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[estate_]

Deja vu etc, but some shit is going on with the whole moped registration. I have a moped which has been off the road since the late 90s, but has been registered in new zealand, as a moped. I have phones LTNZ, and gotten different answers on different phonecalls, first off was that it needs to go through a one off compliance like check to ensure it is road legal, then it can be reregistered(at vtnz or AA, at $200+gst or $275+gst. The second, is that you can simply fill out an MR2B and put it back on the road

Has anyone here personally reregistered a moped recently? What was the procedure you went through?

It states pretty clearly here:
http://www.nzta.govt... ... n-v3a4.pdf

that

"Re-registration of class LA, LB vehicles (mopeds)
4.1 Re-registration of pre-1 July 2011 mopeds
If there is evidence that a moped has been previously registered in New Zealand before 1 July 2011 then the
vehicle does not need to undergo the same inspection and certification process as a vehicle being registered
for the first time in New Zealand. All that is required is proof of previous registration and proof of ownership.
There is no requirement to inspect the vehicle."


However phoning LTNZ now, i have gotten them telling me that i need to go through the check. Wattafuk


Anyone have any ideas on this? Will send LTNZ an email now asking for a final word on it, and for the chump employee reading the email to actually check with someone senior, rather than having their own opinion, but that document on their site seems pretty clear to me that it does NOT need an inspection.

Cheers

[Fliboi]

Im about to jump into this with an old suzuki. we will see weather or not i can prove it was regod in nz. thats on matter

but another matter you brought up is proof of ownership. now how do i prove i (in this case its actually a mate) owns this bike? for what its worth, it was recently bought of trademe, but i doubt a trademe auction is a legal leg at all.

[estate_]

Well my issues is I'm not sure what is true? Does it need a recheck or not?

If not, then its piss easy, they will have it on record if you have the old plate number. When they looked mine up on the system it immediately showed, and also had the frame number with it on the system, so even if you don't have it they can probably search for it via frame or engine number?

Just have LTNZ an email asking wtf is going on with it all.

[Fliboi]

i do indeed have the frame number, im sure as hell gonna be trying my luck with it.

sometimes if you show more confidence in what the procedure is than what the person behind the counter can, you can get shit done!

but yes i believe that if it has been regod in NZ previously you dont need the check, the check is aimed at chinese pitbikes that are probably seriously unroadworthy.

[10Speed]

mainly its to prevent stolen scoots getting re-registered under different details

[estate_]

i do indeed have the frame number, im sure as hell gonna be trying my luck with it.

sometimes if you show more confidence in what the procedure is than what the person behind the counter can, you can get shit done!

but yes i believe that if it has been regod in NZ previously you dont need the check, the check is aimed at chinese pitbikes that are probably seriously unroadworthy.

Yeah, and that is how we got the first one through, just the person behind the counter got a bit confused when one of the body type lists didn't have moped on it, so she phoned LTNZ to check what it should have, even though I tried to tell her it is LA.

Pretty sure I can just go into the local cop station and ask them to print out a form saying it is not a vehicle of interest, and then print out the document stating it needs no check, take ID etc, and try my luck. Might even fill out the MR2B beforehand, so I can just go in and give them the whole lot of stuff and tell them this is what needs to be done.

[estate_]

Alright I have come to the conclusion their call center monkeys are just that, found the full version(part 1) of the VIRM: Entry Certification, which again makes it black and white, what does need, and does not need inspection.

http://www.nzta.govt... ... a4-web.pdf
Section 35-4 or Page 172.



Will probably print it out and go again today

[estate_]

T-T-T-Triple post

Sorted, went into another AA center who were GCs and it was easy as, didn't have proof of ownership or anything, they didn't even look up the old plate in their system. After the last AA and VTNZ denied me the other day. So it looks like legally it does not need a check, but hardly anyone knows of this?

Regardless, it is now registered. Stoked. To anyone else trying to do it, probably best to print off the above documents etc to show wherever you go

[Fliboi]

GREAT NEWS! will be doing this just as soon as the bike moves under its own power.

does it get regod at a 2011, or its true year? classic rego is always a plus

[Fliboi]

also, how much did it cost you?

[estate_]

Registered as its its true year

Also, If i had been quicker thinking I would have added something awesome to the registered name, like Honda C50 Tire Shredder or something haha. Mine was an 80s one so didn't get classic rego, but assume you would if its pre 72 or whatever it is now.

$213 for 12 months including a new plate/admin or $131 for 6 months including a new plate/admin shit. Anyway, now someone start an Auckland scooter gang

[Fliboi]

Anyway, now IM going to start an Auckland scooter gang

[ke70_wagon]

so since my scooters not really legal. it has no suspension its all solid mounted and i dont have any plates for it do i need to get a recheck or just get it registered?

[estate_]

Mine isn't either, missing a heap of stuff including an exhaust, but noone ever even looked at it so its sweet. Some places and people will try and tell you it does need an inspection, go elsewhere or show them those documents and try convince them.

[efp0wa]

I have just filled out MR2B and all was sweet

[Vintage Grumble]

If you buy a de-reg motorbike, but the plates still showing in the system, what do you have to do to re-reg it? Just fill out a form, and get a WOF? then reg it?

[Vintage Grumble]

T-T-T-Triple post

Sorted, went into another AA center who were GCs and it was easy as, didn't have proof of ownership or anything, they didn't even look up the old plate in their system. After the last AA and VTNZ denied me the other day. So it looks like legally it does not need a check, but hardly anyone knows of this?

Regardless, it is now registered. Stoked. To anyone else trying to do it, probably best to print off the above documents etc to show wherever you go

So, you didnt have proof of ownership, or a plate number, but got it reg'ed? Whats it in the system under? Just the new plate number? Or the frame number?

[Fliboi]

If you buy a de-reg motorbike, but the plates still showing in the system, what do you have to do to re-reg it? Just fill out a form, and get a WOF? then reg it?

unsure if motorbikes are remotely the same as scooters/mopeds in this respect..

[estate_]

Yup, just hit up the MR2B with the frame number, engine number, make, year etc, then my details and we were away. I asked if she wanted the old plate number or anything and she was like nah its sweet ill just enter this

Pretty sure that is just because of the place I went, where I got my brothers one done they didn't ask for ownership stuff either, but did look up the old plate, and turned the screen to us asking 'who's this?' for the registered owner, and we just said the old owner and they were all good with that.

It varies massively depending on where you go and who you get processing it, I got lucky and could have gotten away with a lot more if i wanted to, but I just wanted to get it through and on the road. However, I'm pretty sure a motorbike is a completely different story, could be wrong but I think they need a proper recompliance test and all that done, as they aren't a VIN exempt vehicle?

[Vintage Grumble]

Cheers for the info. My GT50 is no longer in the system, and has no plate, and I cant prove its been reg before, but I do have proof of ownership. May have a crack at just filling out the form and see what happens.

Yeh, not sure about motorbikes, I guess it would have to go through recompliance, gay.