Toddy415 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 If a car has been previously certed for motor swap (has old school cert plate) and has had a drive shaft hoop fitted that might not comply with todays rules and I want to cert it for other mods would i have to upgrade hoop to todays rules or is it fine as it was previously certed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corbie Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I would have thought so, new cert will cover everything, so must comply with current requirements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Yeah would expect current cert rules needing to be complied with. No matter the history of the car, certed or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cletus Posted December 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2018 Depends what it is. If something was certed, and that has not been modified any other way since, and the re cert was for a different aspect of the car, then the previously certified bits don't have to be changed to meet the rules of today. However if something shouldn't have been certified the first time, we have to fail it. Example Little Johnny has a cefiro certed for adjustable suspension, an rfb20det and camouflage door cards. Johnnys 20det got a case of the nungers after racing his mates s14 so he put a 25det from a honestly not stolen r33 that his mate jayden got off Facebook marketplace. If we do a cert check for Johnny and his suspension is all the same as the previous cert plate, but it has a little bit too much camber, because it was certed prior to that being a requirement, then we don't have to fail it, or the camo door cards. We just have to check the engine. However little Johnny has cut and welded his steering arms shorter with his uncles gasless mig for more hectic drifts . Johnny claims it was like that last time it was certed. This was never allowed so that would have to be failed, even if the previous cert covered it. 20 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kws Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Mr Vapour said: is it a Boston green 328 from a safa in roskill? Yes. PM me if you know anything i should know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Fleming Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 16 hours ago, cletus said: Depends what it is. If something was certed, and that has not been modified any other way since, and the re cert was for a different aspect of the car, then the previously certified bits don't have to be changed to meet the rules of today. However if something shouldn't have been certified the first time, we have to fail it. Example Little Johnny has a cefiro certed for adjustable suspension, an rfb20det and camouflage door cards. Johnnys 20det got a case of the nungers after racing his mates s14 so he put a 25det from a honestly not stolen r33 that his mate jayden got off Facebook marketplace. If we do a cert check for Johnny and his suspension is all the same as the previous cert plate, but it has a little bit too much camber, because it was certed prior to that being a requirement, then we don't have to fail it, or the camo door cards. We just have to check the engine. However little Johnny has cut and welded his steering arms shorter with his uncles gasless mig for more hectic drifts . Johnny claims it was like that last time it was certed. This was never allowed so that would have to be failed, even if the previous cert covered it. Wordsmith level 9 there Cletus....love your work.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Vapour Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 20 hours ago, kws said: Yes. PM me if you know anything i should know give me a call or text 0226711855 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 12:27, cletus said: If it has dumb wheels when it gets certified, cert plate will state 'dumb wheels fr+r' Have to cover all mods present on the vehicle at time of inspection Hi Cletus, I am looking to get a car certified soon for an engine/gbox swap and adjustable height suspension. If I get the car certified with the stock wheels on it, then put wider wheels on the car later on, will there be a problem getting a WOF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Vapour Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Italia said: Hi Cletus, I am looking to get a car certified soon for an engine/gbox swap and adjustable height suspension. If I get the car certified with the stock wheels on it, then put wider wheels on the car later on, will there be a problem getting a WOF? yes any further mods or changes to the car will need to be re-certed. basicly do everything you want to to the car then get it certed. everytime you go back you will have to pay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 yes, vehicle mods should match what the plate says it has on it for wof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kws Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 It'll say "OE F&R" or the likes for wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Thanks for the quick reply guys, Suspected that would be the case, just trying to avoid getting stuck in the loop of waiting till the next modification before getting cert and having a car that takes forever to be road legal. Just a confusing rule I guess? As changing from stock wheels to aftermarket wheels doesn't require a cert, but changing them once certified requires a re-cert. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.craw4d Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Probably been covered a million times before (and my apologies) but can you chuck almost any wheels on a car and not need cert for them alone? But once certed you're bound to the wheels when cert was issued? Also is it possible to get 2 sets of wheels certified on the same plate? I'd love to be able to switch back to factory wheels sometimes. Yes I'm weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, a.craw4d said: Probably been covered a million times before (and my apologies) but can you chuck almost any wheels on a car and not need cert for them alone? yes, if they fall within the wof threshold rules 2 minutes ago, a.craw4d said: But once certed you're bound to the wheels when cert was issued? yes 2 minutes ago, a.craw4d said: Also is it possible to get 2 sets of wheels certified on the same plate? yes if they are similar ish sizes, ie you wouldn't be able to cert a set of 13x7 and 20x8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.craw4d Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Thanks @cletus. The wheels in question are 15x6 and 15x7 with +50 and +11 offsets respectively. Is offset even noted on the plate? Because there's a big difference on how those two sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kws Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Wouldnt it be an awesome world where you could opt for them to just not put the wheel details on the plate? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kws Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Speaking of certs, is this sort of attachment for the seatbelt OK for cert as long as the bolt meets spec? It mounts to the base that bolts to the floor of the car, and the recaro sliders mount to that base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, kws said: Speaking of certs, is this sort of attachment for the seatbelt OK for cert as long as the bolt meets spec? It mounts to the base that bolts to the floor of the car, and the recaro sliders mount to that base. sometimes. depends on the manufacturer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, a.craw4d said: Thanks @cletus. The wheels in question are 15x6 and 15x7 with +50 and +11 offsets respectively. Is offset even noted on the plate? no, offset is not put on the plate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Vapour Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, cletus said: yes, if they fall within the wof threshold rules yes yes if they are similar ish sizes, ie you wouldn't be able to cert a set of 13x7 and 20x8 so I could have 17x8 and 18x9 on the cert plate? that would open me up to a much bigger range of BMW factory wheels and tyre options long term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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