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Iv found a set for 750, the rear struts are identical part from the bottoms are longer, Im guessing the spring rates could be slightly different but if the general body of all 4 struts are the same then its just a case of machining the threaded bottom halves to suit the KE70/AE86/MX73 chopped up struts, then there would be 2 pairs of coil overs for a KE7x
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@ryanfels Yes Tein do height adjustable bottoms on s13/s14/s15 r32/33 ect ect, but I don't know the ID of the threaded tubes on them, but If BC reds are 51mm ID, And that suits the later KE7x, AE86 and MX73 which Brennan used in his KE70 build, then thats the a go! BC Reds are common as much on trade me and other drifting forums, will hunt a pair out and go down that avenue. Cheers for the help guys, much appreciated!! Rob.
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@ kpr , yeah they run castor arms, like ke30/ ke70 , KE70 rack will the go
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Bamboozled? Why ? Because you like to post as many negative comments in one day as possible to get others attention? Or are you the all mighty keeper of great knowledge off all things automotive?
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Yeah I agree with ya Rookie and If its going to screw the ackerman angle up ( as projectr30 said) then its a no go, Building my own coil overs and using KE7x components will be the go, will research further on what is the best way vs cost to build height adjustable coil overs , Next question is do i use KE7x steering rack or KP?, Do KP Cross members fit roughly into a KE20? or better to just modify the KE20 to fit KE7x rack?
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http://www.performancecar.co.nz/articles/1972-toyota-ke20-dub-city-192
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@flying brick, how am I nuts for thinking it will work? its just suspension and its been done before many times on KE7X's, its not like I'm building a time attack car, all I am wanting to do is build a decent set up utilizing parts that aren't over priced like the BC or equivalent AE86 coiilovers. s13 parts are cheap and in abundance here in NZ why not utilize ten and incorporate them into the KE7X front end? S13 TEIN/BC/CUSCO Adjustables second hand in good condition: $200 - 500( All have height adjustable bodies) Techno Toy tuning T3 camber plates FOR KE20/KP61: $280 So say around 480 to 780 for the parts, then its machining the struts and fabricate them to fit the KE70 stub axels, How is that any harder than starting from scratch with fucking around trying to find the right length shock inserts, and ones dampening and then building them to be height adjustable huh?
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@projectr30 if it fucked the geometry and changed the ackerman angle than thats a big problem, it would have been all over the show if you were over steering ? as for the castor could it not be corrected with adjustable arms? Im thinking more and more about implementing KE70 struts and using a height adjustable coil over form s13 or better yet r32 and sticking that together , that way i stay ke70 not s13
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@ryanfels, Ok so can you implement using the s13 coilovers with height adjustable bottoms such as TEIN or BC and fit them onto the ke70 stub axel?
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Engine is either the 4AGTE I have or building a 7AGE and just keeping it NA, So power would be 80- 170 kw at the wheels spending on engine and set up using a link g4. Wheels will be SSR mk 3's , 14 x 7.5 up front and 14 x 8.5 on the rear. Diff is a b1600 with b2000 4.1 lsd, rear brakes U13 Bluebird. Its not a drifter or a bucket of shit that I'm going to hack up, I want to utilize the s13 front brakes and adjustable suspension ae86 hubs and brakes are rare and over priced and the adjustables for them have no height adjustment only spring rate, this car will be low and I don't want to waste my time building some ke7x coil overs with no height adjustment and then have it certified and have to change it all again to get it to the desired height, been there done that. So whats is wrong with using a second hand pair of TEIN or BC's from and s13, coupled together with addible lower control arms, castor arms and techno toy tuning T3 camber plates? Will the geometry be so out of whack I will be worse off or is that a fairly tale?
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S13 Gear is cheap as chips , widely available and height adjustable not just spring rate adjustable, hence why I thought to use it
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Hey people, I know there has been a lot of conversions to SR20DET into KE7x's in Australia, mainly because front cuts are cheap there and KE7x's are so cheap they are sometimes free, And there has been a lot of debate about running the s13 suspension and mostly negative opinions in regards to the changing of the steering geometry and a much wider track but on the positive side you can gain far better adjustable suspension for 1/3 the price (being second hand) compared to building a set of adjustables or using after market AE86 ones. But what are your guys/girls thoughts on this? I am contemplating doing either an S13 front conversion or a mix of S13 suspension onto KE70 x member in my KE20, to utilize better brakes, suspension and lock, Similar to Max Fouhys KE70, but I will be running a 4AGE/7AGE not and SR20 Rob.
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No one?
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Anyone done this mod to achieve an easy 4age conversion plus rack and pinion?
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Hmmm all good answers, points for and against, The reason I want to go four/five link is to have better handling and ride height adjustment, Im over leaves and having to A) get them custom made or resetting them and using blocks C) Having a limited range of shock absorbers to choose from and not many with dampner control and finally D) I will be running s13 coilovers hubs and brakes up front with adjustable camber castor ect so why do one end and not the other a? I think the way to do it would be to copy the mounting on a Starlet(kp61) ect and find a wrecked one and cut and swap mounts, and floor, plus try to strengthen between the strut towers with welding in lower bracing under the car and a strut brace up top as well. That way i could run this set up: This 4 link set up from the starlet: https://technotoytuning.com/toyota/kp61/rear-4-links-kp61-starlet-0 Add these coilovers from the AE86 : https://technotoytuning.com/toyota/ae86/rear-coilover-conversion-ae86-corolla
