yoeddynz Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 What are you sealing the rust kill with? I was under the impression that it was only a temporary conversion and need sealing otherwise reverts back to oxide.. maybe I should bring my landau up and park it in your cavern.. Using CRC rust convertor. It appears very similar to krust and Bilt hamber Hydrate 80 ( my favourite but Im out of it and none in NZ. See here.. .http://www.bilthamber.com/corrosion-protection-and-rust-treatments/hydrate-80 ) Yeah- it ideally needs paint over top. Once dry tomorrow night I will coat it in this before weld the sills in place.... http://www.rust.co.uk/epoxy-mastic-rust-proofing-paint/c28117/ which again I am almost out of and none in NZ. I wonder if durapox is similar? I want something to use for the rest of the car plus Hannahs wagon when we start on that. The other option I guess is just apply por15 direct to the rusty surface? Or use their convertor/primer first then por 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattj Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That's some nice repairs you have done there, impressive stuff!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Cheers. I wont be working on it today unless a bit in the evening because work. Im on a roll like you with your anglia and don't want to put the tools down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I'm still struggling with the concept of someone cutting up Viva's to make theirs more valuable - WTF? It's not like they will ever be all that valuable anyway. Nice work on evicting the rust monster though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattj Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Cheers. I wont be working on it today unless a bit in the evening because work. Im on a roll like you with your anglia and don't want to put the tools down. Stupid work, always getting in the way..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzvohc Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Looking great already. There's something cool about seeing old rusty steel being replaced properly. I have a few old screen rubbers I have kept that would be better than the one in your car if you want to replace it temporarily. Next time you are over we can have a look if you like and pick out the best one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Oh hey Andre - that would be awesome! If I replace the screen in Viva one then its old screen can go into Viva wag. The screen in this Viva wag is pretty damn scratched. Does anyone know of any thing out there that actually polishes scratches out of glass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 WHY NO UPDATE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Sorry sir. I was busy the last two days having to do that damn work thing. I got called out by Ladaspeed to help sideways sickness install balustrades at a house. Just when I was on a roll. But hey. Money. I have sneaked in a few hours this evening but got way too cold. Let me finish my cheese on toast and I'll do an update... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Loving your work! Geez I love watching people replace rust. Oh aaaand, regarding sealing that patina, I use this http://www.bunnings.com.au/flood-4l-penetrol-paint-additive-_p1566568 I know it says it's a paint additive but if you brush it over your rusty bits it dries hard and clear and seals the paint, it is a little shiny thou. It's often used as a rust sealer but doesn't actually treat the rust, just seals it. I believe it's better than clear coat because supposedly the rust fucks the clear coat. I've used it on industrial firniture and old bikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Cool- I'll have to check it out. Yeah Ive heard clearcoat is no good - can go yellow over time too. Before I pushed the car out into the wilds of winter last time round I sprayed over the rusty areas with some Dinitrol stuff which is exactly like this Brunox available in NZ... http://www.brunox.com/website/productpages/Epoxy-Spray-en.html It didnt go quite as black as usual and still looks quite rough and patina'd (sp?) A few other people have mentioned Ankor wax now- apparently the stuff all the dub boys use. Edit; heres what I used up the last of the can. Id bought this in the UK for the Rx3. Good stuff. http://www.amazon.co.uk/DINITROL-CONVERTER-PRIMER-AEROSOL-EXTENSION/dp/B0076L4E3A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Bloody hell. The last place I worked at was buying brunox in from Opel engineering at $60 a can!!! But found it here half price.. http://www.pacer.co.nz/shop/product_info.php?products_id=865 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwontgetpartsforitmate Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 what did u use for the channeling on the floor pan ? excuse spelling. roller? probably going to need to do some on my van. have been looking at some rollers on tardme but theyre 500 balloons want to avoid if possible. love your threads. jelous of workmanship and space! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty360 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Some very nice work going on here mate!! Outa interest how did you shape the front of the sill were it goes behind the front guard? Cheers rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Oh hey Andre - that would be awesome! If I replace the screen in Viva one then its old screen can go into Viva wag. The screen in this Viva wag is pretty damn scratched. Does anyone know of any thing out there that actually polishes scratches out of glass? there is a couple of places in oz that can buff out glass scratches. Im sure somebody in NZ would do it. Or you can watch the youtube vids of it and buy the stuff to do it yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Man I don't think any of those products are that good, to get rid of the rust use a phosphoric acid (bunnings sells rannex which is good) steel will go back to bright white if you leave it long enough. Clean it up after that with a scotch brite pad and then use a traditional 2 part epoxy primer (spray if you can/brish if not). I have used 2-3 different rust converter/primer combos and the actual adhesion is pretty woeful. I would use a phoshoric acid and then a POR-15 style moisture cured urethane over them any day (but epoxy and proper paint is the preference). Oh avoid getting the acid in body seams, use abrasives around them if you can. I would actually just use a wax right over the rust rather than those primers I think. The acid is also great to soak parts man, it is actually its best feature. Anything that unbolts from my car and can be soaked in a tub witrh citric (or watered down rannex/phosphoic) gets that treatment, parts come out like new. Use paint stripper on the paint first if there is still any in the way, the acid only loosens old lacquer very slowly/not at all sometimes. This convo is probably worth a thread since rust is like the biggest problem most of us have! I'll actually try to remember to start one later after shed time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 For glass scratches use (buy/borrow) a DA polisher (5" one you use for paint corrections), Meguiar's do a microfiber pad (itrs real hard compared to paint pads) and a glass polish that will cut down the glass. It can make a screen like new, you have to clean it real well, for that use a clay bar and a fresh razor/scraper blade. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Its more the sealing in of the outside patina that I'm asking about. But hell yeah- you should start a thread about rust treatment. If money were no object on something special Id be dipping the whole shell. But this is a Viva.............. The crc stuff Im using is phospheric acid based and Ive used other UK made products that are just as you describe. But for this car the stuff that I would like to use that system on are basically a prick to get to and I don't like the more pure acid based liquids going every where I cant clear it. So anything I can treat I'm converting, leaving to set, then covering in Epoxy mastic which is awesome stuff. Ive used it on several cars and the stuff is good. Think durapox on steroids. http://www.rust.co.uk/epoxy-mastic-rust-proofing-paint/c28117/ When all the repairs are done it gets filled with this shit everywhere- I like to go hard on cavity waxes and use heaps. Moisture doesnt even have a chance of getting where I don't want it. Yeah.. get that stuff in the seams and its just cause more havoc. This stuff I brought a box of over in the container from uk.. http://www.bilthamber.com/dynax-s50 Will need more for Hannah's wagon but she cant bring it back with her because that get all silly nowadays with aerosols. I've used waxoyl and Its no where near as good to use. Does not creep as well. I reckon Fishoil is a bit stink.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattj Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Loving your work man, hey where are you getting those little cutting wheels for your dremel? I have been using the ones that came with my Ozito rotary tool (couldn't afford a dremel) but they are so fragile they come to bits if you look at them wrong. Really handy but some stronger ones would be the go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I reckon it is time for a new page on your main thread, the pictures are taking an age to load now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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