PAINT THREAD

[Nominal]

Steve Levine?

[Bearded Baldy]

Can only assume he had a whole body waxjob to stop the hairs falling in?

[Early jap nuter]

To much paint fumes over time. one of those guys that just get naked for any reason. Good crazy basted

[tortron]

12 hours ago, Bearded Baldy said:

Can only assume he had a whole body waxjob to stop the hairs falling in?

Had to tuck it when he was doing the roof and bonnet id imagine, maybe kept the shed cold

[chasinthemirage]

Thanks gentlemen, I've learnt something today. Had no idea the eyes absorbed stuff so well. Think I'll swing down to the paint supplier and see what sort of deal they can do on paint and PPE. 

[~Slideways~]

I've been using an air fed full face mask, in theory I reckon it's a good solution as long as the air compressor is somewhere it isn't going to suck in the fumes. 

Nothing in your eyes and even without a perfect seal it'll be a constant positive pressure so nothing bad should get in. 

I got mine from Trademe years ago but it looks like this aliexpress one:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009111590394.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.14.1c2451ddUQCma8&algo_pvid=6ceaa51b-9928-40f0-b692-a2a0430484b8&algo_exp_id=6ceaa51b-9928-40f0-b692-a2a0430484b8-13&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"37"%2C"spu_best_type"%3A"price"%2C"eval"%3A"1"%2C"fromPage"%3A"search"}&pdp_npi=6%40dis!NZD!270.93!124.63!!!1064.15!489.51!%402101ef5e17737153286372035e2d33!12000047955162547!sea!NZ!774595986!X!1!0!n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3A46ab3cd8%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=YtHvr7LWr5nX&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A|x_object_id%3A1005009111590394|_p_origin_prod%3A

[alfalfa]

I'm pretty much a paint noob so I need some help.

I'd like to redo the white inside lettering on these tank badges on one of my motorbikes. They're chromed plastic. What's my best option here - slap on some paint stripper to get rid of the rest of the paint and then carefully brush in some model paint?

Is paint stripper affect the chrome or plastic underneath?

What kind or surface prep or primer is needed beyond a good clean with wax and grease remover/isopropyl?

Thanks!

[tortron]

It's probably just a single stage enamel and will come off (or smooth out the edge) with a cotton but and some paint thinner. Wouldn't have had any special attention prior to painting originally, so just a light scuff with a bit of grey pad on the end of a stick will be more than enough. I have never done more than that and the paint never fell off

 

 

Mixed up some Cadbury purple today

[JamesWalker]

What are the opinions on the epotec epoxy primer? 

I used it years ago when I first started out, and it peeled off.

I've bought it again now that I know my prep properly, assuming that was the problem. It just doesn't stick well. 

I've tested some cheap as generic 2k primer on the same exact conditions and you'd have to sandblast it off in comparison.

Am I unfortunate enough to have a couple of bad batches or does the eptoec stuff kinda suck? I've tried doing very light coats with it and the result is the same. No or very little adhesion.

[NickJ]

I have the opposite issue, Epotec sticks too well and to everything. One of my favourites because it also scuffs up nice.

Which brings up a Q, do the small touchup guns give less overspray than fullsize? Bugs me that if i want to use proper paint on something small I have to mask everything in the shed, would be nice to have a smaller gun that behaves more like a rattle can, is that a thing?

[JustHarry]

6 minutes ago, NickJ said:

I have the opposite issue, Epotec sticks too well and to everything. One of my favourites because it also scuffs up nice.

Which brings up a Q, do the small touchup guns give less overspray than fullsize? Bugs me that if i want to use proper paint on something small I have to mask everything in the shed, would be nice to have a smaller gun that behaves more like a rattle can, is that a thing?

Just turn your air and product down

If you also narrow the fan up you can do quite small stuff with a "normal" gun

[Bling]

What about an model airbrush? Too small?

[NickJ]

3 minutes ago, JustHarry said:

Just turn your air and product down

If you also narrow the fan up you can do quite small stuff with a "normal" gun

Cheers bro, i'll persevere with it then, had bit of a nightmare last time I tried and just assumed the gun didn't like it.

6 minutes ago, Bling said:

What about an model airbrush? Too small?

Yeah possibly too small, stuff like this

Found a few things that needed sanding which exposed metal, not ready to fully mask for top coating but would still like to use real paint. In this case a rattle can of grey primer.

[JustHarry]

16 minutes ago, NickJ said:

Cheers bro, i'll persevere with it then, had bit of a nightmare last time I tried and just assumed the gun didn't like it.

 

The smaller then fan is the less pressure you need.

Wind the product screw right in so there is no product and then just back it off a little. So only a little product can come out.

Then just eyeball the air pressure adjustment till its low enough to suit what you want 

[JamesWalker]

2 hours ago, NickJ said:

I have the opposite issue, Epotec sticks too well and to everything. One of my favourites because it also scuffs up nice.

Which brings up a Q, do the small touchup guns give less overspray than fullsize? Bugs me that if i want to use proper paint on something small I have to mask everything in the shed, would be nice to have a smaller gun that behaves more like a rattle can, is that a thing?

Interesting, maybe I've been unlucky and sent some old product or something.

As @JustHarry says, you should be able to dial the gun right in. I usually fuck around with it on a bit of cardboard first and get it spraying how i want it to for that particular spot. When the fan and fluid is tight there isnt a huge pressure difference between the gun spitting out drops or atomizing well. Sometimes if im particularly lazy I just tape the edge as normal and carry a square of cardboard around where the masking would be.

 

[chasinthemirage]

Ashamed to be asking this tbh but, brush/roller painting a car. Is this possible with something like enamel tractor paint? I'm aware it'd mean a tonne more sanding to get a reasonable finish but at the moment I'm able to make time available for the project a lot easier than money. How plausible/completely stupid is this idea?

[tortron]

Yes, you can get a perfect finish with a brush or roller. Hotrodders have been using John Deere enamel for decades (my morrie is John Deere satin black, its been on there for more than 10 years with no issues including years stored outside)

There's a million youtube videos about painting your car with a roller.

I have sprayed primer and a similar enamel with a Wagner airless sprayer and it was pretty ok. Good way to get fill primer on if you don't have access to a compressor.

If you had some damage, Rolls Royce could send a bloke around with a tin of paint, a paint brush,  some rubbing compound, and 50 cigarettes to do a seamless repair back in the good ol days

 

Actually, the Commer was brush painted with (wattyl i think) metal enamel, when i redid the roof it self leveled really well off the brush

 

Anyway watch one of the million YT videos

 

You can paint with a smaller compressor and gun though.

[chasinthemirage]

23 hours ago, tortron said:

my morrie is John Deere satin black, its been on there for more than 10 years with no issues including years stored outside)

 

 

 

This is what I want to hear tbh. Always reassuring getting real world feedback. 

Is oil based enamel as nasty as 2k? What's required PPE wise? Looks a little easier to manage from my Google searches but want to make sure I'm not missing anything. 

Anything to be aware of compatibility wise as far as products like brunox rust converter or body fillers with enamel? Paint supplier I spoke to before stocks Pacer PE lightweight body filler but she wasn't sure on its compatibility with the enamel.

[Bling]

I have some brunox you can have if you don't already have some.

[datlow]

Shit I’d be happy with that finish!