Nominal Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, ajg193 said: The (friendly) Barry wouldn't let me out the door, I was halfway out and then he started spurting about how new WoF rules are shit and cars should be inspected every six months and how most people don't check their oil daily. Not everyone drives a british car these days /spam 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Even when I dailied a British car I didn't check the oil every day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corbie Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 just assumed it was empty and topped it up anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Ian Smith (cert guy down here) called up about half an hour ago saying that the car may indeed not need a certification and he has contacted the LVVTA and apparently they are going to have some big meeting over the next few days to decide my fate. Basically I can collect the car for now, and best case scenario it doesn't need a cert, worst case I have to take it back on Thursday. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I suspect you are the only person on earth who has done a efi swap with no other certable mods, so its probably not been as much of an issue before as they probably just whack it on the cert plate anyway. Not sure if that deserves a handshake or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Maybe I should put a body lift kit on, just to get it /over/ the threshold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 question, looking to run my air intake on my van partway through the rear "firewall" and into the passenger compartment with a couple of silicone or rubber joiners, would that pass cert or would it have to be a steel pipe etc. having trouble fitting new motor under seat. there would be no joiners touching sharp metal etc just 2 joiners and some 3" stainless pipe. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 probably be fine as long as the pipe goes thru a single skin and its not weakening the rear firewall near where the seat/seatbelt stuff mounts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 @ajg193 what was the outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, RUNAMUCK said: @ajg193 what was the outcome? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Gonna give him a call at like 3 PM if I haven't heard anything by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 What a fuck around. Still no WoF, cert guy refuses to cert it as it doesn't need a cert. VTNZ is now saying I need to prove that the power increase is less than 20% - originally they failed me for saying that the EFI is an item that needs a cert, not because of power increase. All of the dynos in Christchurch seem to be booked out well beyond the time that is left in the VTNZ recheck. My last hope to get this WoF from VTNZ is to write up an engineering report with some statistics, figures stating that in my professional engineering view the power increase is less than 20% and a letterhead and take that in. Failing that I will just demand my money back and park my car in front of the doors at VTNZ, stopping people getting their cars in for a WoF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Ring toyota and ask power output of an efi starlet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I have the brochures. I took the brochures to VTNZ and they said they won't accept that unless I have a signed letterhead from an engineer or a dyno sheet. Good thing I am an engineer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Raw deal. I'd sic fair go on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, ajg193 said: I have the brochures. I took the brochures to VTNZ and they said they won't accept that unless I have a signed letterhead from an engineer or a dyno sheet. Good thing I am an engineer. they will accept manufacturer or importer confirmation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Here is a power curve generated from experimental data for the car: That is power at the flywheel, based on actual measured fuel consumption and a theoretical thermal efficiency of 25% - which is extremely generous for an old overhead valve engine. Power for carb engine: 49 kW with 9.0:1 CR Power for EFI engine: 58 kW with 9.5:1 CR Power for this engine: 53 kW Perfectly reasonable numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 If they won't accept Toyota brochures, i'd go with asking for money back. I imagine they can ask for what they are. But if you can't get a dyno done (my initial idea was just photoshop one, but they'll keep a copy no doubt), demanding money back due to them ignoring manufacturer supplied information is BS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I've just gone and registered a company name, so I can write myself an official letter. If they say no to that I will try get my money back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Sky High EFI Conversions LTD? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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