Mark_Fleming Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 just to clarify......did you have the same "lock up" problem with the range rover as the Kia and Hyundai? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Can't recall exactly but the Rangey has a mechanical release so slightly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Fleming Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 all good, will do some homework....much appreciated for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get it done Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 From memory the range rover ones are fomoco items found on the jag also . They tend to be unreliable due to water entering electronic parts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Fleming Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 just did a little bit of lazy google research, it looks like Range Rover's share the exact same mechanism with BMW.....and it does appear to be cable operated to release.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The late model holden I have had through work use a normal handbrake setup on the hub with the cables running to a actuator on the rear subframe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Fleming Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 which Holden model specifically bigfoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.H. Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 VF Commodore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Could you possibly fit some sort of front wheel handbrake setup? Subaru's used to run them. The danger with an electric handbrake and a manual gearbox is there isn't really any way to know the car is parked when engaging it, potentially locking wheels when driving. It's easy to accidently hit a button but hard to accidentally pull a lever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakotom Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 ^wat? never in my driving years have I accidentally hit a button when driving a car. Manufactuers tend to flush mount the actuating switches and choose locations to avoid accidental actuation Must be fairly safe of pretty much every manufacturer is going to electirically actuated parking brakes and , I’d say they’d be much less likely to be actuated by accident than those footwell mounted stamp on E brakes. if you’ve ever driven anything modern with a electric parking brake, you’ll discover you can still purposely press the button / actuate the parking brake when cars in drive and moving and there are multiple factory manual vechiles that come with electrically operated parking brakes that you can operate with vechile in gear . they are there as an ‘emergency brake’ also, not just a parking brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Slamming the electronic brake on in a golf at 120 just slows you down in a controlled manner Also yeah you could easily set it up to only activate below a certain speed like bag controllers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 02/12/2018 at 08:01, ajg193 said: Could you possibly fit some sort of front wheel handbrake setup? Subaru's used to run them. The danger with an electric handbrake and a manual gearbox is there isn't really any way to know the car is parked when engaging it, potentially locking wheels when driving. It's easy to accidently hit a button but hard to accidentally pull a lever. Find me a modern car that is capable of locking up the wheels with the handbrake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepers Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 hey, woooow there. hes all about the opinions, not so much the facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Most cars that I've dealt with require the button to be pulled up for a second or two before the brake will engage, the dashboard buttons are sometimes push, but again require a long push to activate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I'm speaking more from the point that most people who go and implement some sort of electric park brake onto their car aren't going to go to the same lengths as an OEM to make it safe. I'm sure the OEM setup uses information from multiple sensors before deciding to apply the park brake and how hard to apply it. Old Brian with a modified 85 Skoda probably won't have any of those sensors and would just make it blindly go on full lock when actuated. EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not against e-brakes. I was just trying to give a possible reason as to why the LVVTA doesn't like them on manual vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Some have a fancy auto mode, but otherwise they literally behave the same as a regular mechanical brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just gave it a try on our loan car. Don't need to hold the button down, a quick push will do, and it'll apply it at any speed. The dash starts flashing at you telling you to release it again, but it doesn't override it. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Fleming Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 ^^^^^ can you define "fancy auto mode" for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTorque Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 The park brake turns on when you put the car in park. Fancy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Fleming Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 any thoughts on these as an electric park brake? 2-inch model? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1500N-Electric-Linear-Actuator-330-Pound-Max-Lift-Heavy-Duty-Output-12V-DC-Motor/202417523579?var=502439405293 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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