My name is Russell Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Ok lets do this. So far I have just been shopping, nothing interesting to share picture wise but progress defiantly happening. Just got totally ripped off on a lame GT28r that has ended up costing $1200 . . . a bad start! Atleast it will be rebuilt. Will save the GTX2867r dreams for later. Ordering all my AN fittings and line assemblies (ANyone got any recommendations for who to purchase lines from?) What's peoples thought on this schematic? Swirl pot only has 3 AN8's so looking at a 'T' at the top off pot but worried about back pressure (Highlighted yellow). Am I better to just run the return too the fuel cell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EURON8 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What style of line? braided teflon or rubber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 9.5mm solid line for most part then was thinking Nylon fuel line Or braided flexi at the end for a meter odd? One way valve or will that shudder when running from being pushed in two directions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You should be able to return to swirl pot only. No need to return to tank aswell I don't think. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 This is the settup i used to have. Perhaps that will do fine again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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My name is Russell Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Purchased so far list, so i can try remember what I have already got; GT28R (Rebuilt) Adjustable cam gear SC40 SS Manifold 8 Gal Jaz fuel cell 044 Fuel pump SR20 Winged sump Turbo oil drain return flange -10AN 38mm Dump pipe with 3” V Clamp Exedy 5puk Clutch 3” zorst Flexi 2No. 3” V Clamps Silicone Radiator pipes RB20det AFM (probably don't need this anymore is someone needs one) SR20ve Throttle body Ignition Coils x4 (NEW) Timing belt (Gates race), seal and tensioners Water pump Lightened flywheel Fuel rail with -AN fittings Alloy crank pully Alloy alternator and radiator pully -10AN SS Sump fitting -AN6 Male to 9.5mm hardline adaptor (No.4) -AN8 Male to ⅜” NPT (lift pump) -AN8 Male to M18.5 Straight (044 inlet pump) -AN6 Bosch 044 fuel pump one way check valve -AN10 Blank for rocker cover 4No. -AN6 90° teflon bends 2No. -AN6 90° teflon bends 5 Meters 8mm teflon SS braided hose -AN8 Female to Female union for fuel filter 4No. -AN6 straight swivel 3No. -AN8 90° teflon bends -AN8 Straight teflon 2 meters braided teflon line 044 mount Spigot bush (Flywheel) CA18 Loom Custom CAS mount T28 Dump pipe SS gasket 2No. -AN10 stainless weld on bungs Clutch release bearing 3 inch muffler 3 inch 1.6mm pipe 2 meters 3 inch combo bends tube Aeroflow Micron AN8 fuel filter -AN6 Male Gauge Sensor Filling Adaptor ⅛” NPT (ECU Fuel pressure sensor) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Just spent the night cutting bits from the rear off car, will update once its finished. Can't do engine end off car until this rebuilt turbo turns up so I can work out clearances. ECU's and stuff like that. After some recommendations re G4 / G4+ range and sensors, Sooo what ones should I go with? MAP sensor IAT / Air Intake Temperature Sensor Oil pressure switch? Fuel pressure switch? Boost control solenoid + switch? Factory sensors to use TPS (Rb20) CAS Water temp Knock sensor (Can this standard single wire unit be used, or better to just purchase new after market one?) Zorst Oxygen sensor? I'm guessing the number of the above selected will dictate what ECU model i require. Is it better to go crazy on the number of sensors or keep it simple? http://www.nzefi.com/products/engine-management/engine-management-sensors/ Advice greatly appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It is better to go crazy if you have the means, data is knowledge and knowledge is power. Especially as this is a race car I would look into a telemetry setup too, as there is a really good one on the market for about $500. But yea, all of those sensors plus oil temp, baro pressure, flex fuel sensor so you can run it on e85. You dont need to fork out tons for sensors either Russel, eBay is great for pressure transducers, and temp senders, and second hand flex fuel sensor out of a new Commodore would work great. I would also use ls coils and ditch the cop, as the heat will likely kill them. I dont know much about ca's but dont the factory cas die on them? I would look into running a toothed wheel on the crank as well, so that you can just use the cas as a trigger for sequential spark, that way you can change it to wasted spark at the track if it dies, no idea if that is correct but sounds reasonable in my head hahaha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 I would look into a telemetry setup Whats a telemetry settup Rookie? Is that the digital display settups? You don't need to fork out tons for sensors either Russel, eBay is great for pressure transducers, and temp senders, and second hand flex fuel sensor out of a new Commodore would work great. Noticed allot of them on EBay for significantly less new, The oil and fuel pressure ones alone are $200 each from NZefi. I'm just nervous about getting ones not compatible or knock offs. do you have a trusted seller you use? I dont know much about ca's but dont the factory cas die on them? Not familiar with this issue, I have two off them so at-least i can easily swap over, I guess something like that is going to be quite an old unit by now. But that's a good thing to consider cheers. This looks like a simple loom! Probably too simple? http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=999996747 Thanks for the advice Rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 A telemetry setup monitors what's going on with the car(g loads, speed, gps, wheel slip, shock loads etc), and driver inputs(accelerator, brakes, steering inputs, as well as gear), basically it gives you a picture of what the car is doing rather than seat of the pants feel. This is the one I was talking about. https://www.autosportlabs.com/product/racecapturepro/ The ones on eBay are legit, and you do t have to worry about compatibility as long as you get a data sheet that tells you x pressure = y resistance as you can input it into the ECU. Sweet as if you have a spare but it sucks having a $50 part put an end to a race day etc so worth thinking about, but like I said if you have the means, then go all out as it will make your days better and easier to find problems with you or the car hahaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 https://www.autosportlabs.com/product/racecapturepro/ That's rad! Could almost justify one in that I was going to spend more than that on gauges alone, and just run a tablet? I presume you could use it for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Yea absolutely, well I haven't used one yet, but that is what it should be able to do haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Can most the sensors just piggy back off the ECU wires? or reckon it requires quite a few additional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'm pretty sure you connect the ECU and the logger together with CAN, so no need to do extra wires for that. I wouldn't use any gauges, and just have a digital dash/tablet that you can cycle through to see specific things if you want/ when the warning light comes on. Well that is how I would do it, I dunno about you but I dont spend a lot of time looking at my gauges when I'm driving in anger hahaha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmatt4 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Racepack smartwire are the shizz wired in 3 of them now data logging full canbus just keep adding sensors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Ok Rad! How difficult are they to wire yup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 ca18det question . . . Are Clutch Release Pivots a good thing to upgrade to a Reinforced one? Mine doesn't look warn just thinking about strength. It's going to have a 5 puk exedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmatt4 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Ok Rad! How difficult are they to wire yup? Quite easy best thing about them is they will control your whole car programable relay and fuse box run one heavy batt cable to it and then run power feeds out. cooling fans fuel pumps water pumps ect no extra relays or fuses required. fitted the last one to Curran brothers racing 26b quad turbo rx2 and it runs everything nitros line lock trans brake 3 cooling pumps 4 o2 sensors 2 step ect and can be all controlled so this will only work when this does that sort of thing so the ecu only needs to control spark and fuel everything is can bus back to the ecu temperatures and so on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 The CA's and RB's apparently have issues with poor oil return from the head.So I intend to prod some rods down some holes like this;Except aim too achieve something more like this, returning too the sump.AN will mean I can get the 90 deg bends rotated to the angle I require and still be tight.The existing plugs holes are 25mm, so my chart research says that should take a 3/4"-14 NPT thread.Find it a little confusing that a one inch hole accepts a 3/4 inch NPT. So if i have gotten something wrong here send abuse this way before I order the tools and parts What charts and books do people normally use for this sorta magic? Need to get bettera at threads.http://www.carbidedepot.com/formulas-tap-standard.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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