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I have 2 options to swap hubs for my front wheels.

Option one

Fit a sleeve over the spindle to adapt the inner bearing and dust seal.

 

Option 2 

The spindles are held in by a small lip, a big circlip, and a friction fit.

I can press the original one out and fit the one from the donor car. I would however need to get the upright machined out a very small amount as the donor spindle is a hair oversize.

The donor spindle is arguably a little stronger although it would be unusual to break either, I would need to fit an adaptor but only for the inner dust seal lip. Either way the wheel position/track stays the same

Either way I need new bearings.

 

Here's an idea of the setup

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More of a tech question possibly? I'm not super keen on the bearing sitting on a sleeve, but locktite is probably fine.

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On 08/05/2019 at 21:58, kws said:

Im not 100% on whether i want to go with recaros or not yet, but will need to get the car certed anyway, which is kinda why i was thinking of relocating the belts but using standard seats as it would give me the option down the track to change if i wanted to (without getting the cert redone).

Any thoughts on this? I know its a weird question, but i'd be interested to know if its a doable thing.

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strangely, I have a question for this thread

 

if person 'a' puts rego on hold for the minimum of 3 months

then sells vehicle to person 'b' after 1 month

person 'b' then puts rego on the vehicle, rego then starts from the date of change of ownership, this is on the nzta website

 

does person 'a' get a bill for rego because it was on hold for less than the 3 month minimum?

 

the reason I ask, is I bought a bike with reg on hold, I put 3 months rego on it, but the date of expiry was 3 months from when the reg on hold ran out, not 3 months from the date I put it in my name. so I got nearly an extra month free.

 

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Hey Cletus

just wondering, if a car has had a section of the floor replaced and this needs a repair cert.

how would one find the repair cert paperwork?

ive done a car jam report and it doesn’t say anything, nor is there any other paperwork to go with the car

do these get logged on a system of any sort?

 

thanks

ash

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Hi Cletus,

- Can you tell me if it is possible to cert a half cage (or if its even part of a cert) with side intrusion bars? It would follow the design of being out of the way of the driver and passenger head.

- on that, what is the definition of 'head restraints' when it comes to a half cage?

 

The half cage would be welded in, unsure whether the side intrusion would be bolt in or weld in. I prefer weld in but it depends if its even possible.

The reason I ask is because I want to add safety and stiffness to a late 60's kei car design but I don't want to have to have an authority card and log book for a 2nd car (I am planning a full cage in another project).

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

 

 

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On 19/05/2019 at 13:31, cletus said:

so I got nearly an extra month free

I put my bike rego on hold for 3 months over winter,  got the letter saying regos due (they come like a month early) put 3 months on hey presto you get 4months! So I imagine you were in that time frame otherwise it would of back dated to date of purchase?

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On ‎29‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 19:27, ESKIN8R said:

@cletusHey mate, any reason these would run into issues when certing a car for an engine conversion?

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cant see a problem with those, looks like a much better idea than the factory ones

 

@Nominal they are escort top strut hats, the factory ones don't have a bearing to let the shock turn freely

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On ‎23‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 13:34, ~Slideways~ said:

Hi Cletus,

- Can you tell me if it is possible to cert a half cage (or if its even part of a cert) with side intrusion bars? It would follow the design of being out of the way of the driver and passenger head.

- on that, what is the definition of 'head restraints' when it comes to a half cage?

 

The half cage would be welded in, unsure whether the side intrusion would be bolt in or weld in. I prefer weld in but it depends if its even possible.

The reason I ask is because I want to add safety and stiffness to a late 60's kei car design but I don't want to have to have an authority card and log book for a 2nd car (I am planning a full cage in another project).

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

 

 

yep a half cage is certifiable

cage requirements from an interior impact point of view, is here

https://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/standards/LVVTA_STD_Interior_Impact.pdf

 

head restraints

https://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/standards/LVVTA_STD_Head_Restraints.pdf

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On ‎23‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 06:34, Ashkellybarr said:

Hey Cletus

just wondering, if a car has had a section of the floor replaced and this needs a repair cert.

how would one find the repair cert paperwork?

ive done a car jam report and it doesn’t say anything, nor is there any other paperwork to go with the car

do these get logged on a system of any sort?

 

thanks

ash

do you mean it needs a repair cert and you want to know how to repair it to that standard?

or it has had one done and you need a copy of the repair cert?

 

I don't know how you would get a copy of it, you might be able to get the repair certifier to make copies for you? its not usually something that the customer gets a copy of, the cert paperwork gets given to the vtnz/vtnz inspector

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25 minutes ago, cletus said:

cant see a problem with those, looks like a much better idea than the factory ones

 

@Nominal they are escort top strut hats, the factory ones don't have a bearing to let the shock turn freely

Thanks - I was trying to work out how they would relate to an engine conversion :)

 

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3 hours ago, cletus said:

do you mean it needs a repair cert and you want to know how to repair it to that standard?

or it has had one done and you need a copy of the repair cert?

 

I don't know how you would get a copy of it, you might be able to get the repair certifier to make copies for you? its not usually something that the customer gets a copy of, the cert paperwork gets given to the vtnz/vtnz inspector

Cheers for the reply

the repairs been done and I’m told it was signed off by a certifier.

however car doesn’t come with any paperwork to back it up, nor can VTNZ or carjam can confirm anything about.

Car has since been modified and will require cert for the mods so I’m asking as I don’t want it to be an issue should it go for cert

 

thanks again

ash

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5 hours ago, Ashkellybarr said:

Cheers for the reply

the repairs been done and I’m told it was signed off by a certifier.

however car doesn’t come with any paperwork to back it up, nor can VTNZ or carjam can confirm anything about.

Car has since been modified and will require cert for the mods so I’m asking as I don’t want it to be an issue should it go for cert

 

thanks again

ash

I understand that it would be recorded on LANDATA that the car has been flagged and un-flagged. According to the link below the paperwork has to be kept for two years.

https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/light-vehicle-repair/introduction/inspection-and-certification-process

I don't know how you can access the records though, maybe talk to NZTA?

 

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7 hours ago, Ashkellybarr said:

Cheers for the reply

the repairs been done and I’m told it was signed off by a certifier.

however car doesn’t come with any paperwork to back it up, nor can VTNZ or carjam can confirm anything about.

Car has since been modified and will require cert for the mods so I’m asking as I don’t want it to be an issue should it go for cert

 

thanks again

ash

Shouldn't matter for lvv cert - it's not usually a requirement for a lvv certifier to sight the repair cert 

On rare occasions the certifier might want to see it- the only time I remember asking someone for a copy of a repair cert was an old car with a lot of repairs, where the owner had a repair cert done, then did mods and it turned into a scratch built vehicle,  when that happens it is considered a new vehicle and the lvv certifier takes responsibility for the whole vehicle including the body structure 

So in that case it was me covering my ass as well as I could because I hadn't seen the body before paint 

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On 31/05/2019 at 11:17, tortron said:

are there any requirements for aftermarket wheel hubs?

i can get these

marina-front-hub-new-minor-4-pcd-with-be

machined cast hubs which would mean i dont have to mess about with bearing adaptors and plugging and redrilling the PCD of some old ones

Yeah that should be fine if they are made properly of a suitable material

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