Guypie Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Discuss: //oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/50305-guypies-1961-morris-oxford-discussion/ Ok, so I have had this thing for a while now, got it off the provider of many an oldschool ride, Zebra dude. I didnt really want to post up anything on it til I had actually got some work done since the Vauxhall Victor never got off the ground, except when I loaded it on a trailer to swap for this with Ben. Since I have found a repair certifier who would probably have been more sympathetic to my wanting to do my own repairs, however I have come to like this car more than the Victor, mostly because wagon, and the fact I can go for a blat around the block when my motivation is low! anywho enough word, here it is: Progress to date to be posted shortly... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guypie Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 So I started by stripping back the roof as the paint was totally stuffed. Tried paint stripper: This was a big ole fail. so ended up using this: It was good. I have painted the roof with tergo blackguard for now until I can get my compressor sorted spray it with epoxy primer, Hopefully that kills all the little rust worms that were burrowing into the steel. Dont have a pic of that as it stands. Im starting work from the rear end as the tailgate top has been leaking and the water has run down the inside of the panels and collected in the bottoms of the rear quarters. This is the bottom tailgate: Its pretty solid up the top but the bottom will need a couple of big patches. The top half of the tailgate is swiss cheese, So I have sourced another from greymouth, arrived last week. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guypie Posted October 1, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hit the RR 1/4 with the wire wheel down the bottom and found this: So I took off the bumper end and started cutting, and got to this before I got to solid metal: So i replaced the little corner piece: then the this bit: and one of these: and an outter skin: and a spot of primer: Constructive criticism please, this is my first attempt at rust repairs. I will be sending off all the pics to the repair cert guy once I have the last 2 panels in this section fitted, hopefully he will be happy with the koala tea of the work. the outer skin is a bit wibbly wobbly from heat distortion, might have to do shorter welds next time round. Hopefully will get this quater finished this weekend. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guypie Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Finished the welding and grinding on this quarter today. Started with the inner panel Ignore the writing on the panel, it wasnt 45 degree bend it was 90. Silly. Welded a little filler in here to attach the outer panel to: Made a step in the panel, working on making a joggler tool but need some time on the milling machine at a friends work so that will have to wait a while. Manually shrinking the end of the panel, shrinkers and strechers would be nice, but dont have any budget for that so will have to use hammer and chisel for now: and welded it in. Didn't get too much shrinkage on the welding. but the shrinkage from the grinding was horrific. I think I need to come up with a better technique. So I stuck some bog on it and called it quits for the day. But there wasn't enough to fill the gap so I will probably wire brush it all out again and get some more bog. Anyone have any recommendations on body filler brand/type? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guypie Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 By the way, yes there is a large dent above where I have been doing this repair. Its probably just going to stay for now. Goal number 1 is get legal, worry about making it pretty later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 OK, so this Wagon has turned up at my place. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Trucked down from Hamilton by Rod Clifton, fully loaded with spare parts. I drove it home from his place up on SH1. Runs OK but I found the column shifted 4-speed "challenging" - more practice required. There are now a large amount of spares on my garage floor. We also collected the extra engine, two gear boxes, front suspension unit, towbar and some wheels this weekend while up in Cambridge for the NSRA Nats. It's pretty solid on the whole, and a first look didn't show anything too scary, except maybe that lower tailgate. Then... This is the frame crossmember that sits under the radiator. Much carnage has ensued and now that area is mostly rust-free. It's also metal-free which needs addressing. The radiator was also sad so has been taken to a Barry who is doing an inspection (including the spare rad). It might end up cheaper to source a replacement from something rather than recoring the original. Anyway, plans are to get it back on the road asap: - Fix rust - Check brakes/replace brakelines - Other shit. I now own two Morris Travellers - one with metal rot, one with wood rot. Tell me I'm an idiot/genius //oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/50305-guypies-1961-morris-oxford-discussion/ BTW I got this sight unseen and am happy that it was fairly described by Guypie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Photo host is back up. The crossmember is part of assembly that includes the splash pan behind the grille. There's a lot of spot welds that are inaccessible when its all assembled, so some dismantling with cut-off wheels and cold chisels ensued. Stage one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Crossmember full of rust and crud - and holes After hacking it out, the passenger side 'rail' needs some work. Drivers side is better, appears to have more oil leaked over it - just needs a small patch, and the corner brace is still mostly there. Need to scratch up some 2mm sheet steel for the replacement bits. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Found this stuck under the back seat. Smoking pass! (Although the Ben Dude reckons its from his tow car) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Too bad that the timesheet is from Ben's L200. Current state of play Drilling out spot welds isn't much fun. Have fixed one side rail and removed most of the valence pan remains. Can make too much noise late at night. Fine enough to unload the trailer today. The lift makes a good engine crane. Some of the spares are in cool BMC boxes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Been working on this, making plenty of noise. Cleaned up areas where the spot welded flanges go - removing spot welded joins is a drag. Replaced the rusty bit of the rail with some 2mm plate. Ground and primed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Made new bits for the rusty crossmember from 1.6mm steel. Missed out on borrowing the folder up at Rod Clifton's so had to do it the slow, noisy way. Chassis punches to make the hole for the crank start tube. First panel done, except for trimming. Then made the rear face. More hammering to tip the flanges. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Needed to make a mirror of this brace for the other side where it had rusted mostly away. Paper should be strong enough, right? Here's where I'm at tonight. All fits together OK. I need to flatten the front piece out a bit as it has a slight bow in it then make a hole in the rear piece for the crank start tube. New brace in the back. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Attacked the spares pile. New badge, I think this is for the tailgate. Plenty of spare lights, mostly tatty though. Bits in the middle are new front suspension uprights and pins. There's a new generator armature and some gennie Lucas brushes there too. . I think I'll drop off the main part of the front valence to the dip-strip man in Tawa, as it won't ever be any easier to get it cleaned off. Also need more 18g steel - might have to order a sheet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Going to leave the welding on the front bit until I've acquired some epoxy primer, and also finished the valence which is at the strippers. There must have been a battery incident in the past because there were some holes in the inner guard behind it. Metal is a bit thin, but I got it non-holey at least. Check out the inner guard area on the passenger side. The area between the floor and the sill wasn't so good though. So, cutting time.... I'm only going as far as necessary to remove the really bad bits. Time for some new metal now.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 The under floor structure has new metal now. Including the inner vertical parts of the sill. Next is the outer part of the sill, including a curvy bit that goes under the front guard, and the lower bit of the guard itself. There were replacement sills in the spares pile, but I'll just make new parts for now. Looked a bit more closely at the drivers side, and I think it needs a similar operation, along with a bit of the floorpan done too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nominal Posted November 14, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2016 Sill repair panel is done. To get the curve I used a couple of strips of inner tube on the upper wheel of my english wheel (home made a few years ago). This lets the metal curve over the lower anvil without stretching it so you get an arc in the panel rather than a compound curve. It's not perfect because my lower anvils have a flat piece in the centre (which you need for normal wheeling) but the linear marks are pretty light / should sand out I think. I welded some tabs to the remaining parts of the sill so I could clamp the new bit in with clecos. Also made the inner sill closing panel up, but its a bit ugly so no pics. It won't be seen once it's all together. Have picked up the front panel from Metal Immersions but it hasn't made it out of the Nissan's boot yet. Next is to make a new piece for the bottom of the guard. I could probably weld the old bits back in, but I had to make two cuts (didn't cut far enough up the first time) so it's probably better to renew it all. Have a paint issue I'll ask about elsewhere. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 This is continuing to chew time. The better of the two radiators fixed up. Got quoted about $700 for a recore! Sprayed cavity wax inside the sill and closed box section before welding the cover in place. I'll spray more into this area through a vent hole later but I wanted to get it into the middle of the sill length while it was open. Messy stuff, and had to be careful not to get it too hot/on fire when welding. Not vinegar: but cleaned up the part well. Front valence back from the dip stripping. Note the misplaced spot weld right in the middle. British quality! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nominal Posted November 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2016 Had a sand and clean up then sprayed etch primer around the traps. Including the valence and the front crossmember parts Welded those bits into place And the sill panel. Still need to finish the new bit of guard, but its nearly there. Next thing is to fill the gaps here, should be fairly easy as it's a flat area with flanges. Also need to replace the end bits that connect to the inner guards. I need to get some top coat paint for these bits, will probably get the Resene Lucite LC 400 as I don't fancy breathing isocyanates. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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