tim13 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 turn up at his shop with beers and pizza late on a friday ? never hurts to be the guy who didnt just ask questions and not come back , once he knows you are not just a time waster but you bring beer too things might get easier , these guys often get more questions/phonecalls than they can handle and often no business from those calls/questions , so setting yourself apart from 'those guys' who waste his time will usually help your cause 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhangareiKE70 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I get what you mean. I have already had a cert through him for my Mitsubishi Challenger so he knows me and I paid straight away, didn’t screw him around or anything, so I thought he would know I’m not a time waster. You might be on to something with the beer idea though. Always good for some brownie points haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhangareiKE70 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 He must have heard us talking, haha, I have a meeting with him set up for tomorrow morning. Did offer to bring beer in an email I sent so that may have been the clincher. @cletus I am most of the way through filling out "Form 4A- Concept Approval Application", is this the best thing to take to the meeting with me, or is a list of parts/brands/processes/materials I intend to use better? Or both? Also a seperate question/sort of related, in the application, it has a section for steering, which is not something I had overly considered, as it isn't something I would be dealing with just yet. Is it possible to retain the factory steering column from the Datsun 720, and just have the input shaft spline/length machined to suit the GQ Safari steering box? Or is there a more common way of doing this? It might even be the same spline for all I know but as I say not something I have thought of much until now, and I won't likely have the chance to check between now and tomorrow morning. I will be buying the CCM (on PDF) later today but I won't likely have time to fully read and understand that section by tomorrow either. Any help is greatly appreciated. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plox Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 We are wanting to fit a coil over conversion kit to my farthers Morris minor, but we should probably check how legal it is first. I assume the answer is take it to the certifier and ask, but it could be simple hell no and no need to waste his or our time. Has anyone used one of the Spax front coil over conversion kits (http://www.morrisminorspares.com/front-suspension-c47/front-suspension-all-models-c71/coil-over-damper-conversion-kit-front-spax-p830570) or similar and know if they are certifiable in NZ? Bottom of the coil over mounts to the lower arm like below: Top of the coil over mounts to a plate which is bolted to the existing "shock" like so: Thanks in advance for any advice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KustomKreeps Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Hey ya Im half way through a 49 Hudson custom project. Coming up to the electrics. Have an American Autowire Highway 22 kit for the bulk of the wiring. Looking at upgrading the headlights from the old sealed beam 7" jobbies to say LED if possible. Keeping the original buckets and outer chrome trim ring but replacing everything else (lens/reflector/bulb/housing). Getting lens and reflector suited to LEDs. Im looking at using:www.vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vc4000-ultimate-kit/ orwww.vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vc3500-classic-kit/ Look old but are made for LED. FAQ say they are E-Code etc. I know there are issues around HID conversions and non white or amber bulbs but im unsure if there are any about LED. Thought I better check in before I go much further. Is there a LVVTA fact sheet pdf? Anyone know of any cert issues etc? Cheers Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 The Wof rules have recently changed to say LED conversions ain't legal. Run them anyway coz it's a stupid rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostchips Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 You can run them if you can prove to the WOF guy the reflectors are "LED approved" or something. Basically print off that page and zoom in on the part number on the face, use it as your defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KustomKreeps Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 thanks guys. Nothing on the cert side just wof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostchips Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 11 hours ago, KustomKreeps said: thanks guys. Nothing on the cert side just wof? If in doubt, use regular sealed beams or whatever you can find to get the cert' and install the other ones later. These ones are compliant but look funny Hella Lights that look like bugs eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiRge Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Yea as long as the housings are designed for LED, then you can run LED 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.craw4d Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 @cletus Have you ever seen something like this? https://www.stanceparts.com/air-cup-lift-system/ Do you think it would be able to be certified here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 had a look on the cert website and I think I should be ok, I can bring my exhaust out the side of my cruiser behind the drivers door? this is just a rough position for reference. theres no opening windows behind the drivers door etc. also would like to weld the exhaust hangers to the body mounts that come off the chassis, I can't see that being a problem? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KustomKreeps Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, MaxPower said: had a look on the cert website and I think I should be ok, I can bring my exhaust out the side of my cruiser behind the drivers door? this is just a rough position for reference. theres no opening windows behind the drivers door etc. also would like to weld the exhaust hangers to the body mounts that come off the chassis, I can't see that being a problem? thanks Nope. Need to be like half a foot or something from an opening/ behind rear passenger seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTorque Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/general/exhaust/exhaust-system see line 5 as long as it cannot enter the passenger compartment, you are fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 The cert rule says it must "terminate in a position where the outer end of the exhaust pipe is not directly underneath the passenger compartment" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Exhaust Systems 2.3(9) An exhaust system fitted to a low volume vehicle must: (a) be of a good design using materials suitable for the purpose; and (b) terminate in a position where the outer end of the exhaust pipe is not directly underneath or in front of the passenger compartment; and (c) in the case of an external exhaust system which extends beyond the outer longitudinal extremity of the vehicle or the outer sidewall of the tyres: (i) have a radius of no less than 3 mm on any sections facing toward the front of the vehicle; and (ii) have any sections of exposed exhaust contactable from the front of the vehicle or adjacent to points of occupant entry and exit adequately heat-shielded; and (d) be in good condition and free of leaks; and (e) be securely attached to the vehicle, using a mounting system that enables all necessary engine movement without stressing the exhaust system; and (f) along with the body of a low volume vehicle in the areas adjacent to the vehicle’s exhaust system, be sufficiently sealed so as to prevent the entry of any exhaust gases into the passenger compartment, and (g) be designed, constructed, and fitted in such a way that the exhaust system, or components within the exhaust system, cannot be removed, altered, or interfered with, without the use of hand tools. I think you will be fine. as a side note that whole 12 inches past the last opening window thing and the variations I hear on it, are old wives tales, or its a rule in Australia or something, I looked into it years ago and couldn't find any requirement like that in NZ. it was in 2016 that they added "in front of" to line (b), before that you could certify a hot rod with this style of exhaust if you could get it quiet enough 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 23 hours ago, a.craw4d said: @cletus Have you ever seen something like this? https://www.stanceparts.com/air-cup-lift-system/ Do you think it would be able to be certified here? possibly. I think someone got some approved for use thru LVVTA, IMO a bit pointless though if you wanted to set it up legally, as far as I know they are only designed to raise the suspension to clear bumps or driveways etc- they are not designed to be driven on inflated, so would have limited travel ie if the coilover spring is set up so it has zero preload with the cup deflated (so the spring is still captive at normal ride height) then that only gives you as much lift, as the suspension has droop travel (ie till the shocks top out- this is usually 30-50mm for most common bolt in coil overs like BC etc) and you wouldn't be able to drive it like that apart from slow speed stuff and even then you could get stuck when it picks a wheel up off the ground going in a driveway and would still need the same control system as a normal bag setup ie compressor, tank, 8x valves etc and they are not cheap I think bags would be better- at least then you could drop it on to the bumpstops when parked instead of normal ride height could argue that a car may handle better with springs rather than bags but I think if someone was more concerned with handling then they wouldn't be fitting stuff like this to a car anyway also I saw some on an import 300c last week and the front ones appeared to be knackered due to road shit getting up in the cup- they didn't work very well 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.craw4d Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Thanks @cletus Yeah they aren't for driving on while inflated as you'd have little to no droop. They have 50mm of lift. Basically have adjustable suspension for max low and doing the suspension job. These can lift the car temporary so you can get into your driveway/ supermarket carpark etc. They are very pricey but super simple design, could easily machine up my own. Just makes a super low car a little bit more practical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Is that what supercars run to get over bumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Does that mean you still get 50mm if extra droop travel when the suspension is aired out? i.e. if you did a jump the shocks will still droop down. Or will the bags keep them tucked up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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