For Questions Regarding WOFs/CERTs/NUMBER PLATEs

[Frosty]

How naughty is it to weld up holes on a cast alloy rim and re drill to something different.

 

Prob safe?

Very naughty! even for a wof.

It's a job for the pros which = much $ and if a forged center even more $ due to two lots of machining with re-tempering in between.

[locost_bryan]

as far as a cert goes, not allowed.

 

you can change the pattern if its done by a wheel specialist, where they press in an insert with an offset hole in it, im not sure how much of a difference in stud pattern that can take up

A reputable wheel firm told me a few mm max (110 to 108, or 100 to 102.6 etc), but the cost peeled my teeth...

[UTERUS]

Cheers lads

[CUL8R]

Hey Clint,

 

For Cert, would you require the carpet/underlay to be in the vehicle or not - or is this something you would have to remove the seats to lift it up and check things yourself?

 

To see doubling plates for driveshaft loop and gearbox mounts for instance?

[Hyperblade]

A question around dashes.

 

I'm looking at replacing my dash with an android tablet connected to the ECU via OBD2. 

 

From my reading of the rules, the only thing I absolutely need to have to pass a warrant (in regards to dash) is a working speedo (that is not gps based).

 

No mention is made of indicator lights, headlights or high beam indicators to show on the dash. Or total km's

 

Am I correct in my understanding?

 

 

You need a high beam warning light on the dash and a warning system if a indicator bulb is blown (dash lights flash faster)

 

 

You need indicator signal, hi beam warning lamp and airbag/abs warning lamps if fitted.

 

 

if fitted

but only applicable for vintage vechicles. none of that on pre 50's stuff (but if its there it has to work)

 

I've had a talk to the local performance shop, and they agreed with all the above, but they also mentioned that I might need odometer. I didn't think this was the case from my reading of 

 

http://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/general

 

But then again i missed the other stuff.

 

Anyone know if you need odometer?

[AllTorque]

My understanding of the Virm is that you do not need an odometer for a wof, but the inspector records the odo on the check sheet and inputs it into the computer when entering the wof.

I have passed cars before where a digital odo didn't work and entered an estimated odo based on the last inspection.

[Ghostchips]

I've had a talk to the local performance shop, and they agreed with all the above, but they also mentioned that I might need odometer. I didn't think this was the case from my reading of 

 

http://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/general

 

But then again i missed the other stuff.

 

Anyone know if you need odometer?

If you find a way to link something to the tablet that lets the tablet have the warning lights and program in an odometer and stuff please let me know.

[cletus]

Hey Clint,

 

For Cert, would you require the carpet/underlay to be in the vehicle or not - or is this something you would have to remove the seats to lift it up and check things yourself?

 

To see doubling plates for driveshaft loop and gearbox mounts for instance?

if we have things like doubler plates to inspect, its best/ cheaper if you do any work you can to make the inspection easier, ie if i have to do any disassembly etc, then we would be charging for that time. i generally avoid doing any work on customers cars wherever possible for a couple of different reasons.

 

no point paying me $125 an hour to undo seat bolts and remove carpet if you can do it

[tortron]

My understanding of the Virm is that you do not need an odometer for a wof, but the inspector records the odo on the check sheet and inputs it into the computer when entering the wof.

I have passed cars before where a digital odo didn't work and entered an estimated odo based on the last inspection.

 

 

no odo needed unless you need to measure how many diesel kms you use

[AllTorque]

Yes, but still not a wof item.

[tortron]

correct, but if you have no way of measuring how much tax you should be paying, you are going to get shafted

[Adoom]

I do not have an odometer. My speedo is actually a rev counter, with a speedo face, driven by the Link ecu.

I have had a number of wofs like that at one place. and have since got a new cert + wof at a different place.

The lack of odometer was never mentioned.

[Hyperblade]

My understanding of the Virm is that you do not need an odometer for a wof, but the inspector records the odo on the check sheet and inputs it into the computer when entering the wof.

I have passed cars before where a digital odo didn't work and entered an estimated odo based on the last inspection.

 

 

no odo needed unless you need to measure how many diesel kms you use

 

 

I do not have an odometer. My speedo is actually a rev counter, with a speedo face, driven by the Link ecu.

I have had a number of wofs like that at one place. and have since got a new cert + wof at a different place.

The lack of odometer was never mentioned.

 

That's awesome information thanks everyone.

 

 

If you find a way to link something to the tablet that lets the tablet have the warning lights and program in an odometer and stuff please let me know.

 

 

I'm wiring in a link, so plan to use the canbus with an ODB2 Bluetooth adapter to an android tablet, at this stage i'm going to keep things simple and just put a couple of LED's on the dash for high beam and indicators failing. Since it's been confirmed i don't need an odometer that makes life a lot easier.

[M M]

What's the rules on making a hole in the chassis leg to fit a larger radiator? Want to use an e34 radiator in my e28 but it is slightly too tall. If I could cut a small section out of the chassis legs right at the front behind the slam panel, it would work. Would this be a problem?

EDIT: Obviously not all the way through the chassis legs, just on the inside top edge.

[M M]

What's the rules on making a hole in the chassis leg to fit a larger radiator? Want to use an e34 radiator in my e28 but it is slightly too tall. If I could cut a small section out of the chassis legs right at the front behind the slam panel, it would work. Would this be a problem?

EDIT: Obviously not all the way through the chassis legs, just on the inside top edge.

Seems I have found an answer to this and it's a big NO. Which is what I thought.

[westy]

Seems I have found an answer to this and it's a big NO. Which is what I thought.

 

Really? I thought it was only crumple zone cars you couldn't modify the chassis rails? Pre 19somethingorother.

[cletus]

What's the rules on making a hole in the chassis leg to fit a larger radiator? Want to use an e34 radiator in my e28 but it is slightly too tall. If I could cut a small section out of the chassis legs right at the front behind the slam panel, it would work. Would this be a problem?

EDIT: Obviously not all the way through the chassis legs, just on the inside top edge.

have you got a pic of the rail and what you want to do?

[M M]

Really? I thought it was only crumple zone cars you couldn't modify the chassis rails? Pre 19somethingorother.

I spoke to my friend who does WOFs and he thought it would be an issue without engineer's report etc. Plus some other things I found suggested the same.

 

have you got a pic of the rail and what you want to do?

Here is a photo, the red lines are a general indication of where I'd be cutting. However it won't really work anyway as the bottle outlet would probably be too close/in the chassis leg with more than in inch recess so it invalidates this whole procedure.

[westy]

Waits with bated breath for the answer as someone I may know has done exactly this to fit a larger radiator...

[Adoom]

Why not find a radiator that fits?