammed a turban on it did mean skids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmagedon Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 haha just be glad I didn't put 18's on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmagedon Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 Another major factor in wheel choice is lack of the green stuff. Couldn't find a nice pair of smaller rims that I liked and could afford. Sure that everyone knows what that is like at some point in their life. But yea, I have no problem with people having a differing opinion. Heck, most people who ask if it's my car feel inclined to tell me how much of a woman's car it is. Every one of them Bitches don't know about my man's car. Anyone know if the clubman racing style cars use lighter A-Arms?? as the MX-5 one's are quite heavy. Also, looming ideas of manual steering rack, no air-con pump. no P/S pump. with SC14?? but yea, just ideas. Am waiting on a book written by Keith Tanner ( flying miata ) about MX-5 performance. See what the book has to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmagedon Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 cause new cars are shit time to change you sig dave? hmmm nah. I think I'll keep it. Still agree with it. Long live the days of en engine, carby, battery and dizzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheater_5 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 please stop failing and just listen to the internet already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 This is from a guy who has a 835kg mx5 with 200hp. Huge but worth the read. "Lightening the Miata. Starting at the front where you gain most in that weight removed there makes the Miata both accelerate faster and handle better. Under the front clip (plastic nose) is some crash protection that can be removed. Cut the metal brackets to use only two bolts per side. Honey comb the black plastic leaving just enough strength to prevent the nose piece from colapsing from wind pressure at high speed. Remove all the air bag crap; the four sensors, the heavy wiring, the computer, the battery, the explosive unit and the bag itself. Use a hole saw to remove the nuts that held the baby teeth (tie down hooks). Cut off every bolt in the car that protrudes beyond the nut. Replace things with aluminum, like the steel bracket that runs from the bottom of the Sebring to the block. There are casting protrusions on the block that serve so purpose except for support during assembly, cut them off. Lighten the alternater bracket. Remove the center of the bracket the holds the Sebring idlers. Remove the right side windshield wiper and its bracket. Replace the steel wiper acutator rod with aluminum tube. Remove the dash and cut out all supurflous wiring and brackets. Remove the stupid brass belt adusters for the alternator and power steering. Remove the front of the cam cover, it only covers the cam timing sprockets (I am about to do this). Replace the adustable seat back mechanisms with aluminum brackets. Replace the right seat sliding mechanism with aluminum bars and honeycomb the metal under the seats. Remove the rubber sound deadening stuff under the carpet everywhere. Replace the rubber firewall stuff with aluminum and fiberglass heat shield. Replace the sway bar with a hollow one. Remove the mud guards from behind the brake rotors. Put a 2.25" pipe from the cat, a glass pack then a straight pipe to exit under the left side of the car. Remove the radio speakers from the doors, the arial, the chome hardtop atachment bolts, all the brackets from the trunk except the battery hold down, even the trunk lid springs and brackets. Replace the trunk hinges and latch with hoodpins. Scrape off all the under coating beneath the car (12 pounds). Remove the fender liners front and back. Remove the plastic between the radiator and the front clip. Cut down the radiator brackets. Remove the metal foot guard from over the ECU. Move the ECU to under the passenger seat (takes 72 solder connections to do this). Cut away the steel rear crash protection bumpers and do the same cut down and honeycomb of the rear clip stuff. Cut off all unused exhaust hangers. Remove the retractable seat belt mechanisms and replace with real seat belts that tighten fully. Remove the stupid bar between the seat belt towers and replace with a hollow bar between the rear of the spars that run beneath the floor pan. Replace the shift knob with a wooden one. Remove the gas cap release mechanism from inside the car and just use the trigger in the trunk. There are brackets on the soft top skeleton that do nothing useful. Be careful, there are two brackets that are important. Remove the heater, fan and all hoses and fittings. Put in a JR header and save about six pounds but don't expect much power increase. Cut down the starter bracket. Shorten the bellhousing bolts, they are huge. Mill the flywheel or buy an aluminum one. Machine down the sides of the spring perches if you are using Koni's and cut off the ABS nuts. Use gimbaled sway bar links. Remove the hood latch mechanism and replace with aluminum pins just back of the headlights. Remove the headlight motors and make a catch mechanism to raise the lights manually or buy BSP's fixed Euro kit (awuful expensive but I got them for free due to an earlier problem with their PAX spring and shock kit which would have saved weight but the shocks were junk.) Replace the steel hood rod with a carbon fiber rod and make aluminum brackets for it. Of course the windshield washer was history long ago. Other than a lighter steering wheel and the Euro light kit and hood pins the Miata looks completely stock with all its interior intact. Soft top 35-40lbs AC 35lbs Door panels 5lbs (not counting armrests) Door speakers 7lbs Radio 3lbs Dash 25lbs Seats 35lbs (w. brackets) Next strip out the entire trunk, of carpet etc. Then remove the stock seats and replace with one or two sparco or clubman race seats, offsetting the cost by selling the stock seats. The clubmans are really light,about 14lbs compared to 39 for the stock. Resonably priced too, about $250 each. Then remove the interior carpet and sound insulation, but leaving the stock dash,(too much trouble for the weight saved) remove the center console though. Then the radio, and speakers, and airbags,replace the steering wheel with a Momo, again offsetting its expense by selling both airbags. Next the sunvisors and the soft top and all the works The soft top is 25lbs by the way. Then the side windows and regulators, I wouldn't bother with replacing them with plexiglass unless you really don't like sidedrafts in the cockpit. Remove the rear cargo tray, (why bother replacing this with composite?) Next, the A/C and anything haveing to do with it's operation, again selling the parts for upgrade money. Leave the heater core and controls, first so you can demist the windscreen, and keep your feet warm, and secondly it is too much of a pain in the ass for the weight you would save to remove it. The tie down hooks should be removed if not already done, to save about 10lbs. Replace the catback exhaust with a Supertrapp, and some custom tubing from Kinsler, I know it's loud but it is alot lighter than stock and you won't need to hear the radio in this car anyway. Dump the fenderwell liners altogether, they aren't worth making ligher since drilling them will defeat the reason they are there. saveing 18lbs! Then replace the bumpers with fiberglass race pieces for 28lbs. The door panels only weigh 2lbs so why replace them with composite? Just pitch um! Remove the popup headlights and mount some form of fixed headlight, This may not look too pretty, but the pop ups weigh a lot! and that weight is way out in front of the wheels making the suspension work harder too. Remove the stock airbox and replace it with a plain K&N filter, to get rid of all the weight that carries about 4lbs. Leave the wipers, for safty in cleaning the windsheild should it start to sprinkle when you have the toy out driving. Unless you are really worried about saftey or it is reqired for racing, I would leave out the rollbar, to save weight there too. But if you do add this at least make it worthwhile, but getting a good real one! For the Wheels, the stock alloy are about as light as they come, if you want 15in get the Rota circit8 or Volk racing TE-37's. Finally if you really want to go crazy, break out the 1inch hole saw and the Plasma cutter and remove every bit of non-structual metal you can find. ie the re-enforcing ribs on the underside of the trunk lid, and parts of the interior door panels. With this recipe, you should save a lot of weight, it is still street legal, and most of the parts you are adding to save weight you can pay for with the money that you get from selling the stock parts. Granted you should have a garage to keep this car in, as it will be a sunny day toy, but get a tonneau cover so you can drive in weather that is short of a compleat downpore. RumNHammer Aside from a tube frame chassis and acid dipping, I doubt there is a whole lot more you could do to lighten the Miata." Do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 ^ haha that guy is the man! Shortening bolts and cutting off casting marks for weight savings. Don't have time to read it all yet but I wonder if he drilled holes? UJ would be proud/could show him a thing or 2. Also, looming ideas of manual steering rack, no air-con pump. no P/S pump. with SC14?? but yea, just ideas. I like that idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Oh my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 but leaving the stock dash,(too much trouble for the weight saved) Must have a hard out dash, considering some of the other shit he suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Would be awesome to lighten the hell out of a car like that, but fuck having to drive it regularly. Would be obnoxiously loud rattly and awful. Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 isnt there a 2l motor thats an almost bolt in fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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