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#1 Ranter

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:06 PM

I noticed the concern over black plates in the other locked thread about handing in plates when putting licence on hold.

If your licence has lapsed but you still have the original black plates in good condition from the vehicle you can from this month re-register it with them. For older cars not in the system you can have them reissued by providing a photo of the car with them on. This obviously works for the white plates too if you want to keep them.

Not sure if the cars we have done lately can be put back on the black plates though but can't see why not. I got this info from the VCC and people have done it already, no need to be a member.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:12 PM

I noticed the concern over black plates in the other locked thread about handing in plates when putting licence on hold.

If your licence has lapsed but you still have the original black plates in good condition from the vehicle you can from this month re-register it with them. For older cars not in the system you can have them reissued by providing a photo of the car with them on. This obviously works for the white plates too if you want to keep them.

Not sure if the cars we have done lately can be put back on the black plates though but can't see why not. I got this info from the VCC and people have done it already, no need to be a member.


Any official documentation on this?

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:40 PM

I'm sure that you only have to hand in your plates if you have a history of driving round with your car on hold.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 02:54 PM

Yeah it was just the concern over the black plates, no one wants to lose em.
Now you can let them lapse and still reuse them or buy an old car that lapsed years ago and keep its original plate.

No documentation, its in their latest Magazine but upon hearing it I questioned the local club captain. I'll be attempting this in a month or two with a car off the road since the 60's.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 03:17 PM

Now you can let them lapse and still reuse them or buy an old car that lapsed years ago and keep its original plate.

No documentation, its in their latest Magazine but upon hearing it I questioned the local club captain. I'll be attempting this in a month or two with a car off the road since the 60's.


This is why I queried, it is relevant to my interests.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 04:32 PM

If this is the case, then its probably only tidying up a legal loophole.
A mate of mine did a whole swag of legal research on number plates and the use of (he had a lawyer girl friend at the time).

One of the conclusions he came to, was that so long as the number plates were government issued, the same type of issued plate front and rear (black or white plate type), they consisted of a unique character string of up to 6 characters (ie they arent on any other currently registered car), there was no reason why you couldnt use any plates on any car.

So technically if you had an old set of plates on a car, there should be no reason that the car shouldnt be able to have been reregistered with them......probably its a case of nobody legally challenged it, and since the cost of new plates is FA, the cost of challenging it in court would probably outweigh the benefit.....unless you were an old car buff

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:04 PM

have just been on the phone directly to LTNZ,they claim that this isnt actually in effect yet,but it is the pipeline as a amendment to current legislation about numberplates.also found out that anyone can legally have a car in their name,even with no license,which contradicts what ive always been told that no license or learners means you cant have a car regoed in your name :s

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:49 PM

Ive always understood that any legal entity (person, business, trust etc) can have a car rego'd in their name.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:22 PM

An Inc society can, the person(s) acting on hehalf of said society just need to present their certificate of incorporation at the time of changing the ownership. (or registering it from scratch if thats the case.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:45 PM

excellent,learn something new on O.S everyday :D

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:32 PM

wickely shithot cool. my ol' Fc ute can keep the period plate when i fix it up and re-register it. minto.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:15 PM

I don't know if this has been posted before but its news to me

The rules regarding re-registering a car on the old black plates have changed and you can now keep your old plates.

http://www.vcc.org.n...umberplates.pdf

I was going to try doing this with my motorbike, but I have a bad feeling the silver on black plate got turfed the last time I moved flat :(

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:32 PM

Thats good news! Should be able to make a pretty good replica if the plates are rooted aswell. Will try for the RX I thinks.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:35 PM

Good news, i love having black plates, people seem to notice it alot more now too.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:01 PM

I don't know if this has been posted before but its news to me


There was man, but I just merged the two to make it easier. Cheers for the info.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 01:17 PM

I'll be milling out my second plate from some 3mm alloy soon as I have lost one. I wish I didn't have to go through the trouble though. I wish the govt would still allow original black plates to be manufactured for us old classic owners. Surely it wouldn't harm anyone. I'd happily pay more- lets say $100 for a set of new black plates. It costs about 40 quid in the UK to have brand new 'old' style black and silver plates custom stamped in your rego number.
I wonder where/who has the original stamping machine? The font is slightly smaller on white plates is it not?

No way I'm putting ugly white plates on my Viva! Bloody happy our truck has the old black plates too.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 01:24 PM

if you try and request a new one do you get new rego to?

if not just get fresh and spray black and file letters back to silver :P

I have the font file here somewhere for the old rego's too, i did a few keyrings in perspex with owners 'tags' (tbh its not hard to google, and 'find' the file iirc)

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 01:26 PM

The first gen white plates have a similar font but with different O and 0 the zero has a slash through it for differentiation. The second gen white pates (current ones) have a different font altogether and look stupid.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 01:28 PM

yea that did cross my mind hence offer of font file for milling :P

edit : http://en.wikipedia.... ... rnal_links

Licenz font link there :P

edit edit : damn that looks like the Newschool font :/

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 03:29 PM

I have one plate. I'll just trace it, make a stencil and mark alloy. Then mill by hand. Can go on back on car so the back isn't visible. Still stupid that we cant just get period plates made up. I'm sure they could organise it through VTNZ so its all legal and safe like eh.




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